I don't find them creepy, I find them lazy and stupid.
I Cannot be Alone in Finding the Asari Creepy...
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#27
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:14
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I now hate the krogan for saving them from the rachni
#28
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:17
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Eh, considering their relatively low galactic population in comparison to even humanity i wouldn't worry too much about it, also shepard seemed to be pretty good at thinning their populations out by ruining the ones that join merc groups...
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:20
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Overule wrote...
Capone666 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 hinted at the fact Asari trick the mind of other species. Vid can be seen here.
Mentioned in original post, but thanks for the link.
Damn me only reading healines apologies
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:25
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Nah. In themselves, most asari simply want to live a good life. They have 'sex' as a way of greater intimacy with their partners, and are essentially biotics given form. Ardat Yakshi are the dark side of their race, yet I actually think that otherwise, any 'rapes' are very few. It's not about power and dominance, but about serenity and joy (again, except for the Ardat Yakshi), unlike humanity, which has a lot of rapists runnin around (Hide yo kids hide yo wife!).
They may have several main partners over their lives, but they also clearly cherish each one. It's seen as a grand journey, but yes, those who partner with salarians know how short it will be, while those who partner with krogan do so knowing that (unless things go sour) its truly 'long-term', and with human/turian, it is in the middle (a good jaunt, but it won't last forever. Liara expresses this concern.). Nothing malicious involved, and they feel romance and compassion as part of their racial character.
The 'threat' that the asari pose does not exist with the general population; its more the fact that they play the 'long game'. In fact, an asari as the Shadow Broker is, despite the seeming info leaks lately (lol, it is a Reaper War after all, I can forgive Liara), means that this power will be exercised much more smartly than in the more blunt hands of a yahg.
I have little doubt that their Matriarchal circles (outside of a certain Liara's father) actually believe that if they plan far enough ahead, they can in fact take even more Citadel power for their own. In the meantime, they 'reward' the turians and salarians with places on the council, but again in the long run, they hold the cards to power. In reality, this isn't true, and the galaxy can be more brutal than they know (remember that the asari are the perfect example of a 'Reaper directed' race, finding the Citadel first and most gladly using its tech line), leading to Thessia's invasion.
So are they fools? Nah. Not really.
Are they geniuses? Nope, too naive about the true nature of the galaxy.
Are they saints? Hell no. Many can be brutal killers, but as a culture they embrace peace as their goal.
Are they creepy devils? Not at all. They are in touch with the wonder of the universe (just not its real danger), and aspire to help others to a greater level..just with Asari at the top. Think Prothian, BUT not running the galaxy through empire, but instead democratic concensus.
It's better to think of their eyes as expressing the empty void of the galaxy - however, when you meld, you see that there is a lot more in there. Stars, planets, suns, and many many people. This 'blackness' is actually their hope - where they see a greater design to everything. This is what ezzo tech offers, yet what the Reapers restrain us with. Potentially, once the galaxy escapes their guided path, ezzo will show greater promise at fulfilling the vision that the asari see.
They may have several main partners over their lives, but they also clearly cherish each one. It's seen as a grand journey, but yes, those who partner with salarians know how short it will be, while those who partner with krogan do so knowing that (unless things go sour) its truly 'long-term', and with human/turian, it is in the middle (a good jaunt, but it won't last forever. Liara expresses this concern.). Nothing malicious involved, and they feel romance and compassion as part of their racial character.
The 'threat' that the asari pose does not exist with the general population; its more the fact that they play the 'long game'. In fact, an asari as the Shadow Broker is, despite the seeming info leaks lately (lol, it is a Reaper War after all, I can forgive Liara), means that this power will be exercised much more smartly than in the more blunt hands of a yahg.
I have little doubt that their Matriarchal circles (outside of a certain Liara's father) actually believe that if they plan far enough ahead, they can in fact take even more Citadel power for their own. In the meantime, they 'reward' the turians and salarians with places on the council, but again in the long run, they hold the cards to power. In reality, this isn't true, and the galaxy can be more brutal than they know (remember that the asari are the perfect example of a 'Reaper directed' race, finding the Citadel first and most gladly using its tech line), leading to Thessia's invasion.
So are they fools? Nah. Not really.
Are they geniuses? Nope, too naive about the true nature of the galaxy.
Are they saints? Hell no. Many can be brutal killers, but as a culture they embrace peace as their goal.
Are they creepy devils? Not at all. They are in touch with the wonder of the universe (just not its real danger), and aspire to help others to a greater level..just with Asari at the top. Think Prothian, BUT not running the galaxy through empire, but instead democratic concensus.
It's better to think of their eyes as expressing the empty void of the galaxy - however, when you meld, you see that there is a lot more in there. Stars, planets, suns, and many many people. This 'blackness' is actually their hope - where they see a greater design to everything. This is what ezzo tech offers, yet what the Reapers restrain us with. Potentially, once the galaxy escapes their guided path, ezzo will show greater promise at fulfilling the vision that the asari see.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:28
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Am I the only one that finds Banshee's attractive
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:30
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Iron Spetsnaz wrote...
Am I the only one that finds Banshee's attractive
Yes
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:30
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Eh, considering their relatively low galactic population in comparison to even humanity i wouldn't worry too much about it, also shepard seemed to be pretty good at thinning their populations out by ruining the ones that join merc groups...
Yes.
Biologically, they could just overrun the friggin galaxy.
But they're not krogan. I'm sure 99% of them were happy with having Thessia etc, and a top seat on the Council.
So in reply to the 'lazy and stupid' remark above, I partially agree. When some people work so hard for peace, true threats do not enter their consciousness, allowing them to stay in ignorance. This is how the asari treated the geth, rachni, krogan, and Reaper threats - by tossing others out at them. This doesn't mean asari don't participate in these fights, but rather that culturally and politically, they seem to believe that others are more 'suited for those tasks'.
We see people like this in our own lives. Just as we see people of the more combative and honor-based type, like Turians, or reactionary and paranoid like the Quarian, or brutal and war-mongering like the Krogan.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:35
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Overule wrote...
And a race of benevolent universally hot waifish bisexuals that live a thousand years a piece and wanna have sex with *EVERYONE*? That most definitely sounds suspect to me. Oh, and their version of sexual intercourse involves violating literally the only entirely private refuge a person has. The inside of their own head. And suspiciously they like to cast themselves as mediators, spies and diplomats regulating the balance of power in the galaxy...
Eh that is a pretty speciesist view of Asari you got there.
Nothing says they "want to have sex with everyone", that is just a stupid prejudice like the Jew's greed IRL - everyone knows it is not actually true.
Also, Asari sex only involves bonding if both partners want it. In fact, bonding with an unwilling partner is not even possible except for Ardat-Yakshi.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:44
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I'd say that this has little to do with mind control but rather that the asari physique incorporates a lot of subtle hints from other species - "coincidentally" things that the other species might find attractive. Like the turian commenting about her head fringes.Capone666 wrote...
Mass Effect 2 hinted at the fact Asari trick the mind of other species. Vid can be seen here.
I mean, let's look at it logically - there are countless videos, advertisements and posters of asari all over Citadel space. Potentially including Liara's photo in Shepard's cabin. If the asari would just mind-control other species, said pictures would look different as the effect can obviously only be generated when an asari is nearby and influencing your mind. In general, people would know due to the differences between a real life encounter and just looking at them on a vidscreen.
This is not to say that individual dancers might not actively increase her attraction, though - think of it as mental pheromones.
As for the population ratios - keep in mind that asari get about 1.000 years old. They don't even consider getting kids before turning 100 (in fact, don't they usually start families only in their Matron stage?). A human usually does this between 20-40, and the salarians start even earlier. Might keep things in check - basically, whilst the asari can breed with everyone, they seem to be those who breed the fewest/slowest.
Otherwise, it's an interesting thought about how their evolution ties in with expanding. Like a peaceful conquest. Genocide without deaths, simply "ursurping" the other races and swallowing their space via mating and replacement.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:45
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The population of this planet is already growing at an alarming rate.
Fixing that by hooking dudes up with eternaly beutiful women is a hell of a lot better than forbidding certain categories of people from having offspring.
The mind-reading thing would feel pretty weird, but if she'd still want to be with me after that: after knowing exactly who I am, what I've done and what I want to do, I would be able to relax and be happy.
And what guy/girl doesen't want to be with a chick who'll never age or put on any weight?
Fixing that by hooking dudes up with eternaly beutiful women is a hell of a lot better than forbidding certain categories of people from having offspring.
The mind-reading thing would feel pretty weird, but if she'd still want to be with me after that: after knowing exactly who I am, what I've done and what I want to do, I would be able to relax and be happy.
And what guy/girl doesen't want to be with a chick who'll never age or put on any weight?
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:49
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Tirigon wrote...
Also, Asari sex only involves bonding if both partners want it. In fact, bonding with an unwilling partner is not even possible except for Ardat-Yakshi.
Asari can take memories by force. Benezia forcibly melded with the Rachni queen to exact the location of the Mu Relay.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:52
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Going to go ahead and guess "a lot."Hogge87 wrote...
And what girl doesen't want to be with a chick who'll never age or put on any weight?
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:53
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Random Jerkface wrote...
Going to go ahead and guess "a lot."Hogge87 wrote...
And what girl doesen't want to be with a chick who'll never age or put on any weight?
You have a pretty weird view of people.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 05:55
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erilben wrote...
Tirigon wrote...
Also, Asari sex only involves bonding if both partners want it. In fact, bonding with an unwilling partner is not even possible except for Ardat-Yakshi.
Asari can take memories by force. Benezia forcibly melded with the Rachni queen to exact the location of the Mu Relay.
Rachni are special because they have such a strong affinity for messing with minds themselves.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 06:10
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Tirigon wrote...
Rachni are special because they have such a strong affinity for messing with minds themselves.
So Rachni having similar capabilities makes them *more* susceptible to having their heads tampered with with by Asari? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You'd think the opposite.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 06:14
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Hogge87 wrote...
And what guy/girl doesen't want to be with a chick who'll never age or put on any weight?
This woman for sure. I can appreciate a beautiful woman as easily as anyone, but when it comes to being with someone? Male > female 99.9% of the time. Love a broad (boobless) chest and deep voice and I'm not sorry about it.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 06:14
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Asari are meant to be some fat nerd's wet dream
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 06:17
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I don't find them themselves creepy, just the way they're portrayed and presented as every guy's wet dream.
I don't get it, what's so attractive about them? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I don't see anything attractive in them.
I don't get it, what's so attractive about them? Maybe it's because I'm female, but I don't see anything attractive in them.
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Posté 01 avril 2012 - 06:17
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And that is why we kill them all. Or I would if it was real.
They're all in good physical shape by human standards, they are slightly exotic and swing their arses on strip clubs. That and they can effortlessly mate with any race, and do so on a regular basis. That is their... attraction if you put it like that. I just want to kill it with fire.LadyofRivendell wrote...
I don't find them themselves creepy, just the way they're portrayed and presented as every guy's wet dream.
I
don't get it, what's so attractive about them? Maybe it's because I'm
female, but I don't see anything attractive in them.
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