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[METALPUNKS]

Here is a one reason of many why I loved the ending and probably my biggest reason. We are getting more. Shepard takes a gasp of air and the grandfather says one more story. Bioware shows us right there that they are not done. I was sad at times throughout the game thinking soon this would all be gone but after seeing the ending I was so happy to have Bioware hint to me that there is more. It was a relief to know the adventure wasn't going to end here. So in a way I was happy with the ending because there was no end to Mass Effect.

There was no need to petition Bioware for a new ending because they were always going to add on to the story. I hope now that they don't change it after all the hate towards them, I hope they only continue the end like they originally were going to. 

Modifié par METALPUNKS, 02 avril 2012 - 10:08 .

[METALPUNKS]

SwitchN7 wrote...

Trolling OP is clearly trolling.

Lol Yes caught me. Gosh darn it. I must be a troll because I have an opinion in which is not the same as yours. Please leave the personal hits out. I take being called a troll very personal. Why can't you prove that you can chat amongst fans in a way that doesn't make you look bad. It's you who is harming yourself. 

Your calling me a troll yet your coming into a friendly discussion calling people names. I'm trying to keep this thread clean so the moderators have one less to worry about. They have been very busy lately. I think I've done one heck of a job keeping this thread civil. Nearly everyone is being incredibly nice and understanding. Together we have managed to keep a thread on this topic open longer than most out there, let's keep it that way please. If you can't your making yourself look bad, not me. 

Modifié par METALPUNKS, 02 avril 2012 - 10:03 .

[METALPUNKS]

SwitchN7 wrote...

Trolling OP is clearly trolling.

Edit: accidental post. Sorry

Modifié par METALPUNKS, 02 avril 2012 - 05:07 .

[METALPUNKS]

For me it's about artist integrity. If they add onto the ending them you'll get your explanation and they keep the integrity. If they make an entirely new ending then Mass Effect 3 will have no ending because it was forced. It's just not a good idea for anyone. I believe they always had full intentions to add to the ending, I don't think the audience had anything to do with that. If Bioware ever does change the ending because they feel pressured by the buyer then will you really be satisfied with the ending? It would be the ending you wrote not them. Some may argue that works for them because at least they get the ending they wanted. Huge problem with that, it becomes an insert here ending. Regardless if I hated, loved it or was just ok with it at least it's the ending that they intended for us to see. Yes if I hated it I would want more explained or an epilogue but I'd want it as an add on, a continuation of the story. Or better yet a whole new game, more mass effect means more time I get play and more adventure I get to be a part of.

I wouldn't worry about it though. I have faith Bioware will make right by their fans. It will just take time or like I said they may have planned for more Mass Effect all along. I'm sure they were a little taken back by the fans reactions.

Now being mad that this was biowares plan all along, to make you pay for the ending you wanted that's a whole other topic. I don't mind paying for dlc, we always have and always will have to. I hated the end of Rage, at first I was. Now I realize they are adding onto it. They are gonna charge me for it, I'm fine with that. I don't mind paying to play something I know cost other people time and money to make. With mass effect that is a huge game, I'm sure time restraints played a huge part in everything. If they had all the time and money in the world, I'm sure the game would never end but unfortunately it has to. From Ashes must have been something extra that they wanted to fit into the game but just didn't have the time for, so they thought is a good enough part of the story for us not to miss so they sold it as dlc. I'm glad they did because I would hate to miss out on it. Keep them coming Bioware.

[Lynata]

METALPUNKS wrote...
For me it's about artist integrity. If they add onto the ending them you'll get your explanation and they keep the integrity. If they make an entirely new ending then Mass Effect 3 will have no ending because it was forced.

+1

I can get behind this.

[METALPUNKS]

Lynata wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...
For me it's about artist integrity. If they add onto the ending them you'll get your explanation and they keep the integrity. If they make an entirely new ending then Mass Effect 3 will have no ending because it was forced.

+1

I can get behind this.

Cool thanks. It's just about what everything stands for with me. 

[Metalunatic]

Some people have low standards for an ending to a 5 year trilogy. All I can say is that I envy you who feel like the current ending is a good one.

[METALPUNKS]

Metalunatic wrote...
Some people have low standards for an ending to a 5 year trilogy. All I can say is that I envy you who feel like the current ending is a good one.

Come on man. I don't say your dumb for not getting it. This isn't even about the ending being good or bad, there are a trillion other threads for that. Even though I loved the ending I'm on your side and Biowares, really there is no sides. I find it funny that people say they can be adults and be civil yet I am forced to defend what I believe every five minutes. I hate that the ending didn't work for you. I just believe if an ending to anything is rewritten its not the true ending. The people who would take that ending have the low standards because your forcing an artist to change his or her work 
Writing is artistic in everyway. 

Get your ending but not by forcing onto Bioware because all that would be is selling out on both parties. Let them
Add on to the ending they have already created. Would it be so bad at all if they kept the ending and just continued the story and resolved the issue. Would that not be good enough? 
Having it any other way would be a bad thing for the industry, both the players and the developers. 

 Bioware has never let you down. Even now you may think so but none of us know what their intentions were from the start. Meaning they could have a bunch more post end of the game being worked on right now. Now is the time to focus on the real problem and that is changing the ME3 ending to a forced ending which would not be the true ending. 

Modifié par METALPUNKS, 02 avril 2012 - 11:29 .

[Sero303]

I kind of like the "April Fools" theory...

[METALPUNKS]

Sero303 wrote...

I kind of like the "April Fools" theory...

Not really april 1st anymore so.....

[METALPUNKS]

I will say that when the new ending comes out if it's a change to the current one or an add on to the current one I will be playing it. I love mass effect and I'd play anything that has to do with it. They can release a mass effect puzzle game and I'd be all over it. Plus I am very curious to see what they will do and I'll be the first to admit if I like it or not, I have no problem admitting to liking it. It's the way that it had to be done that I don't like. Just don't like it had to be carried out this way.

Soon everyone will be happy and mass effect will be the best series ever to you and Bioware will be one of your favorites again. The day the new ending comes out we will see all these "I love you Bioware" threads, which they deserved from the start for making a brilliant game regardless if the ending was not up to par for you.

[uberdowzen]

METALPUNKS wrote...

 This is a spoiler free zone. We are not discussing any details of the ending. All we want to do is tell Bioware thank you and to keep the ending. Adding onto the ending so we can play more of out favorite game is okay but to change it would be a shame. Please comment if your want to say thank you to the Bioware team and if you are satified with ME3 from start to finish. Also please no rude comments or troll calling, the people who hate the ending have plenty of their own threads and a petition. This is simply to show support to out favorite I hard working team. Any of the rude comments will not even be replied to. Show that we can be civil and show your support for Bioware. 

  There is no need for discussion, it's already very clear how people feel. Nobody needs to defend themselves in here. If you do decide to be nasty it will just show us you can't talk amongst friends in a civil way. I have said my peace and have been angry but now is not the time. It's not about that anymore, it's only but letting Bioware know their work is perfect the way it is. If you can't be nice then that's on you and you are the only one that has to deal with that. This is especially do after the new code of conduct rules that have been applied. 


  So let's show Bioware we care and that what they did for the entire game, including the end was loved by us. It's brilliance at its best. 

   Thank you Bioware for making my life a little less hectic by making me a part of the universe you have created. I will never forget the memories and the characters you have made for me. It's been a fun ride and it has been a honor being part of that from beggining to end. Hats off.

+1

[Calbeb]

I think there are things in the ending which really don't make a lot of sense. Those have been illustrated in many other threads, so I won't get into them here.

Bioware should respond to that, and iron out those issues. The ending needs to make some sense within the context of the game as a whole.

With that said, they shouldn't AXE IT. Whether this was their original intent or not, this is the ending they created for the franchise. People telling them "nope, we want something else entirely" shouldn't mean that they get that. Honestly, if they did that, they will frustrate those who enjoyed the ending, those who want them to be artists, and probably the people who wanted a new ending, since it doubtlessly wouldn't live up to their expectations either.

I don't know why their weren't radically different endings. I don't know if it was resources, time, or artistic intent. But whatever the restriction or reason, they made a choice, and it doesn't change how amazing the rest of the game is, as much as some fans seem to want it too for everyone.

Modifié par Calbeb, 03 avril 2012 - 05:07 .

[MaleQuariansFTW]

Adding on to the ending >>> Indoctrination Theory.

[METALPUNKS]

Calbeb wrote...I think there are things in the ending which really don't make a lot of sense. Those have been illustrated in many other threads, so I won't get into them here.

Bioware should respond to that, and iron out those issues. The ending needs to make some sense within the context of the game as a whole.

With that said, they shouldn't AXE IT. Whether this was their original intent or not, this is the ending they created for the franchise. People telling them "nope, we want something else entirely" shouldn't mean that they get that. Honestly, if they did that, they will frustrate those who enjoyed the ending, those who want them to be artists, and probably the people who wanted a new ending, since it doubtlessly wouldn't live up to their expectations either.

I don't know why their weren't radically different endings. I don't know if it was resources, time, or artistic intent. But whatever the restriction or reason, they made a choice, and it doesn't change how amazing the rest of the game is, as much as some fans seem to want it too for everyone.

Not sure why the endings weren't that different either, I get your point. Like you've stated and I have stated maybe there is a chance this was their intention from day one. I just wish people wouldn't have gotten so mad before we even knew what was going on, I'm sure once Bioware makes an announcement there will be fans that regret what they said, some won't care but some will. Mark my words Bioware will make it right, it's what they were planning all along.

[Foulpancake]

Sinnerous wrote...

Troll is Trolling

^

[Calbeb]

Foulpancake wrote...

Sinnerous wrote...

Troll is Trolling

^

The BSN, the only place on the internet where you will be called a troll if you ARENT insulting the product whose forums you are on :b

[DJBare]

METALPUNKS wrote...
Not sure why the endings weren't that different either, I get your point. Like you've stated and I have stated maybe there is a chance this was their intention from day one. I just wish people wouldn't have gotten so mad before we even knew what was going on, I'm sure once Bioware makes an announcement there will be some fans that regret what they said, some won't care but some will. Mark my words Bioware will make it right, it's what they were planning all along.

I will never regret saying it has a bad ending, because in my "opinion" it IS a bad ending, no matter what they add to it, the only other thing anyone can say is this is not the "real ending"; in which case we were sold short, this was to be the "ending of a trilogy"; so people expected an ending, not an add on DLC ending.

[Vesji]

Lynata wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...
For me it's about artist integrity. If they add onto the ending them you'll get your explanation and they keep the integrity. If they make an entirely new ending then Mass Effect 3 will have no ending because it was forced.

+1

I can get behind this.

I can't. You shouldn't. 

The meaning of integrity: adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness ofmoral character; honesty. 

In order for the integrity to be strong, it has to be well established and to have powerful principals, which people can respect.
The "artistic integrity" in relation to the ME3 ending is sheer crap. Yes I know I said it, but it's true.

Why would you fight for something that's awful to begin with? Why not support the establishment of a better one?

[starscreamerx31]

A keep the ending petition wowwww ( looks down and leaves) wowwww no further comments needed

[gavccu]

Metalpunks, good on you man - Yours (and many other people who are in agreement with you) opinion is 100% valid. Getting a bit fed up with all the hate out there.

Seem to remember a (albeit much less publicised) reaction to the old BBC series' Blakes Seven and The Tripods; which both left the viewer perplexed and dissapointed and are now looked back upon as being 'classic' or 'bold & courageous' etc.

Saying that im yet to finish the game, but it has been impossible to avoid some spoiler action on the old interweb so i get the gist...

Can't beat a good old fashioned nihlistic ending though. British Sci-fi is full of them.

[McAllyster]

Bioware HAVE TO CHANGE the ending.

[gavccu]

No they don't. Artistically, that lacks integrity

[The Razman]

Vesji wrote...

Lynata wrote...

METALPUNKS wrote...
For me it's about artist integrity. If they add onto the ending them you'll get your explanation and they keep the integrity. If they make an entirely new ending then Mass Effect 3 will have no ending because it was forced.

+1

I can get behind this.

I can't. You shouldn't. 

The meaning of integrity: adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness ofmoral character; honesty. 

In order for the integrity to be strong, it has to be well established and to have powerful principals, which people can respect.
The "artistic integrity" in relation to the ME3 ending is sheer crap. Yes I know I said it, but it's true.

Why would you fight for something that's awful to begin with? Why not support the establishment of a better one?

Because then it becomes "Mass Effect 3: An epic trilogy by Bioware (except for the ending, which was forced onto them by fans and isn't how Bioware wanted to end things)".

I don't want an ending that was only made to try and make people happy. I want Bioware's ending. I want Bioware's ending to Bioware's story, no matter how they chose to end it.

[orangesonic]

no one can force Bioware to do anything... they do what they want with the ending, listen to the Fans is, and always were a Bioware word, we just expect Bioware to listen to the fans as they always did...
if THEY want to do something with the ending or not it isn`t our final decision, and if they do anything about it, i will be happy because a company that do something for the fans/buyers, it`s better than a company that says ``F**k u! we do what we want, don`t buy if u don`t like``

i don`t like this BS about the artistic integrity thing... it starting to sound like a excuse to anything wrong or good in the game industry... that will get better when we start getting shi**y games that the developer claims it`s because artistic integrity

Bioware it`s a company, and we pay for it`s products... no matter what we discuss, many people disliked the ending... like me... or like it... like you... it`s just a pointless neverending discussion