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[av196vad]

METALPUNKS wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

av196vad wrote...

APRIL FOOLS!

Is that all. Why would you keep showing that you can't be civil. Wow you said April fools good for you, now move along if you can't remain respectable here. This thread is for adults only. Stop wasting your time because your not wasting mine. 

I can't help it, It's the only possible explanation when someone says that they enjoy the ending.
That ending has enough plot holes to sink a ship.

[CARL_DF90]

Uh huh. Yeah, right. Sorry op but your argument has quite a few flaws. Read this article here for the details on how.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

[BusterHighman]

+rep to the OP

Don't change it BioWare. It's your game.

[Darth Malice113]

METALPUNKS wrote...

translationninja wrote...OP: If you feel the ending worked for you and you feel like praising BW for it then go right ahead. Don't be distracted or anything.

And for anyone else, it's a shame really. We have a plethora of threads where we are taking the ****** on BW, why come in here and try to convince or contradict this guy here?

It was his experience. He experienced it in his own way and it worked for him. I'm pretty sure he has read enough about why lots and lots of people don't like it, there was really no need to hijack his thread and reiterate it yet again.

OP: The ending didn't work for me personally at all, but if it worked for you, I'm happy for you (and a little jealous, wish I could have made it work for me somehow)

Hey man thanks! I appreciate the defense. I hope you get your ending soon. 

As for anyone else who posted below him please keep it coming, still all your doing is showing you can't handle talking amongst the communtiy. It's makes me frown that some people can't just be cool with someone who has been nice and civil. It's April 2nd four minutes ago here in California and nope not a joke, sorry no fools here except these foolish posts. I'd watch the comments Bioware is really cracking down on it. I find some of them offensive and that's all it takes. Your not hurting me in the long run, only yourself.  

" This hurts you."

[METALPUNKS]

Jawsomebob wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...

BiancoAngelo7 wrote...

av196vad wrote...
APRIL FOOLS!

Is that all. Why would you keep showing that you can't be civil. Wow you said April fools good for you, now move along if you can't remain respectable here. This thread is for adults only. Stop wasting your time because your not wasting mine. 

my god...your a little kid yourself. "act like adults?" You just cant deal with the fact that people think your quite skewed in your viewpoint.

Actually I can deal with that perfectly fine, I've showed that again and again. What I can't deal with is the same record being played over and over and over and over. Yaaay it WAS April 1st, well not anymore. I saw numerous threads where numerous people called anyone who liked the ending a troll or said "doh...it's April fools". It is clearer than day and proof right here who can't handle someones veiwpoint. I can, I just wanted some respect. Bioware also wants some respect, they are seriously cracking down on these people. 

 Reply if you'd like but I will not after this. I'm not getting my thread closed like countless others because people can't be civil. I don't know anyone adult that acts like some of these members. My 8 year old nephew can be more mannered. 

[BronD69]

METALPUNKS, if your happy with the ending thats all that matters.For me not so much ..

It's far greater to of loved and lost than to of never loved at all!!

Modifié par BronD69, 02 avril 2012 - 07:25 .

[BronD69]

BronD69 wrote...

METALPUNKS, if your happy with the ending thats all that matters.For me not so much..

It's far greater to of loved and lost than to of never loved at all!!

[Dragoonlordz]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Uh huh. Yeah, right. Sorry op but your argument has quite a few flaws. Read this article here for the details on how.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

The fans do not own the franchise, never created the content and should not dictate what Bioware chooses to do.

You are free to go elsewhere and think your departure will end Bioware (it won't). But it is up to Bioware to decide if they want to do anything and especially what they want to do about it. You can make your choice to stay or leave after you see what they decided to do, whether you can live with that or not. However they have already said on multiple occassions they are not altering the current endings but just adding exposition in the form of DLC to bring closure to those who find that acceptable. In the end you have to wait see what they choose to create and hope it is enough for you.

Those who do not find it such will either stick around and complain or leave, I do not know which each person will do but they will not try to resolve an issue twice both in terms of money and time developing content. Many have said they would find that acceptable just like many have said they would not. Such is life and you can't please everyone since not everyone wants the same's things even within retake and those who dislike the ending. There is no consensus amongst those who disliked the ending the only thing they all have in common on that side is they disliked it and nothing more. Within that element you have many groups who want different things, that alone is reason enough to let Bioware handle it the way they wish to.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 avril 2012 - 07:27 .

[METALPUNKS]

CARL_DF90 wrote...Uh huh. Yeah, right. Sorry op but your argument has quite a few flaws. Read this article here for the details on how.http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

It was never an argument here. It's an opinion. I never stated why I loved the ending, this isn't and wasn't the place to discuss it. I don't need proof or facts to change my mind. I just felt it and that's all. Thanks for the link but I won't even click on it. Not because I'm closed minded and can't see anything else except what I believe but because it says 5 reasons the fans are right. There is no reason to be right or wrong on this. It's if you felt it or didn't and it's about not changing the ending and just adding on instead, everyone wins that way. Sorry no holes here eexcept the ones I talk and poop from. 

[whiteraider]

Dont download any fix, if you want to keep the current joke!

[METALPUNKS]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...
Uh huh. Yeah, right. Sorry op but your argument has quite a few flaws. Read this article here for the details on how.
http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

The fans do not own the franchise, never created the content and should not dictate what Bioware chooses to do.
You are free to go elsewhere and think your departure will end Bioware (it won't). But it is up to Bioware to decide if they want to do anything and especially what they want to do about it. You can make your choice to stay or leave after you see what they decided to do, whether you can live with that or not. However they have already said on multiple occassions they are not altering the current endings but just adding exposition in the form of DLC to bring closure to those who find that acceptable. In the end you have to wait see what they choose to create and hope it is enough for you.

Those who do not find it such will either stick around and complain or leave, I do not know which each person will do but they will not try to resolve an issue twice both in terms of money and time developing content. Many have said they would find that acceptable just like many have said they would not. Such is life and you can't please everyone since not everyone wants the same's things even within retake and those who dislike the ending. There is no consensus amongst those who disliked the ending the only thing they all have in common on that side is they disliked it and nothing more.

^THIS. Very well said.

[Wynne]

METALPUNKS wrote...

 This is a spoiler free zone. We are not discussing any details of the ending. All we want to do is tell Bioware thank you and to keep the ending. Adding onto the ending so we can play more of out favorite game is okay but to change it would be a shame. 

Incorrect. For those of you who like the ending, you have it already. For you, that can be your canon forever. You will never need to buy or download any DLC--you can have it as you like it, with Shepard going gently into that good night.

For the rest of us, however, there can be a change, and for those on the fence, there can be more options for how to view the end of Shepard's story. That is never a bad thing.

Modifié par Wynne, 02 avril 2012 - 07:30 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Wynne wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...

 This is a spoiler free zone. We are not discussing any details of the ending. All we want to do is tell Bioware thank you and to keep the ending. Adding onto the ending so we can play more of out favorite game is okay but to change it would be a shame. 

Incorrect. For those of you who like the ending, you have it already. For you, that can be your canon forever. You will never need to buy or download any DLC--you can have it as you like it.

For the rest of us, however, there can be a change, and for those on the fence, there can be more options for how to view the end of Shepard's story. That is never a bad thing.

This would be valid but for one thing. I find it very hard to believe that any content they create is limited to the ending alone as Bioware have never made content for only a portion of it's fanbase. As such I do not find this response acceptable/valid because it means all the non ending content I would have to be excluded from because I did not want to erase or replace what I already liked. If they can create something which has no effect on the current endings it would be more acceptable to me. Think along the lines of back in time the creation of the *you know what* and explain it that way, or after effect of (companions) which *you know what* played out in the future without *you know who* given what happened to him or her. Grrr non spoiler forum...

If the content does not include however anything outside the context of merely the ending then this is not such a problem for me but I seriously doubt that would be the case. If you get what I mean by what I said.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[Zeratul20]

Sinnerous wrote...
Troll is Trolling

Lesdeth wrote...

So you enjoy an ABC ending that does not take any decisions from the previous two games and itself into account?  Interesting.

Etc., etc. So much for being respectful and constructive, aye, guys?

[BronD69]

Take Earth Back? STILL DONT GET THAT ONE!!

[Embrosil]

I still do not get people asking to keep this current crappy ending. If you like it so much, do not install the DLC (if there is ever going to be one). That is all. Easy right?

[AlienWolf728]

Embrosil wrote...

I still do not get people asking to keep this current crappy ending. If you like it so much, do not install the DLC (if there is ever going to be one). That is all. Easy right?

[Gwtheyrn]

synsam wrote...

Look whether you like it or not is your opinion and no one but you can decide that, however it is really selfish of you to want to keep the ending the way it is just because you liked it. The ending currently in development by Bioware due to release this month will be a DLC for the thousands if not millions of us who felt mass effect was not given the ending it deserves.
Also I would like to hear peoples opinions on the armours in Mass Effect 1/2/3 if you have an opinion or suggestion lets hear it. http://social.biowar.../index/10874279

Anything Bioware realeases DLC-wise was already being worked on well ahead of time. This stuff generally takes a lot of man-hours to complete. Even something as small as From Ashes was, it was still cut out due to time constraints. Even if they started working on something to fix the ending in an epic manner on day 1, it would still be months before it was ready.

[kamikazekeeg]

I personally don't demand them to CHANGE the ending, like give it a new ending, I just want to see the inarguable issues with the ending fixed or revised. Some proper closure, make the different choices seem like they mean something, fix blatant plotholes. I was never one to demand them to fix it, but doing so would make me feel better about the game, cause it simply does have what most could consider a broken ending.

[CARL_DF90]

@ METALPUNKS

Actually, if you look past the title the article details the various mistake and problems there are in not only the ending in ME3, but explains some of the hows and whys the fanbase is in uproar over these issues. It's actually a VERY informative read that I highly recommend. You'd be doing yourself a favor.

@ Dragoonlordz

The same above goes to you because all points it raises are all completely valid. It's not about ownership of the fans or any such nonsense like entitlement to anything. If something is broke fixing it in some way is usually a good idea. I am curious to see how they will go about doing it. Oh, cute pic by the way.

[METALPUNKS]

Embrosil wrote...

I still do not get people asking to keep this current crappy ending. If you like it so much, do not install the DLC (if there is ever going to be one). That is all. Easy right?

Of course it's easy that is my point. Again I will sound like a broken record but if it makes it so people understand I'll say for the 100th time. Keep the ending because that's what Bioware already wrote. Add dlc after the fact to explain more and give closure to people. Ahh this gets so old. 

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Lesdeth wrote...

So you enjoy an ABC ending that does not take any decisions from the previous two games and itself into account?  Interesting.

While I know that it would be bad for buisness I wish Bioware would just release a statement telling all their so-called fans to go **** themselves, seriously this ending controversy his gone beyond rediculous and between all the accusations of "dumbing down" and ending hate somebody from Bioware just needs to step up and tell everyone to grow the **** up, so what if there isnt some short clip at the end of the game summing up your actions over the course of the 3 games, perhaps they thought it would be superfluous since you get to see the effects of your actions first hand as you actually play through the game.

So yeah i'll sign your petition if only to give the finger to those crying for a new ending, I seriously hope Bioware doesnt cave to these jackasses.

[Gwtheyrn]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The fans do not own the franchise, never created the content and should not dictate what Bioware chooses to do.

You are free to go elsewhere and think your departure will end Bioware (it won't). But it is up to Bioware to decide if they want to do anything and especially what they want to do about it. You can make your choice to stay or leave after you see what they decided to do, whether you can live with that or not. However they have already said on multiple occassions they are not altering the current endings but just adding exposition in the form of DLC to bring closure to those who find that acceptable. In the end you have to wait see what they choose to create and hope it is enough for you.

You're right that Bioware is under no obligation to change anything about the endings. However, at this point, it would be an extremely poor business decision to not try to patch up the leaky plot, and potentially a dangerous career choice as well. I imagine that the suits over in EA's board of directors are far less than pleased. Over the course of just two releases, Bioware's reputation has taken a severe hit. That reputation is what EA paid for when they bought the studio. This is turning into a salvage operation: reputation, customer base, jobs.

You also shouldn't take lightly the threat from people to stop purchasing the games. Pre-orders for games have become exceptionally important. It is extemely likely that two titles which disappointed their customers are going to start badly affecting their sales. With the cost to make AAA titles what it is today, such an event really could be the funeral bell for a studio. If sales of Dragon Age III bombs (and the current backlash may cause just that), I can't imagine that EA would allow the Bioware studio to exist in its current state with current staff, if at all.

I will wait and see what they choose to do about this unless they decide to charge money for it. Bioware will not get another dime from me until they can prove that they're recommitted to telling a great story back to front.

Those who do not find it such will either stick around and complain or leave, I do not know which each person will do but they will not try to resolve an issue twice both in terms of money and time developing content. Many have said they would find that acceptable just like many have said they would not. Such is life and you can't please everyone since not everyone wants the same's things even within retake and those who dislike the ending. There is no consensus amongst those who disliked the ending the only thing they all have in common on that side is they disliked it and nothing more. Within that element you have many groups who want different things, that alone is reason enough to let Bioware handle it the way they wish to.

If you think that people who disliked the ending don't have very similar reasons for doing so, you've not really been reading very thoroughly or are being intentionally dismissive in order to provoke others.

[CARL_DF90]

Exactly my thoughts.

[SwitchN7]

Trolling OP is clearly trolling.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 02 avril 2012 - 08:34 .