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[MrnDpty161]

Zeppex wrote...

Even though I ****ing hate the endings, seeing the game go down in price very fast or on sale very fast is not good. I can attribute alot of it to fan backlash cuz of the ending, but some reviews are idiotic. The less games BW sells, the less money EW will give them to makes games. Which would lead to ****tier games...

Why get mad - they made bookoo bucks already with their initial  1 million copies or so --- they made their cash, and your fogetting all that MP B.S.

They are not loosing money any time soon to prevent them from making more games. If that was the case, they need to re-look at their money managing skills and stop being so wasteful, but I don't think that is the case at all.

Their the ones that got theirs, the fans didn't.

[GBGriffin]

coolbeans wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

Zeppex wrote...

I got an email from Amazon today saying I would 20% of the game. The funny I bought the CE from them, you would think they would know that.

Not uncommon.  The idea is that if you liked the game, you're more likely to tell a friend, "Hey, ME3 is on sale."  Or buy it as a gift, or on another platform.

RI

Going totally off topic, but I recognise your avatar, I just can't place it, whats it from?

If you're talking about Raen's, I believe that's Merlin from Excalibur (1981)

[humes spork]

vivaladricas wrote...

Also Amazon US has it down to 50 bucks new.  I just cant feel bad for bioware, I mean the engineers and people like that sure.  But for the most part they brought it on themsleves, it was DIRT easy to avoid any of this.  

Keep in mind that while people are celebrating this kind of thing, it's also this kind of thing coupled with EA's very business strategies aforementioned celebrants call out that could, and at this point are likely, to cause this whole thing to colossally backfire in fans' faces. EA cuts its losses, cans or severely curbs future DLC and support, and prematurely closes doors and shuts the lights off on Mass Effect.

This is getting to the point "retakers" are jumping into the wood chipper nose-first to spite their face.

[Rafe34]

Fingertrip wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Wow, people are .... so blind and really immature about this whole ordeal. I'm baffled by people's stupidity when it comes to this. It's beyond anyones wildest comprehension.

*Re-use pictures because I'm appearantly unable to say anything worthwhile*

CoolKid12. You've earned yourself a report. If you think it's justified to downgrade a product to this state, because you feel unsatisfied about the ending you recieved, which you probably for starters didn't comprehend, is just ridicilous. I suppose you go on about just everything in your life, giving it all 1/10 because you feel that the product was "poor", when there was just one nitpicky piece in reality.

Please, what's wrong with people when it comes to Mass Effect 3? 

Oh look there it is again.

You don't like the ending because you weren't intelligent enough to understand it. Not to mention blanket assumptions that the OP voted the product 1/10. The customer is completely correct. The product doesn't contain what it was promised to contain. I don't understand why this is so hard to get.

You reported someone for posting a picture and then turn around and post this crap? Reported yourself, good sir.

Modifié par Rafe34, 01 avril 2012 - 06:56 .

[spz123]

See a fair few places selling it for 25 quid, which from a month ago has come down from £40. A far steeper decline in price than normal.

I guess if you want to pull a stunt and throw in an ending that has "lots of speculation for everyone" regardless of whether its a ploy to get people to buy DLC, then you'd best be prepared for things like this to happen.

[Talogrungi]

They're still selling the PC and PS3 one, so I imagine they've just a "not as advertised" complaint from an Xbox player and have suspended sales while they investigate it.

[Bob3terd]

Erm ok well as much as i dont like the endings and want bioware to fix em, i dont want bioware chaps to lose their jobs.....

[Aznable Char]

Fingertrip wrote...

CoolKid12. You've earned yourself a report. If you think it's justified to downgrade a product to this state, because you feel unsatisfied about the ending you recieved, which you probably for starters didn't comprehend, is just ridicilous. I suppose you go on about just everything in your life, giving it all 1/10 because you feel that the product was "poor", when there was just one nitpicky piece in reality.

Please, what's wrong with people when it comes to Mass Effect 3? 

what are you talking about ?? I gave ME3 16 stars on my review .

[RenownedRyan]

Fingertrip wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Wow, people are .... so blind and really immature about this whole ordeal. I'm baffled by people's stupidity when it comes to this. It's beyond anyones wildest comprehension.

*Re-use pictures because I'm appearantly unable to say anything worthwhile*

CoolKid12. You've earned yourself a report. If you think it's justified to downgrade a product to this state, because you feel unsatisfied about the ending you recieved, which you probably for starters didn't comprehend, is just ridicilous. I suppose you go on about just everything in your life, giving it all 1/10 because you feel that the product was "poor", when there was just one nitpicky piece in reality.

Please, what's wrong with people when it comes to Mass Effect 3? 

The entire product was shoddy and failed to realize the promises that were made by developers prior to the release of the game.  It is perfectly accurate to report the product for failing to meet expectations and not being the product that was described by those selling it.

[Dorfgonewild81]

Talogrungi wrote...

They're still selling the PC and PS3 one, so I imagine they've just a "not as advertised" complaint from an Xbox player and have suspended sales while they investigate it.

hmmm, I get the message for all 3 versions when I just checked it

/shrugs

I do find it kind of funny that you can setup 1 day shipping for the PC and PS3 version though

[ThePanzer99]

iamthedave3 wrote...

DESTRAUDO wrote...

I have never seen fans of anything take such glee in hammering it into the dirt.

Fans very rarely feel as betrayed and ignored as in the case of ME 3.

Exactly. Bioware did this to itself, and instead of manning up to it they've BS'd, PR'd, and insulted their customers.

When other game companies mock your ending you've really screwed up.

[RenownedRyan]

MrnDpty161 wrote...

Zeppex wrote...

Even though I ****ing hate the endings, seeing the game go down in price very fast or on sale very fast is not good. I can attribute alot of it to fan backlash cuz of the ending, but some reviews are idiotic. The less games BW sells, the less money EW will give them to makes games. Which would lead to ****tier games...

Why get mad - they made bookoo bucks already with their initial  1 million copies or so --- they made their cash, and your fogetting all that MP B.S.

They are not loosing money any time soon to prevent them from making more games. If that was the case, they need to re-look at their money managing skills and stop being so wasteful, but I don't think that is the case at all.

Their the ones that got theirs, the fans didn't.

Exactly.  I'd like to see the earnings that BioWare has brought in from this game in the first few weeks alone.  Possibly more money than many on this forum will see in their lifetimes.  Also, when are people going to realize that when a product is inferior, demand goes down.  When demand goes down, prices go down.  That's 7th Grade Economics people.

Modifié par RenownedRyan, 01 avril 2012 - 07:04 .

[Militarized]

I take no pleasure in this, this is not how things should have gone down. It should be worth MORE money but alas it is not.

[troyk2027]

After all the money they made off the BS day one DLC that was already on the disk, I can't get myself to feel bad about this, at all.

[Rafe34]

humes spork wrote...


Keep in mind that while people are celebrating this kind of thing, it's also this kind of thing coupled with EA's very business strategies aforementioned celebrants call out that could, and at this point are likely, to cause this whole thing to colossally backfire in fans' faces. EA cuts its losses, cans or severely curbs future DLC and support, and prematurely closes doors and shuts the lights off on Mass Effect.

This is getting to the point "retakers" are jumping into the wood chipper nose-first to spite their face.

Serious question here.

Then what would you say customers that are unsatisfied with a product and want it to be changed SHOULD do? Simply sit back and hope the developers will change the endings out of the kindness of their heart just because they asked?

I don't really see an alternative here.

[RenownedRyan]

troyk2027 wrote...

After all the money they made off the BS day one DLC that was already on the disk, I can't get myself to feel bad about this, at all.

Right on brother.  Right on.

[Zeppex]

Quick question, if anyone knows, please say something. If say they announce they sold 3million copies in March etc... Would that be just be physical copies? 360, PS3, PC disc... Or would that also count Origin digital sales, I would think they would want Origin to be their top seller no? Isn't that alot more profitable, EA sells game to Gamestop for 50, Gamestop sales for 60. But on Origin EA sells for 60 but all profit to them and they have put it in a disc and no packaging etc.

[RenownedRyan]

If BioWare goes under (they won't, this has raised money for the company) I will not lose any sleep. The business world, like the world at large, is a harsh place. When you fail to deliver you aren't going to come out unscathed. Furthermore, they released a broken product (import face glitches), slapped on day-one, on-disc DLC for ten dollars (apparently our $60 did not warrant the full game), and blatantly and knowingly lied to prospective customers for months before the game's release. When a company does these things, they deserve to experience backlash. The United States is a very, very corporation-friendly nation (more so than any other in history) and the "Don't be mean to BioWare" crowd goes to show the psychological effects that this country's policies have on the average citizen.

[humes spork]

vivaladricas wrote...

EA had nothing to do with the written ending, that apparatnly was Hudson and Walters.  If anything I would have shown them the door already. 

EA holds the pursestrings, and Muzyka as an exec VP can only go so far to shield the company. He still has a board of directors and shareholders to which he's accountable. The message by "retakers" should have been dampened and kept dampened until BW's April announcement(s), because an immoderate response at this point can indicate there's no salvaging the franchise and the best way to maintain the bottom line is to clear cut and run.

In which case, nobody wins. Not "retakers", not people who are on the fence, not even people who are happy with what they got and just want to see more. Certainly not BioWare nor EA, because future profitability at least on the basis of the ME franchise has been crippled beyond salvage.

You already see indicators of this: flagging ANN support and releases compared to launch week, no word on multiplayer balance fixes aside from server-side spreadsheet changes, no word on a content or bugfix patch, still no word on future DLC releases up to and including an ending fix patch. Post-release ME3 support has almost completely stalled in the last month, and that indicates something is going on behind the scenes that doesn't necessarily bode well for the fans.

Really, the question everyone should ask here, is whether they want to see the ME franchise and BW prosper, or burn. If you want to see it burn, please by all means continue but do not lay claim you're doing it to satisfy anything but your base urges and spite. If you actually want to see a positive outcome of all this, moderation and civility absolutely, positively cannot be compromised whatever the cost -- even if that means disavowing and condemning fellow "retakers" who take holding the line too far.

Modifié par humes spork, 01 avril 2012 - 07:13 .

[spz123]

No doubt that this is just Amazon following procedure after receiving probably a fair few complaints from disatisfied customers. I imagine it'll be back on sale very soon. Probably as early as tomorrow.

The real damage is from the price going down in such short space of time. Once the price starts to decline, it rarely goes back up again apart from sales.

[Dorfgonewild81]

Zeppex wrote...

Quick question, if anyone knows, please say something. If say they announce they sold 3million copies in March etc... Would that be just be physical copies? 360, PS3, PC disc... Or would that also count Origin digital sales, I would think they would want Origin to be their top seller no? Isn't that alot more profitable, EA sells game to Gamestop for 50, Gamestop sales for 60. But on Origin EA sells for 60 but all profit to them and they have put it in a disc and no packaging etc.

If EA made the announcement, it would probably include Origin sales.  Things like VGcharts don't usually have all online sales or atleast digital downloads.  It also wouldn't include refunded/returned copies most likely.

[pharsti]

This makes me sad, i mean, i love ME, it didnt deserve this.....

But on another hand, this is hilarious and well deserved for BW.... i mean, you reap what you sow.

[J717]

Delicious, delicious karma.