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[Little Queen]

I dont have a problem with Asari, im just getting very tired of Liara and her thing for shep <.<

[Tirigon]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
In the discussion thread linked from the poll, there are Liaramancers who like the idea of her doing this, even if Shepard never showed any interest in her and romanced someone else.

I suppose having good taste in video game women does not automatically make you a person with a sensible stance on rape.

Personally, I think it would be an unforgivable violation, but given her moral character and persistent obsession with Shepard (whether the affections are returned or not), I just could not put it past her to do something like that without Shepard's knowledge or consent.

I dont think so. Liara has developed in a rather unsettling way from ME1 to ME3, but I dont think she'll get that creepy.

[Heather Cline]

I have no problem with Asari and I like Liara but that's just me.

[Priisus]

This is hilarious... and glad it's not an April Fool's day post. Asari are ok in my books but maybe tone down the Asari's sexiness shoved down in every species' face all the time in the game. It gets largely irritating when one doesn't find them attractive. That's why the only Asaris I like are Aethyta and Samara. But then again this is a video game largely catered to the male crowd anyway and having sexy female looking characters is a selling point.

I just don't like how Liara tries so hard to get Shepard's attention in ME1, if I read this post back in the day, it will make it her so much more creepier. I don't know, maybe guys like that kind of attention but she comes off as incredibly desperate and creepy to me.

[nukular power]

Speculation: the "human" faces aren't real. This all goes back to one line from ME2 in which a Salarian bachelor party discusses how all the different species present insist that Asari look exactly like their own species. Now this hasn't ever been confirmed or denied, but I suspect that even the *physical* aspect of people's attraction to these freaky things is involuntary. Given the whole freaking invasive nervous system bit, the weirdness that it is Ardat Yakshi-dom and the abundance of bizarre biotic powers? I'm perfectly willing to believe that they don't even remotely resemble the tentacle haired waifs I've been looking at for three games. That image is just what a human being (Shepard) sees when they look at an Asari.

I never thought about it, but you're right.   Now I am going to be creeped out by every Asari I see.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

They're mostly just creepy in a "designed for and by neckbeards" sort of way.

[thehomeworld]

Well I always figured they were genetically engineered to be as they are by the reapers the last time they rolled through. To me they've just got too much going on to be natural. I thought the reapers experimented on them and if they had males when the reapers rolled through they eradicated them and genetically tailored a species that would later be used as their sleeper agents. The way we know them today is:

The need to mate with other species

If they choose Asari partners the chances of getting a yakshi are very high

Most species aren't set up to meld ie the partner species gets nothing out of the meld

I think they actually don't even need to have physical contact Athena made a daughter w/o anyone she said she was both the father and mother and that it didn't turn out well. The only thing required to create a baby is the partner's mind nothing else.

Athena makes me think that either they're physically they've got sperm and eggs inside them and once they get their partners DNA they can fill in the DNA on the appropriate side ie mate with male encode sperm cells only start combo process = pregnancy. I know there is one species here on earth only that can do that when a male isn't present. We've got other species like alligators that can change their sex once in their lifetime if no male is available.

I'm also wondering if the Asari can't just store the DNA of the mate they wish and que it up later in life to me this seems what Liara is doing to shep in 3 she wanted to get the most up to date data from him before he would leave and potentially die. She could down the line when she's ready for kids just decide to remember his code and create the child w/o him.

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You also bring up a good point on crimes w/ Asari sure its never covered but they aren't all peace loving hippies there either. An Asari rapist wouldn't even need to physically touch anyone they just corner them and force a meld. Force melds can be done Benezia did it to the rachni she essentially mindraped the rachni! It seems to Asari they get more enjoyment out of the meld then physical contact they only give the contact because their partner requires it in other words the Asari is only being nice to the partner.

We know shep gets little if anything out of the meld he is always confused after its over on in the case of mornith when it was stopped mid meld he was out of it. Shep isn't built for that so far the only other creatures who are are the rachni.

Their lifespan had to be engineered they live the longest of every species.

I think the guys in afterlife were actually looking at a reaper sleeper agent and she (unconsciously) was effecting their mental state she was in a way indoctrinating them. You can see the same type of strange behavior around the consort everyone is in a trance even her working girls one claims she went to Earth for a while then felt called to come back and the consort herself leads into the whole indoctrinating thing when she says she's all things to all people and they don't know what they need or want until they meet her. I think she is a sleeper agent and knows it unlike the dancing girl.

[thehomeworld]

Overule wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Rachni are special because they have such a strong affinity for messing with minds themselves.

So Rachni having similar capabilities makes them *more* susceptible to having their heads tampered with with by Asari? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You'd think the opposite.

Benezia also said it wasn't easy meaning the rachni mentally fought her and lost. The only difference between an Asari forcing another species and forcing a rachni is a rachni has a fighting chance other species can't even give much of a mental whimper to block such an attack.

[thehomeworld]

kalle90 wrote...

Pallando wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

I'm hoping that was a joke, because biology does not work that way.

How does instant synthesis work in biology?

Catalyst kid screwed the universe over. A kid with too much power. He can make magic happen.

Enchantment !

OMG! Would be priceless if they just patched the ending so starchild turned into Sandal. That would make so much more sense than the current ending.

"You wanted clarification? There's your clarification. Sandal did some experiments and turned into a ghost boy in some galaxy far far away, accidentally breaking the galaxy"

Would have been great april fools joke for Bioware to make.

Wow! I would rather have that kid fallowing shep around screaming, ' Enchantment!" rather then telling shep what to do or how to do it

[Doctor Solus]

I always found their lifespans to be the most creepy.. Sort of invalidates everyone else when you reach a thousand years! 2-300 years would be much more reasonable!

[Sailears]

thehomeworld wrote...

Well I always figured they were genetically engineered to be as they are by the reapers the last time they rolled through. To me they've just got too much going on to be natural. I thought the reapers experimented on them and if they had males when the reapers rolled through they eradicated them and genetically tailored a species that would later be used as their sleeper agents. The way we know them today is:

The need to mate with other species

If they choose Asari partners the chances of getting a yakshi are very high

Most species aren't set up to meld ie the partner species gets nothing out of the meld

I think they actually don't even need to have physical contact Athena made a daughter w/o anyone she said she was both the father and mother and that it didn't turn out well. The only thing required to create a baby is the partner's mind nothing else.

Athena makes me think that either they're physically they've got sperm and eggs inside them and once they get their partners DNA they can fill in the DNA on the appropriate side ie mate with male encode sperm cells only start combo process = pregnancy. I know there is one species here on earth only that can do that when a male isn't present. We've got other species like alligators that can change their sex once in their lifetime if no male is available.

I'm also wondering if the Asari can't just store the DNA of the mate they wish and que it up later in life to me this seems what Liara is doing to shep in 3 she wanted to get the most up to date data from him before he would leave and potentially die. She could down the line when she's ready for kids just decide to remember his code and create the child w/o him.

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You also bring up a good point on crimes w/ Asari sure its never covered but they aren't all peace loving hippies there either. An Asari rapist wouldn't even need to physically touch anyone they just corner them and force a meld. Force melds can be done Benezia did it to the rachni she essentially mindraped the rachni! It seems to Asari they get more enjoyment out of the meld then physical contact they only give the contact because their partner requires it in other words the Asari is only being nice to the partner.

We know shep gets little if anything out of the meld he is always confused after its over on in the case of mornith when it was stopped mid meld he was out of it. Shep isn't built for that so far the only other creatures who are are the rachni.

Their lifespan had to be engineered they live the longest of every species.

I think the guys in afterlife were actually looking at a reaper sleeper agent and she (unconsciously) was effecting their mental state she was in a way indoctrinating them. You can see the same type of strange behavior around the consort everyone is in a trance even her working girls one claims she went to Earth for a while then felt called to come back and the consort herself leads into the whole indoctrinating thing when she says she's all things to all people and they don't know what they need or want until they meet her. I think she is a sleeper agent and knows it unlike the dancing girl.

Wow. I'm not one for conspiracy theories and such, but that's actually a pretty cool idea.

[Han Shot First]

Capone666 wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hinted at the fact Asari trick the mind of other species. Vid can be seen here.

It was a funny dialogue exchange, but it often gets mistakenly put forward as canon by the fanbase when it is clearly not intended to be. Here is why the mental shapeshifting is not canon:

1. The extranet and movies: If the Asari were pulling some sort of mental shapeshift that influence people in their presence to see them in a form that was attractive, their true form would be revealed in movies and photographs. It wouldn't work on people who were not actually in the presence of that Asari. When Shepard views the Shadowbroker vid files, Asari characters like Aria look no different than they do in person.

2. Chora's Den has a sign depicting an Asari dancer. The dancer in the sign looks exactly how Shepard sees them. If the Asari were pulling some sort of mental shape shift, the person creating the sign would have made it in the form that he or she saw them. That is all well and good if the sign's creator was human (and thus Shepard seeing a familiar form), but Turians, Drell, Batarians ect wouldn't recognize it.

3. Asari wall paintings on Thessia:  Since these were ancient paintings by a relatively primitive people that had not yet encounted aliens (beyond a few Protheans), they were depicting themselves as they saw themselves. Their forms are identical to how Shepard sees them.


In short, the bachelor party dialogue isn't intended to be anything more than humorous banter between a group of people at a bachelor party.

[Arokel]

"Asari-Vorcha offspring are allergic to to dairy... doo doo di dah di da doo."

[greggm2000]

Doctor Solus wrote...

I always found their lifespans to be the most creepy.. Sort of invalidates everyone else when you reach a thousand years! 2-300 years would be much more reasonable!

If anything I kindof think the opposite. One would think by the time of the events in the ME universe that humans would have an indefinitely long lifespan (along with every other advanced species including the Asari)... after all, we're not that far away from that in RL...  though in truth I can see why it's not so in ME. So you can see why the Asari lifespan doesn't bother me, heh!

[chengda85]

Overule wrote...


Speculation: the "human" faces aren't real. This all goes back to one line from ME2 in which a Salarian bachelor party discusses how all the different species present insist that Asari look exactly like their own species. Now this hasn't ever been confirmed or denied, but I suspect that even the *physical* aspect of people's attraction to these freaky things is involuntary. Given the whole freaking invasive nervous system bit, the weirdness that it is Ardat Yakshi-dom and the abundance of bizarre biotic powers? I'm perfectly willing to believe that they don't even remotely resemble the tentacle haired waifs I've been looking at for three games. That image is just what a human being (Shepard) sees when they look at an Asari.

simple solution to this is to take a picture of an asari and see how the picture turns out, the picture doesnt have biotic powers...

[Han Shot First]

Humans do have a much longer lifespan in the Mass Effect universe, though it isn't anywhere near as long as the Asari. IIRC it is stated that with the advancements in medical technology and gene therapy that humans can live to around 150 or so.

quote]chengda85 wrote...

Overule wrote...


Speculation: the "human" faces aren't real. This all goes back to one line from ME2 in which a Salarian bachelor party discusses how all the different species present insist that Asari look exactly like their own species. Now this hasn't ever been confirmed or denied, but I suspect that even the *physical* aspect of people's attraction to these freaky things is involuntary. Given the whole freaking invasive nervous system bit, the weirdness that it is Ardat Yakshi-dom and the abundance of bizarre biotic powers? I'm perfectly willing to believe that they don't even remotely resemble the tentacle haired waifs I've been looking at for three games. That image is just what a human being (Shepard) sees when they look at an Asari.

simple solution to this is to take a picture of an asari and see how the picture turns out, the picture doesnt have biotic powers...

If Shepard romanced Liara in ME1 he will have a photograph of her on his desk, and she looks identical to how she looked in Mass Effect 1. Also, all the Asari still look like Asari in the shadow broker vids.

The bachelor party dialogue is one of those things that some fans blow out of proportion. It was just in there for laughs and isn't intended to be the equivalent of a codex entry on Asari biology.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 02 avril 2012 - 06:00 .

[Amberion]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The Asari adhere to the general male fantasy of aliens.

They look human, but have alien characteristics such as the fringe and colorful skin tones.

They are all female, meaning they will seek male companionship from other species.


Aesthetics aside, the Asari government brought their race's doom on themselves. They sat on a cache of Prothean information for thousands of years that not only held proof of the Reaper threat, but contained the information for how to defeat them. Just so they could stay on top in the galaxy and lord their superiority over everyone.

Not to mention the fact that they were instrumental in passing the law which outlaws concealing prothean technology, so they did that while at the same time concealing prothean technology...

[Shepard VI]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

Am I the only one that finds Banshee's attractive

They have... interesting genitalia .

[Sharn01]

Han Shot First wrote...

Humans do have a much longer lifespan in the Mass Effect universe, though it isn't anywhere near as long as the Asari. IIRC it is stated that with the advancements in medical technology and gene therapy that humans can live to around 150 or so.

quote]chengda85 wrote...

Overule wrote...


Speculation: the "human" faces aren't real. This all goes back to one line from ME2 in which a Salarian bachelor party discusses how all the different species present insist that Asari look exactly like their own species. Now this hasn't ever been confirmed or denied, but I suspect that even the *physical* aspect of people's attraction to these freaky things is involuntary. Given the whole freaking invasive nervous system bit, the weirdness that it is Ardat Yakshi-dom and the abundance of bizarre biotic powers? I'm perfectly willing to believe that they don't even remotely resemble the tentacle haired waifs I've been looking at for three games. That image is just what a human being (Shepard) sees when they look at an Asari.

simple solution to this is to take a picture of an asari and see how the picture turns out, the picture doesnt have biotic powers...

If Shepard romanced Liara in ME1 he will have a photograph of her on his desk, and she looks identical to how she looked in Mass Effect 1. Also, all the Asari still look like Asari in the shadow broker vids.

The bachelor party dialogue is one of those things that some fans blow out of proportion. It was just in there for laughs and isn't intended to be the equivalent of a codex entry on Asari biology.

Its been gone over in depth many times and people still dont get it.  I really think people who dont like asari are just looking for any excuse they can find to throw mud at them, its the only explanation other then stupidity.

Modifié par Sharn01, 02 avril 2012 - 06:18 .

[mupp3tz]

I think you're looking too much into the bachelor party conversation. What they probably meant was that all species are attracted to the asari because they find traits similar to themselves in the physical appearance of asari -- i.e. the human sees body anatomy, turian sees the head fringe, etc.

It's like two guys talking about how a girl is attractive and one says that it's because of her smile and the other one thinks it's because of dat ass. You get my point.

[Suspire]

My reasons for not liking them are more along the lines of things that make me look like a raging feminist. I just pretend it doesn't bother me, but I find the concept of the species slightly infuriating.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Suspire wrote...

My reasons for not liking them are more along the lines of things that make me look like a raging feminist. I just pretend it doesn't bother me, but I find the concept of the species slightly infuriating.

You don't exactly have to be a feminist to find the whole concept ridiculous.

[corporal doody]

asari creepy? nope

[Alyka]

Meh.
I find Liara endearing.And Samara is cool.She seems to be pretty even (disciplined), given that she's a justicar.

As a straight woman,I,myself, don't mind the way they look.At least they don't have gigantic artificial looking breasts.And they're fully clothed for the most part (with the exception of the dancers in the clubs, but what do you expect?).
Of course I don't like when women are depicted as being highly sexualised all the time in a video game.But I don't think the asari are portrayed that way all the time.Unlike Miranda.Which I can understand because she's genetically altered/engineered.But lol  at the "Dat @ss" camera shots.But I digress...

The only asari that creep me out are the Ardat-Yakshi and the Banshee's.
Hey wait a second... that sounds like a female band.

Ardat-Yakshi and the Banshee's LIVE in concert! XD

[Alyka]

IndoctrinatedSpectre wrote...

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

Am I the only one that finds Banshee's attractive

They have... interesting genitalia .