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#151
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Getorex wrote...

The Asari are CLEARLY the spawn of Cthulhu (tentacle heads and all). Of COURSE they mess with your mind. That's what Cthulhu spawn does. It's all for Cthulhu.


I'd add something here, but I don't want to drive the BSN insane or anything.

But, short story, no the asari aren't creepy, they regulate themselves rather well, I should say. As with every species out there, you get the outliers. Judging the whole by an individual(or a few) is a poor way of representing them.

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Bachelor party banter aside, they're still plenty freaky. Their basic nature presents a threat to the diversity of galactic life, and they've demonstrated a willingness to exploit advantages when they have them... mark my words, they'll come for you some day in the night... to bang you and bear children :P

Modifié par Overule, 02 avril 2012 - 01:38 .


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Suspire wrote...

My reasons for not liking them are more along the lines of things that make me look like a raging feminist. I just pretend it doesn't bother me, but I find the concept of the species slightly infuriating.


WHAT?!

Asari are a feminist dream come true.

In fact that is the one thing I dislike about them....

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Miranda and ME3 Ashley are arguably more sexualized than the Asari, and the Asari are presented as the most enlightened race in the galaxy. I don't see any reason for feminists to hate them.

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Well I always figured they were genetically engineered to be as they are by the reapers the last time they rolled through. To me they've just got too much going on to be natural. I thought the reapers experimented on them and if they had males when the reapers rolled through they eradicated them and genetically tailored a species that would later be used as their sleeper agents. The way we know them today is:

The need to mate with other species

If they choose Asari partners the chances of getting a yakshi are very high

Most species aren't set up to meld ie the partner species gets nothing out of the meld

I think they actually don't even need to have physical contact Athena made a daughter w/o anyone she said she was both the father and mother and that it didn't turn out well. The only thing required to create a baby is the partner's mind nothing else.

Athena makes me think that either they're physically they've got sperm and eggs inside them and once they get their partners DNA they can fill in the DNA on the appropriate side ie mate with male encode sperm cells only start combo process = pregnancy. I know there is one species here on earth only that can do that when a male isn't present. We've got other species like alligators that can change their sex once in their lifetime if no male is available.

I'm also wondering if the Asari can't just store the DNA of the mate they wish and que it up later in life to me this seems what Liara is doing to shep in 3 she wanted to get the most up to date data from him before he would leave and potentially die. She could down the line when she's ready for kids just decide to remember his code and create the child w/o him.

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You also bring up a good point on crimes w/ Asari sure its never covered but they aren't all peace loving hippies there either. An Asari rapist wouldn't even need to physically touch anyone they just corner them and force a meld. Force melds can be done Benezia did it to the rachni she essentially mindraped the rachni! It seems to Asari they get more enjoyment out of the meld then physical contact they only give the contact because their partner requires it in other words the Asari is only being nice to the partner.

We know shep gets little if anything out of the meld he is always confused after its over on in the case of mornith when it was stopped mid meld he was out of it. Shep isn't built for that so far the only other creatures who are are the rachni.

Their lifespan had to be engineered they live the longest of every species.

I think the guys in afterlife were actually looking at a reaper sleeper agent and she (unconsciously) was effecting their mental state she was in a way indoctrinating them. You can see the same type of strange behavior around the consort everyone is in a trance even her working girls one claims she went to Earth for a while then felt called to come back and the consort herself leads into the whole indoctrinating thing when she says she's all things to all people and they don't know what they need or want until they meet her. I think she is a sleeper agent and knows it unlike the dancing girl.


ugh.. that is unbelievable creepy
also remember how fast Morinth hypnotized shepard   :crying:asari rapists? op, stop giving me nightmares

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I can't comprehend how some could be attracted to a tentacle head.

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Overule wrote...

Bachelor party banter aside, they're still plenty freaky. Their basic nature presents a threat to the diversity of galactic life, and they've demonstrated a willingness to exploit advantages when they have them... mark my words, they'll come for you some day in the night... to bang you and bear children :P


A threat to the diversity of galactic life how? If anything, it's spreading a species' genes (or rather, elements of them if not literally the genes themselves), spreading them wider than they can within their own species. As well, since an Asari takes the child-bearing role with a non-Asari partner, the non-Asari isn't being prevented from having kids with another non-Asari.

Sure, the non-Asari who actually forms a permanent bonding (ie: marriage) with an Asari likely isn't going to sire any more of his/her species, but then, people choose not to have children for all sorts of reasons, this would just be one more reason among many... and I can't see huge numbers of Humans marrying Asari, what with how narrow most peoples' preferences are.

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kookie28 wrote...

I can't comprehend how some could be attracted to a tentacle head.


It's a "touch of the exotic" thing, I think... but I don't see it being the main draw of Asari.. at least, it isn't for me.

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synsam wrote...

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Am I the only one that finds Banshee's attractive
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Yes

Banshee for squadmate and LI.

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[quote]Well I always figured they were genetically engineered to be as they are by the reapers the last time they rolled through. To me they've just got too much going on to be natural. I thought the reapers experimented on them and if they had males when the reapers rolled through they eradicated them and genetically tailored a species that would later be used as their sleeper agents.[/quote]
More likely the Protheans, the Reapers wouldn't have the motivation; brute force seems to be their thing.

[quote]The way we know them today is: The need to mate with other species[/quote]
That's a cultural thing though, not a biological one... we have proof of that in Liara herself, who turned out very well!

[quote]If they choose Asari partners the chances of getting a yakshi are very high[/quote]
If I remember right, the chance of producing Ardat-Yakshi when two Asari produce offspring is only around 1%.
Ardat-Yakshi come in various forms, from causing no problems (but no mental link) with their partner, to the far end of the scale (ie: Morinth). Only the worst cases are a danger to others and have to live isolated. I think it likely that that is an exceedingly small %, given that the monastery serves the entire Asari population.

[quote]Most species aren't set up to meld ie the partner species gets nothing out of the meld.[/quote]
The partner species gets a non-zero component of their genes spread (if not the whole thing) with an extremely high probability of their children surviving and producing progeny over (likely) multiples of the non-Asari species' lifespan. The individual gets... the sort of mental union, the idea of which probably either really attracts you or really repels you. Net win I think.

[quote]I think they actually don't even need to have physical contact Athena made a daughter w/o anyone she said she was both the father and mother and that it didn't turn out well. The only thing required to create a baby is the partner's mind nothing else. [/quote]
I'd expect it to be very close proximity nontheless. I'm not certain that the mind is sufficient (but I haven't checked the codex).. I do recall Liara saying that in ME1, but also remember that given her age, non-experience, interests, and personality, she'd hardly be an expert on such things.

[quote]I'm also wondering if the Asari can't just store the DNA of the mate they wish and que it up later in life to me this seems what Liara is doing to shep in 3 she wanted to get the most up to date data from him before he would leave and potentially die. She could down the line when she's ready for kids just decide to remember his code and create the child w/o him. [/quote]
Maybe. We just don't know. And even if so, it could be that Liara and Shep mutually agreed to it, last time they made love, off-camera... I could easily see it, since both have shown that planning and foresight is something they both do well.

[quote]You also bring up a good point on crimes w/ Asari sure its never covered but they aren't all peace loving hippies there either. [/quote]
Indeed... Aria being a good example.

[quote]An Asari rapist wouldn't even need to physically touch anyone they just corner them and force a meld.[/quote]
I'm not sure that's true. Even Morinth had to seduce her victims and get them to voluntarily open up mentally to her.. even so, that sort of predator would be a frightening thing. Of course, evil is hardly unique to Asari.

[quote]Force melds can be done Benezia did it to the rachni she essentially mindraped the rachni![/quote]
As has been explored elsewhere, the Rachni, being telepathic themselves, may be a special case. We don't know. We also don't know if the indoctrinated Benezia had been altered by Reaper tech to make it possible.

[quote]It seems to Asari they get more enjoyment out of the meld then physical contact they only give the contact because their partner requires it in other words the Asari is only being nice to the partner. [/quote]
Maybe.. but that's not the reading I get when Liara describes it in ME1.

[quote]We know shep gets little if anything out of the meld he is always confused after its over[/quote]
We know Shep gets a lot out of it.. she certainly did in ME1. I think it's just such an overpowering experience that it takes a little while to recover from. Makes sense to me, given what happens.

[quote]Their lifespan had to be engineered they live the longest of every species. [/quote]
Maybe, maybe not.. the Krogan have comparable lifespans. Even if they were, I don't see that as anything sinister. I'm sure in RL it will happen with Humans, and long before the time of ME.

[quote]You can see the same type of strange behavior around the consort everyone is in a trance even her working girls one claims she went to Earth for a while then felt called to come back and the consort herself leads into the whole indoctrinating thing when she says she's all things to all people and they don't know what they need or want until they meet her. I think she is a sleeper agent and knows it unlike the dancing girl. [/quote]
The very idea of "being called" is not a foreign one in RL, even if it's unusual. The idea of a consort in that form (albeit minus telepathy) is also not unheardof in RL.

All of this totally my opinion of course, others may disagree :)

Modifié par greggm2000, 02 avril 2012 - 07:06 .


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kookie28 wrote...

I can't comprehend how some could be attracted to a tentacle head.




Short answer:



Dat face...


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Dat body...


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Longer answer:


Characters like Liara, Samara, Shiala or Councillor Tevos have some of the most attractive faces in the game and modelesque figures to boot. That is enough for most people to overlook the more alien features like head tentacles.

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I would jump at it. Then again I'm all into interracial.

Ash, Miranda and the rest are just so boring. Out of top 10 females in ME all are Asari. Heck even Eve goes higher than most human females.

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kookie28 wrote...

I can't comprehend how some could be attracted to a tentacle head.

Han Shot First (he really did, by the way. Seriously George L, stop making Star Wars worse than it is anyways.....) makes a good point overall, but I would also like to add one important thing:

TENTACLE head.

TENTACLE.


I hope you get my point.:devil:

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I find Liara's obsession with Shepard rather creepy. If Cerberus hadn't wanted his body I think she'd have kept him in her apartment like Norman Bates' mother.

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Asari are hot period.

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Well maybe if they were prehensile, but they're not. Actually I don't even... how do their skulls work?

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fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Well maybe if they were prehensile, but they're not. Actually I don't even... how do their skulls work?


Maybe they're antennae (of sorts) for their mental abilities? It would make sense...

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Tentacle brains. I'm spending way too much time in this thread

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Stubble tentacles that grow into full Twi'lek tentacles, you know, in about 150 000 years.

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In what...a few thousand thousand years time? ME4 - Rise of the Asari? - The Rapists of DOOM

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Jayelle Janson wrote...

I find Liara's obsession with Shepard rather creepy. If Cerberus hadn't wanted his body I think she'd have kept him in her apartment like Norman Bates' mother.


Like Ashley's supposed racism or religious fanatacism, this is one of those aspects of a Mass Effect character that gets blown way out of proportion by some of the fanbase.

Liara was never obsessed with Shepard. Her efforts to recover Shepard's body were entirely motivated by preventing the Collectors from desecrating it, after being informed of the Shadow Broker's interest by Cerberus.

She was seeking his body to give him (or her) a decent burial, which is a fairly normal reaction to the death of a loved one or close friend, whose body has not been recovered. A real world equivalent would be the family and friends of serviceman who were listed as missing in action in WW2 or Korea, seeking to locate and return their loved ones remains to the United States or Britain.

The idea to resurrect Shepard came from Cerberus, and Liara was not brought into that plot until after she had set out to recover his remains. She also had reservations about the Lazarus Project, but was talked into it by Miranda.

Liara is basically the female Garrus. She's a character that is ultra loyal and one of Shepard's closest friends (if not romanced) regardless of whether or not the player likes the character.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Jayelle Janson wrote...

I find Liara's obsession with Shepard rather creepy. If Cerberus hadn't wanted his body I think she'd have kept him in her apartment like Norman Bates' mother.


Like Ashley's supposed racism or religious fanatacism, this is one of those aspects of a Mass Effect character that gets blown way out of proportion by some of the fanbase.

Liara was never obsessed with Shepard. Her efforts to recover Shepard's body were entirely motivated by preventing the Collectors from desecrating it, after being informed of the Shadow Broker's interest by Cerberus.

She was seeking his body to give him (or her) a decent burial, which is a fairly normal reaction to the death of a loved one or close friend, whose body has not been recovered. A real world equivalent would be the family and friends of serviceman who were listed as missing in action in WW2 or Korea, seeking to locate and return their loved ones remains to the United States or Britain.

The idea to resurrect Shepard came from Cerberus, and Liara was not brought into that plot until after she had set out to recover his remains. She also had reservations about the Lazarus Project, but was talked into it by Miranda.

Liara is basically the female Garrus. She's a character that is ultra loyal and one of Shepard's closest friends (if not romanced) regardless of whether or not the player likes the character.


Thanks for that explanation.  Not having read the ME comics it has always appeared to me that she was just a little too overly fond of Shepard.  Her devotion only really makes sense to me if she is romancing Shepard.

I also have a problem with Samara though, so maybe I'm just xenophobic when it comes to asari.

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Tirigon wrote...

Suspire wrote...

My reasons for not liking them are more along the lines of things that make me look like a raging feminist. I just pretend it doesn't bother me, but I find the concept of the species slightly infuriating.


WHAT?!

Asari are a feminist dream come true.

In fact that is the one thing I dislike about them....


WTF.  They're an alien race that looks exactly like perfect hot blue human women. How did that happen? Come on, blatant fan service for straight men. They have a freaking pole-dancing life stage. They have sex with anything. They are the galaxy strippers. Everyone wants to get in their pants. They make it so women on women isn't actually lesbian action because they're "mono-gendered". Come ON.

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kookie28 wrote...

I can't comprehend how some could be attracted to a tentacle head.


Wait till you get to the people who are attracted to raptor-bird dudes ;)

Modifié par Suspire, 02 avril 2012 - 08:50 .


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Suspire wrote...

WTF.  They're an alien race that looks exactly like perfect hot blue women. How did that happen? Come on, blatant fan service for straight men. They have a freaking pole-dancing life stage. They have sex with anything. They are the galaxy strippers. Everyone wants to get in their pants. They make it so women on women isn't actually lesbian action because they're "mono-gendered". Come ON.

I alwas lol at that last one because they think it's such a clever excuse. You raging feminist.

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They don't have sex with anything.
They can't have sex with Reapers. I think...