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[tractrpl]

Think of it this way. If you hook up with a 40 year old asari, you're basically banging asari barely legal jailbait. When you grow old and die, you're still banging asari barely legal jailbait. It's like...perfect. But your kids will be asari. I foresee the entire human genome being wiped out in like 5 generations, assuming that the asari all want to mate with humans.

[tractrpl]

slyguy200 wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Think of it this way. If you hook up with a 40 year old asari, you're basically banging asari barely legal jailbait. When you grow old and die, you're still banging asari barely legal jailbait. It's like...perfect. But your kids will be asari. I foresee the entire human genome being wiped out in like 5 generations, assuming that the asari all want to mate with humans.

To many xeno's for that to work.

They'll get over it in a few generations...and then they're evolutionary toast.

[Zaxares]

I'm more curious about how exactly asari born on planets that are not Thessia manage to retain their biotics. All biotics derive their power from exposure to dust-form eezo when they were still developing in the womb, yes? (And if so, perhaps that's why we've never seen any salarian biotics; they hatch from eggs.) If ALL asari are biotics, that would mean that the mother would need to pass a certain amount of eezo from her own body to her unborn child during development in order for her offspring to also possess biotic powers.

This is fine if you're on Thessia, because just about everything there is also biotic and you probably consume small amounts of eezo with your food, but what about asari who are born and raised on colonies and never return to Thessia? Would that mean that subsequent generations of asari would possess weaker and weaker biotic abilities until it disappears entirely? Or do the asari take eezo "supplements" to counter this? If the latter method is true, then logically these supplements should also work for other races since they're taken to build up internal eezo reserves after birth.

[ChildOfEden]

From the Turian at the Eternity Bar: "Don't ruin asari for me."

[Dead_Meat357]

slyguy200 wrote...

Zaxares wrote...

I'm more curious about how exactly asari born on planets that are not Thessia manage to retain their biotics. All biotics derive their power from exposure to dust-form eezo when they were still developing in the womb, yes? (And if so, perhaps that's why we've never seen any salarian biotics; they hatch from eggs.) If ALL asari are biotics, that would mean that the mother would need to pass a certain amount of eezo from her own body to her unborn child during development in order for her offspring to also possess biotic powers.

This is fine if you're on Thessia, because just about everything there is also biotic and you probably consume small amounts of eezo with your food, but what about asari who are born and raised on colonies and never return to Thessia? Would that mean that subsequent generations of asari would possess weaker and weaker biotic abilities until it disappears entirely? Or do the asari take eezo "supplements" to counter this? If the latter method is true, then logically these supplements should also work for other races since they're taken to build up internal eezo reserves after birth.

Asari have it naturally, they don't need to be exposed in the womb, they may need exposure but not in the womb.

According to Javik, their biotics were a result of genetic engineering done by the Protheans. And with regard to biotics in most species, it seems to be triggered by eezo exposure. Something which Thessia has a lot of. Once someone is exposed or gains the ability via mutation, I believe it is then passed genetically. The conversation with Kaiden in Mass Effect seems to indicate this is how most species are thought to have gained biotics. In the case of the Asari, it's possible (and likely based on what Javik said) that their biotics were further enhanced or refined by the Prothean genetic engineering.

[Cyne]

Their tentacles are a bit weird.

[JackRipper10]

Squidwomen

[Dendio1]

Their planet fell to the reapers before anyone elses. They lost their bite

[nocbl2]

About memory theftception, as described in (?)Ascension it's like your identies crash together, and no real information can be discerned. Like the Prothean beacon vision, in a way.

[Cornughon]

If they're not like humans, then how come they wear (female) human armor (as in Mass Effect 1)...

[Rodia Driftwood]

 This is creepy, but why do I care?. I would prefer to see a Quarian. 

Now a Quarian without a suit.. I wonder how they look...

[0x30A88]

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

 This is creepy, but why do I care?. I would prefer to see a Quarian. 

Now a Quarian without a suit.. I wonder how they look...

And this thread is about how asari are creepy. What about humans wanting to put a quarian at severe risk to satisfy their curiosity about how they look without a suit?

[CARL_DF90]

I find the Asari too attractive to be creepy. Heh, nontheless you do make some good (and rather unsettling) points that actually could have some applicability to the ME 'verse OP. Whether or not Bioware would go anywhere with it (either in novels, comics, or games) is anyone's guess though. I just hope they're taking notes for future reference.

[0x30A88]

I think of them as a horrible concept -- long lived, attractive fan-service all-female race -- , but executed well. Some of them make their long life not seem like a blessing, and Bioware made them in a way that turians could relate to them even and ME2 did well in showing the race off from different angles, be it a selfish little ****, a pure-blood xenophobe and Aethyta being a positive surprice. I don't find them creepy though.

They're all latent biotics, as the planet is rich with Eezo and they have evolved to embrace the biotic stuff -- Proethean intervention, and their phyisioligy doesn't need them to be implanted like human biotics. Few do really train their biotic abilities, according to ME1 Liara-Kaidan elevator dialogue.

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[MrMcDoll]

 Dunno if anything of the sort has been mentioned, but maybe asari are really like doppelgangery - illithids:

http://e621.net/data....png?1272893401 



ps it's suggestive as all hell, but i don't think it's as NSFW as the camel-toe already found IN GAME!!

Modifié par MrMcDoll, 01 mai 2012 - 08:48 .

[CARL_DF90]

Heh. My place of work's server filter disagrees.  Hate it when that happens.

Modifié par CARL_DF90, 01 mai 2012 - 09:34 .

[Rodia Driftwood]

Gisle Aune wrote...

Rodia Driftwood wrote...

 This is creepy, but why do I care?. I would prefer to see a Quarian. 

Now a Quarian without a suit.. I wonder how they look...

And this thread is about how asari are creepy. What about humans wanting to put a quarian at severe risk to satisfy their curiosity about how they look without a suit?

Hey, buddy. I'm a Turian, alright?. A little curiosity wouldn't hurt anyone.

Besides, if you just throw 'em inside a Bubble, they wouldn't get hurt.

[JBONE27]

You aren't, but I'm not with you on it.

[Jayleia]

Overule wrote...

Fact: an Asari is capable of being sexually attracted to/involved with practically any sentient being in the known galaxy. Krogan, Volus, Quarian, Hanar, Elcor? I'm certain there are a few thousand little Asari babies who flirt like this:

Way I see it, that's being attracted to people you like, not being attracted to people like you.

Fact: an Asari has a lifespan that stretches over several centuries. If you take one message away from a romantic relationship between a Human and Asari, it's that you (the human) are entirely replaceable. To them 50 years of marriage is like a long weekend.

But either way, the time is gone, and they chose to spend it with you, and when you're in your declining years, they'll be there to help you.  I honestly couldn't imagine something more painful than watching a loved one die, and knowing that you will live with their loss for the next millennia

Fact: they can invade your thoughts. Worse still, they do it during sexual activity. Meaning that hooking up with an Asari, ANY Asari for any amount of time means giving up the sum total of your secrets to her. And while in ME this kind of bonding took place mostly between willing partners (Shep/Liara), Morinth stands as a horrifically suitable counterpoint. And think about this, what about Asari rapists? I don't mean Ardat Yakshi, I just mean the mundane kind that sexually assault people to feel powerful. They'd need to exist somewhere, an Asari's basic psychology isn't that different from that of a human being. And an Asari rapist doesn't *just* violate your body, she violates your most intimate memories and dreams.

This is true about the connection, however, we don't know how deep that connection goes, or how it works.  For all we know, attempting to force that on someone drives them into such a psychological turmoil that there is no connection possible

Fact: they're trying to edge you out of the evolutionary race. So it's been pointed out that Asari can *mate* with literally anything that moves, but no matter what these couplings always produce 100% Asari children. Making matters worse, it's been pointed out that any member of any species (male or female) has the potential to fall for an Asari. And the cherry on the creepy milkshake? *They actively prefer to seek out partners from other species*. Meaning that not only does every mixed Asari couple grow the blue babe population, but it actively shrinks the population of every other species in the galaxy by depriving them of future children.

This is also true, however, we know why they seek out other races, because two Asaris can equal Ardat Yakshi, Human/Asari, Hanar/Asari, Turian/Asari, Volus/Asari, Elcor/Asari CANNOT have an A-Y as an offspring.  Additionally, since the Asari have been involved in galactic civilization and haven't bred any civilizations into oblivion, and in fact, they seem to be content at their current growth rate (and no other races are complaining about being out-bred), I'm guessing that they don't often have children.

Additionally, I don't think there's anything against say...femShep and Liara getting together and then having a donor help Shep have a human baby.

Fact: they're all biotic, and get stronger over time. Meaning every single one of them could potentially tear apart whatever room they're standing in with a singularity.

So can Jack, and pre-ME3 she has clear...impulse control problems.  So?

Speculation: the "human" faces aren't real. This all goes back to one line from ME2 in which a Salarian bachelor party discusses how all the different species present insist that Asari look exactly like their own species. Now this hasn't ever been confirmed or denied, but I suspect that even the *physical* aspect of people's attraction to these freaky things is involuntary. Given the whole freaking invasive nervous system bit, the weirdness that it is Ardat Yakshi-dom and the abundance of bizarre biotic powers? I'm perfectly willing to believe that they don't even remotely resemble the tentacle haired waifs I've been looking at for three games. That image is just what a human being (Shepard) sees when they look at an Asari.

Now THAT is a neat catch.

[ToaOrka]

Hm...You've brought up some interesting facts, but I believe I have prepared a fitting rebuttal.

Samara has a nice rack.

[JKuz]

I believe that a lot of the differences in Asari society come from their exogamious nature, and the xenophillia that stems from that. While other species naturally fear the unknown and are (understandably) paranoid about the outside world; the Asari constantly seek out the unknown and show a distinct lack of paranoia about things as compared to the other species. I mean if experience teaches them that something is a net negative (Randomly activating mass relays) they won't do it, but in general I suspect that they have a greater youth mortality rate than other species (Wanderers and explorers get killed, young mercs do stupid things in combat others would naturally avoid, dancers wander off with sketchy Batarians, etc) Even with the reaper threat I expect that a lot of the denial comes from the simple fact that the Asari simply cannot image that the universe could be so cruel as to contain such a threat, whereas the Turian and Salarian denial comes from arrogance and faith in their own areas of expertise (Military and Intelligence respectively)

To answer the OP, I occasionally find the Asari creepy due to the lack of ears... It takes me several hours or days to unsee it, and in the meantime I am constantly distracted while talking to Asari ingame

[Dead_Meat357]

Jayleia wrote...

This is also true, however, we know why they seek out other races, because two Asaris can equal Ardat Yakshi, Human/Asari, Hanar/Asari, Turian/Asari, Volus/Asari, Elcor/Asari CANNOT have an A-Y as an offspring.  Additionally, since the Asari have been involved in galactic civilization and haven't bred any civilizations into oblivion, and in fact, they seem to be content at their current growth rate (and no other races are complaining about being out-bred), I'm guessing that they don't often have children.

You missed a key point from Mass Effect. According to Liara, the Asari tap into the genetic memory of a species and pass those traits onto their daughters. This is further evidenced by Matriarch Atheyta, who seems surprised that Liara has no desire to head but anything. Her attitude is also clearly "Krogan like" indicating that genetic dispositions and behavioral traits which are genetic rather than learned do indeed get passed on. It is this diversity that is the primary driving factor behind the Asari mating with other species.

Samara conjectures that fear of creating Ardat-Yakshi is part of that stigma behind the dislike of pure bloods, but she seems unclear as to whether or not that's the case. And their rarity is such that I don't think worrying about them makes much sense. No doubt fear of such people would get blown out of proportion, but there just aren't enough of them for most people to worry about that. Samara only knew of 3, and all of them were her daughters.

Modifié par Dead_Meat357, 01 mai 2012 - 02:09 .