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[RenownedRyan]

The official reasoning for having less squadmates was to "focus more on the individual squadmates." This doesn't do much to explain the fact that they seem to have far less dialogue (almost everything they say is set, whereas in previous titles they could say three separate things in nearly every instance) and my opinion that squadmates like EDI and Vega are relatively uninteresting (especially Vega, who has a very generic soldier story). Once again, this could be attributed to outright developer laziness.

[Jvolikas]

I wanted Wrex and Kirrahe (how awesome would that have been?) for squadmates too.

[BIGLEE337]

I missed not having a Krogan squad mate, I would have liked to have Wrex back but I know story wise it wouldn't make sense, but I think Grunt could have been brought back into the squad very easily.

[Yokokorama]

Actually, ME2 had 12 squadmates while ME3 only has 7.

ME2:

Miranda, Jacob, Zaeed, Jack, Tali, Garrus, Grunt, Legion, Thane, Mordin, Samara, and Kasumi [DLC].

ME3:

Ashley/Kaidan, Garrus, Tali, Edi, Vega, Liara, and Javik (DLC).

Of course, there is the fact that if Garrus and Tali died in ME2 they won't be in the game, leaving you with only 5 squadmates. If you shoot Ashley/Kaidan on the Citadel via bad dialogue choices, they die too, leaving you with only 4. Lastly, if you didn't buy Javik, you'll only have 3.

Pretty underwhelming roster if you ask me, especially when half of it depends on whether or not ME2 squaddies survived.

[darthnick427]

Yeah... I would have kicked some people out of the ME3 squad for other far cooler people....

My ME3 squad would have been: Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex/Grunt (One or the other), Legion, Mordin/Kirrahe (If Mordin isn't available), Jack, Javik, Kasumi, and Vega had I been given the choice

Modifié par darthnick427, 01 avril 2012 - 07:33 .

[Slash1667]

darthnick427 wrote...

Yeah... I would have kicked some people out of the ME3 squad for other far cooler people....

My ME3 squad would have been: Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex/Grunt (One or the other), Legion, Mordin/Kirrahe (If Mordin isn't available), Jack, Javik, Kasumi, and Vega had I been given the choice

I would've went with Garrus, Tali, Ash, Vega, Legion, Jack, Kasumi, Mordin and Miranda

[RenownedRyan]

Slash1667 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Yeah... I would have kicked some people out of the ME3 squad for other far cooler people....

My ME3 squad would have been: Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex/Grunt (One or the other), Legion, Mordin/Kirrahe (If Mordin isn't available), Jack, Javik, Kasumi, and Vega had I been given the choice

I would've went with Garrus, Tali, Ash, Vega, Legion, Jack, Kasumi, Mordin and Miranda

I would have taken everyone from Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect.  Then added Kal'Reegar and a Batarian.  But that would have taken far too much time and effort.

[Newnation]

I was actually happy with the squad I had. I do wish the ME 2 squad had a more expanded role but I understand why they did this since everyone was fair game. I really did like how they handle Miranda, Thane, Jack, Legion, and Mordin. The story explanations on why they couldn't join you made sense.

There could have been a few missions where you worked with Jack and the students and or Grunt and his squad but I'm happy with what we got. I really enjoyed everything about the game until the last three or four minutes.

[DevilBeast]

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

[ahandsomeshark]

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

like Zaeed hanging out in the docking area?

[o Ventus]

DevilBeast wrote...

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

It doesn't make the reasons given any less retarded.

Jack - "I need to go teach some biotic kids off-screen"

Miranda - Loyalty mission 2.0

Kasumi - "I don't feel like tagging along this time"

Samara - Something, something, about her code (Makes zero sense)

At least Mordin, Legion, Thane, and Zaeed's reasons contain some semblence of reason. Mordin with the genophage cure, he can't really afford to be running and gunning. Legion was hooked up to the Reaper signal transmitter. Zaeed is digging up his old contact network, and Thane is dying.

[Zuka999]

Most of them had no reason to come onto the Normandy for extended periods of time, but I don't get why their cameos were just them running around talking to you on the comm. Why couldn't they temporarily join your squad (if you wanted) like we were promised? It wouldn't even be that hard to do..

[Tank207]

I was pretty happy with the party... although it sucks that you get Tali so late in the game, and she has next to no dialogue after Rannoch. I did want Kasumi back though.

I was also kind of annoyed that my attempted romance with Samara was never brought up. I did that specifically to see if Samara acts differently towards Shepard, but nothing came of it. I was expecting that to have some significance in Mass Effect 3.

Oh... and a Batarian. I would have liked to actually learn more about the Batarians in the series. That and it would be hilarious how he and Javik would interact. Beeing the only crewmembers with four eyes and all. I can just imagine walking in on them having a starting contest in the lounge.

Modifié par Tank207, 01 avril 2012 - 08:00 .

[DevilBeast]

o Ventus wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

It doesn't make the reasons given any less retarded.

Jack - "I need to go teach some biotic kids off-screen"

Miranda - Loyalty mission 2.0

Kasumi - "I don't feel like tagging along this time"

Samara - Something, something, about her code (Makes zero sense)

At least Mordin, Legion, Thane, and Zaeed's reasons contain some semblence of reason. Mordin with the genophage cure, he can't really afford to be running and gunning. Legion was hooked up to the Reaper signal transmitter. Zaeed is digging up his old contact network, and Thane is dying.

I think most of the ME2 squadmates "missions" and changes in ME3 made sense.

Jack - When we first meet Jack she has deep trust issues and even confides herself to the bowel of the ship just to avoid the rest of the crew. And how can you blaim her?? She was abducted at a very young age and subjected to cruel experiments. And when she finally broke free from that, she only experienced being abused and used by basically everyone she ever met.
Now, in ME3 she has found something to actually fight for: The students at Grissom Academy. They trust her to protect them, to help guide them through this crisis, and she in turn cares for them and will do everything in her power to protect them. 
Jack actually evolves into a person that isn´t just a void filled with hate and rage.

 Miranda - Yes, her mission looks alot like her loyalty mission in ME2, and it doesn´t surprise me at all. Yes, she saves her sister from her father but for how long?? We didn´t get to confront the bastard and someone might actually wonder how long Oriana actually will be safe. Especially considering Miranda´s later betrayal of TIM.
So, to me that part of Mirianda´s story wasn´t finished yet, and I thought it only logical that it would be continued in ME3.

Kasumi - Kasumi is the type of person who focuses on her own needs before everyone elses. It doesn´t mean necerssarily that she never cares about others only that her desires and wishes are always more important to her than anyone elses. Remember that Kasumi was hired by Cerberus and they even sweetened the deal by promising Shepard to help her out in retrieving Keji´s greybox. She didn´t join because she wanted to save the galaxy from the Collectors, she did it because the reward was simply too tempting to ignore.
So, her only wanting to help on the Crucible, because of the rewards she might get in form of unique technology doesn´t seem very surprising to me.

Samara - Samara is a justicar, and as we already know from ME2 the code of the justicar is everything to her.
Now, I know some, if not many, have difficulty understanding why Samara adheres so rigidly to this code, and if they don´t get in ME2 then they probably won´t in ME3 either. But for those who do it shouldn´t seem to surprising that she couldn´t join up with Shepard: According to Samara the code dictates that she should be where she is most needed against the reapers which is, in her mind, at the frontlines. And since Shepard spend most of the time spec ops. her place wouldn´t be by Shepard´s side. 

Now I usually don´t write this long paragraphs. Especially not when I´m tired. So, please forgive me if most of it seem to incoherent (spelling and gramma wise).    

Modifié par DevilBeast, 01 avril 2012 - 09:15 .

[Bleachrude]

I thought jack got the most development of the ME2 squadmates between Grissom and the Citadel. Zaeed got shortchanged I thought for example, but Jack?

The way those kids looked up to her and the way she was all mama bear about it..I mean, I thought it was the most natural character development for a ME2 squadmate...

I really can't see her getting back to the Normandy...now zaeed ad Jacob got the bad character treatment IMO.

[AntonioA9011]

Frocharocha wrote...

 I was hopping to fight alongside Wrex, Grunt, Thane and Legion again. But no, and i ask why. Mass Effect 2 had a much better number of squadmates than ME3. C'mon, even Dragon Age 2 have more companions than ME3 (11, while ME3 has only 8). Anybody that wasn't just me was also expecting to ME3 have like 30 squadmates? Yeah, it was possible if Bioware wished to take all ME2 squadmates, ME1 squadmates an other storyline characters and put them on your squad. Wrex i miss you....

[Frocharocha]

DevilBeast wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

It doesn't make the reasons given any less retarded.

Jack - "I need to go teach some biotic kids off-screen"

Miranda - Loyalty mission 2.0

Kasumi - "I don't feel like tagging along this time"

Samara - Something, something, about her code (Makes zero sense)

At least Mordin, Legion, Thane, and Zaeed's reasons contain some semblence of reason. Mordin with the genophage cure, he can't really afford to be running and gunning. Legion was hooked up to the Reaper signal transmitter. Zaeed is digging up his old contact network, and Thane is dying.

I think most of the ME2 squadmates "missions" and changes in ME3 made sense.

Jack - When we first meet Jack she has deep trust issues and even confides herself to the bowel of the ship just to avoid the rest of the crew. And how can you blaim her?? She was abducted at a very young age and subjected to cruel experiments. And when she finally broke free from that, she only experienced being abused and used by basically everyone she ever met.
Now, in ME3 she has found something to actually fight for: The students at Grissom Academy. They trust her to protect them, to help guide them through this crisis, and she in turn cares for them and will do everything in her power to protect them. 
Jack actually evolves into a person that isn´t just a void filled with hate and rage.

 Miranda - Yes, her mission looks alot like her loyalty mission in ME2, and it doesn´t surprise me at all. Yes, she saves her sister from her father but for how long?? We didn´t get to confront the bastard and someone might actually wonder how long Oriana actually will be safe. Especially considering Miranda´s later betrayal of TIM.
So, to me that part of Mirianda´s story wasn´t finished yet, and I thought it only logical that it would be continued in ME3.

Kasumi - Kasumi is the type of person who focuses on her own needs before everyone elses. It doesn´t mean necerssarily that she never cares about others only that her desires and wishes are always more important to her than anyone elses. Remember that Kasumi was hired by Cerberus and they even sweetened the deal by promising Shepard to help her out in retrieving Keji´s greybox. She didn´t join because she wanted to save the galaxy from the Collectors, she did it because the reward was simply too tempting to ignore.
So, her only wanting to help on the Crucible, because of the rewards she might get in form of unique technology doesn´t seem very surprising to me.

Samara - Samara is a justicar, and as we already know from ME2 the code of the justicar is everything to her.
Now, I know some, if not many, have difficulty understanding why Samara adheres so rigidly to this code, and if they don´t get in ME2 then they probably won´t in ME3 either. But for those who do it shouldn´t seem to surprising that she couldn´t join up with Shepard: According to Samara the code dictates that she should be where she is most needed against the reapers which is, in her mind, at the frontlines. And since Shepard spend most of the time spec ops. her place wouldn´t be by Shepard´s side. 

Now I usually don´t write this long paragraphs. Especially not when I´m tired. So, please forgive me if most of it seem to incoherent (spelling and gramma wise).    

Actually, All of them asks for Shepard a chance to join him and fight agaisn't the Reapers. They even become a war asset, homever, how they aren't squadmates? That doesn't make sense at all.So, i saved my entire squad at ME 2 for almost nothing. Thane would make sense, since he is dying, he wouldn't be able to help Shepard at all. But there's probaly more than one way to cure him at ME3 and he probaly could help Shepard too.

[DevilBeast]

Frocharocha wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

It doesn't make the reasons given any less retarded.

Jack - "I need to go teach some biotic kids off-screen"

Miranda - Loyalty mission 2.0

Kasumi - "I don't feel like tagging along this time"

Samara - Something, something, about her code (Makes zero sense)

At least Mordin, Legion, Thane, and Zaeed's reasons contain some semblence of reason. Mordin with the genophage cure, he can't really afford to be running and gunning. Legion was hooked up to the Reaper signal transmitter. Zaeed is digging up his old contact network, and Thane is dying.

I think most of the ME2 squadmates "missions" and changes in ME3 made sense.

Jack - When we first meet Jack she has deep trust issues and even confides herself to the bowel of the ship just to avoid the rest of the crew. And how can you blaim her?? She was abducted at a very young age and subjected to cruel experiments. And when she finally broke free from that, she only experienced being abused and used by basically everyone she ever met.
Now, in ME3 she has found something to actually fight for: The students at Grissom Academy. They trust her to protect them, to help guide them through this crisis, and she in turn cares for them and will do everything in her power to protect them. 
Jack actually evolves into a person that isn´t just a void filled with hate and rage.

 Miranda - Yes, her mission looks alot like her loyalty mission in ME2, and it doesn´t surprise me at all. Yes, she saves her sister from her father but for how long?? We didn´t get to confront the bastard and someone might actually wonder how long Oriana actually will be safe. Especially considering Miranda´s later betrayal of TIM.
So, to me that part of Mirianda´s story wasn´t finished yet, and I thought it only logical that it would be continued in ME3.

Kasumi - Kasumi is the type of person who focuses on her own needs before everyone elses. It doesn´t mean necerssarily that she never cares about others only that her desires and wishes are always more important to her than anyone elses. Remember that Kasumi was hired by Cerberus and they even sweetened the deal by promising Shepard to help her out in retrieving Keji´s greybox. She didn´t join because she wanted to save the galaxy from the Collectors, she did it because the reward was simply too tempting to ignore.
So, her only wanting to help on the Crucible, because of the rewards she might get in form of unique technology doesn´t seem very surprising to me.

Samara - Samara is a justicar, and as we already know from ME2 the code of the justicar is everything to her.
Now, I know some, if not many, have difficulty understanding why Samara adheres so rigidly to this code, and if they don´t get in ME2 then they probably won´t in ME3 either. But for those who do it shouldn´t seem to surprising that she couldn´t join up with Shepard: According to Samara the code dictates that she should be where she is most needed against the reapers which is, in her mind, at the frontlines. And since Shepard spend most of the time spec ops. her place wouldn´t be by Shepard´s side. 

Now I usually don´t write this long paragraphs. Especially not when I´m tired. So, please forgive me if most of it seem to incoherent (spelling and gramma wise).    

Actually, All of them asks for Shepard a chance to join him and fight agaisn't the Reapers. They even become a war asset, homever, how they aren't squadmates? That doesn't make sense at all.So, i saved my entire squad at ME 2 for almost nothing. Thane would make sense, since he is dying, he wouldn't be able to help Shepard at all. But there's probaly more than one way to cure him at ME3 and he probaly could help Shepard too.

Kasumi doesn´t ask for a chance to join Shepard.
Anyway, if ME3 only had to rely on a squad comprised mostly by the squadmembers from ME2 then it would leave out those who killed off most their squad in ME2.
Again, it´s very to difficult to satisfy everyone I can perfectly understand why many feel that the ME2 characters were left out in ME3. But for me personally, the number and nature of the squad suited me fine, and I also believe most of the squadmembers from ME2 received a good, albeit short, story in ME3. 

[BatmanPWNS]

Wrex/Wreav, Mordin and Legion could have easily been temporary squadmates. Bioware being lazy again.

[Thighs_of_thor]

I was expecting all the me2 squadmates to be temporary squadmates for their mission, that would have been rad as hell.

[xcomcmdr]

JayneD wrote...

Liara, Garrus and Tali were all the squad mates I ever needed.

Me too.

But still the old squadmates from ME 2 were kind of disappointing in ME 3.. The worst disappointment is when the player previously romanced Jacob, I believe.

[Mr.House]

I prefer the smaller number in ME and ME3, and I prefer the squad in ME and ME3. Out of 12 squadmates in ME2, I only liked and used...5 out of 12. That's bad.

[Mikeuicus]

The new squad is a matter of necessity. Liara has to be there: you need a Biotic. Ashley or Kaidan may or may not be dead, so their contributory roles are irrelevant. James is there because you need a tanky face pwner. EDI is there because you need a tech character, and another friendly face (cough, voice) is better than trying to introduce yet another new character. Tali and Garrus are characters who are probably more likely to be alive for most people since fans have an attachment to them, plus they were in Mass Effect 1 as well as 2, so their inclusion makes sense...but you can't count on them being alive, hence James and EDI.

[PhotonMaze]

I agree. I wanted Thane and Legion in my party so badly. I just wished they had atleast let you pick the squad that came with you.

[PhotonMaze]

DevilBeast wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

wathc me tyep wrote...

ME2 squadmates have their own business to attend to. It's not only about you or Shepard.

And frankly there were too many squadmates in ME2.

I second that.

It doesn't make the reasons given any less retarded.

Jack - "I need to go teach some biotic kids off-screen"

Miranda - Loyalty mission 2.0

Kasumi - "I don't feel like tagging along this time"

Samara - Something, something, about her code (Makes zero sense)

At least Mordin, Legion, Thane, and Zaeed's reasons contain some semblence of reason. Mordin with the genophage cure, he can't really afford to be running and gunning. Legion was hooked up to the Reaper signal transmitter. Zaeed is digging up his old contact network, and Thane is dying.

I think most of the ME2 squadmates "missions" and changes in ME3 made sense.

Jack - When we first meet Jack she has deep trust issues and even confides herself to the bowel of the ship just to avoid the rest of the crew. And how can you blaim her?? She was abducted at a very young age and subjected to cruel experiments. And when she finally broke free from that, she only experienced being abused and used by basically everyone she ever met.
Now, in ME3 she has found something to actually fight for: The students at Grissom Academy. They trust her to protect them, to help guide them through this crisis, and she in turn cares for them and will do everything in her power to protect them. 
Jack actually evolves into a person that isn´t just a void filled with hate and rage.

 Miranda - Yes, her mission looks alot like her loyalty mission in ME2, and it doesn´t surprise me at all. Yes, she saves her sister from her father but for how long?? We didn´t get to confront the bastard and someone might actually wonder how long Oriana actually will be safe. Especially considering Miranda´s later betrayal of TIM.
So, to me that part of Mirianda´s story wasn´t finished yet, and I thought it only logical that it would be continued in ME3.

Kasumi - Kasumi is the type of person who focuses on her own needs before everyone elses. It doesn´t mean necerssarily that she never cares about others only that her desires and wishes are always more important to her than anyone elses. Remember that Kasumi was hired by Cerberus and they even sweetened the deal by promising Shepard to help her out in retrieving Keji´s greybox. She didn´t join because she wanted to save the galaxy from the Collectors, she did it because the reward was simply too tempting to ignore.
So, her only wanting to help on the Crucible, because of the rewards she might get in form of unique technology doesn´t seem very surprising to me.

Samara - Samara is a justicar, and as we already know from ME2 the code of the justicar is everything to her.
Now, I know some, if not many, have difficulty understanding why Samara adheres so rigidly to this code, and if they don´t get in ME2 then they probably won´t in ME3 either. But for those who do it shouldn´t seem to surprising that she couldn´t join up with Shepard: According to Samara the code dictates that she should be where she is most needed against the reapers which is, in her mind, at the frontlines. And since Shepard spend most of the time spec ops. her place wouldn´t be by Shepard´s side. 

Now I usually don´t write this long paragraphs. Especially not when I´m tired. So, please forgive me if most of it seem to incoherent (spelling and gramma wise).    

No one is saying that it doesn't make sense. It would just be nice to have the choice to recruit all the squadmates that we want to join our crew.