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[Dude_in_the_Room]

phouria wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

phouria wrote...

Saruya wrote...

Paying to get a definitive ending to a game sets a VERY dangerous precedent.

I don't think we want to be starting down that path, for all our sakes.


And no, I would NOT pay for a DLC'd in ending. In fact if they do release ending DLC, and charge for it (regardless of what other content it brings), then Bioware will have permanently lost one of their oldest and most loyal customers.

asking for a change in the ending is ALSO a dangerous precedent.

Really?  Is there something worse than them saying "No" that can happen?

if they said 'yes' then it will be.

This isn't new.  There have been comic books and movies with multiple endings.  Sure, it was an "artistic" choice, but denying that pleasing everyone in the process had no impact on the decision is just being stubborn.

[Corkus LeBlunth IV]

No.

Because they will not release "New Ending" dlc.

[frag971]

No. As far as i see this whole mess is cause by producers being pushed by investors to launch the game so they had to do the current ending. I don't blame the actual developers, just the corporation as a whole for making that move. It still doesn't justify it, and as a responsible consumer, the only way to realy get to them is through your wallet.

[Ericus]

I'd pay for new/clarified ending DLC, no question. Whether I buy additional DLC might depend on the quality of the revised ending.

[Oilking72]

Nothing's changed for me. I'll be buying any content they release.

[Il Divo]

I'm willing to, assuming it looks like something I would want.

[BlacJAC74]

These threads don't prove anything other than people stating they won't buy any more dlc when everyone with half a brain knows they'll be throwing their money come the release.

It was like DA2. Many people saying they were finished with the series and weren't buying the DLC, yet when dlc was released, they were on the forums giving their opinions on the dlc after buying it.

Jot down a user name, one of the nay sayers, then come back when the dlc is released and i can guarantee you they'll be posting their opinions on the dlc after buying it.

It's the same all the time.

[Blackmind1]

 If it's a decent sized package with a nice amount of content, then I don't see why not. You can tell by now that none of this was pre-planned, they are literally in panic mode. If what they deliver is worth the money, then it gets it.

I'm not about to start screaming "FREE" when we already got a complete ending, it just wasn't to our liking. You don't walk into a cinema and demand they play the directors original ending because you expected better. You buy the directors cut. It happens with cinema, film and ****, so I don't see why it can't be excused when it happens to a videogame.

Besides, I would never buy the ending to any other game ever. Bioware would be the only ones that could pull this kind of thing off, to me. Even then, they would be wise to never try it again. I simply want to finish the story, and go back to enjoying my favourite gaming Sci-Fi series as if this never happened. Hopefully they'll fix themselves up after this mess.

Modifié par Blackmind1, 01 avril 2012 - 11:11 .

[bigfootedfred]

Blackmind1 wrote...

 If it's a decent sized package with a nice amount of content, then I don't see why not. You can tell by now that none of this was pre-planned, they are literally in panic mode. If what they deliver is worth the money, then it gets it.

I'm not about to start screaming "FREE" when we already got a complete ending, it just wasn't to our liking. You don't walk into a cinema and demand they play the directors original ending because you expected better. You buy the directors cut. It happens with cinema, film and ****, so I don't see why it can't be excused when it happens to a videogame.

you cant honestly believe that was the real intended ending.
The writing team do a great job till what...the last 10 minutes when they forget where everyone and everything in the entire game is, teleport people from the ground to the normandy, which for some reason has left the ultimate battle to fly away somewhere...

Its just nonsense. either the writing team collectively went demeted, or that was NOT THE ENDING.
They are going to SELL YOU THE ENDING.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Blackmind1]

Hello Man wrote...

Blackmind1 wrote...

 If it's a decent sized package with a nice amount of content, then I don't see why not. You can tell by now that none of this was pre-planned, they are literally in panic mode. If what they deliver is worth the money, then it gets it.

I'm not about to start screaming "FREE" when we already got a complete ending, it just wasn't to our liking. You don't walk into a cinema and demand they play the directors original ending because you expected better. You buy the directors cut. It happens with cinema, film and ****, so I don't see why it can't be excused when it happens to a videogame.

Directors cut for Mass Effect could be awsome. Only seen one game do that. The Witcher

Exactly. Everyone loved The Witcher, and they bought it again when that version got released, even though the game itself was completely satisfactory. If Bioware releases an upgrade that puts everything back in that EA made them cut, as well as addressing all of our concerns, I don't think it would be a bad thing. The only question then would be a question of price, though.

[Grimwick]

Yes for two reasons:
1) I'm absolutely desperate for a decent ending and I'd pay good money for that! (sad I know)
2) I think if we want Bioware to spend the time to remake the game they need some money for the time spent making the ending, even if they should have made it originally

[Blackmind1]

bigfootedfred wrote...

Blackmind1 wrote...

 If it's a decent sized package with a nice amount of content, then I don't see why not. You can tell by now that none of this was pre-planned, they are literally in panic mode. If what they deliver is worth the money, then it gets it.

I'm not about to start screaming "FREE" when we already got a complete ending, it just wasn't to our liking. You don't walk into a cinema and demand they play the directors original ending because you expected better. You buy the directors cut. It happens with cinema, film and ****, so I don't see why it can't be excused when it happens to a videogame.

you cant honestly believe that was the real intended ending.
The writing team do a great job till what...the last 10 minutes when they forget where everyone and everything in the entire game is, teleport people from the ground to the normandy, which for some reason has left the ultimate battle to fly away somewhere...

Its just nonsense. either the writing team collectively went demeted, or that was NOT THE ENDING.
They are going to SELL YOU THE ENDING.

www.youtube.com/watch

No, they're not. Stop with the conspiracies already, they're dumb. I've been in this industry for a very, very long time, and I know a mistake when I see one. This is all due to EA putting them on a strict 2 year deadline that they couldn't meet. Hell, they were still recording Martin Sheen's lines in November, even though the game should have finished development fully by January.

The ending was simply rushed, you need to accept that fact. Believe me, there have been far worse endings throughout gaming than this one. Sure, it was jarring, but not absolutely terrible, just evidently rushed.

Modifié par Blackmind1, 01 avril 2012 - 11:10 .

[vI Demon Iv]

I would be incredibly hard pressed to say yes, so I will have to say no.
I can't see myself giving another dime to a company that released a game with one of the key selling points, since the first, completely broken (face import) and have yet to fix it.
With no apology given in words, free, significant, DLC and a written apology would have to be given to every fan for me to ever consider buying anything BioWare again.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Blackmind1 wrote...

bigfootedfred wrote...

Blackmind1 wrote...

 If it's a decent sized package with a nice amount of content, then I don't see why not. You can tell by now that none of this was pre-planned, they are literally in panic mode. If what they deliver is worth the money, then it gets it.

I'm not about to start screaming "FREE" when we already got a complete ending, it just wasn't to our liking. You don't walk into a cinema and demand they play the directors original ending because you expected better. You buy the directors cut. It happens with cinema, film and ****, so I don't see why it can't be excused when it happens to a videogame.

you cant honestly believe that was the real intended ending.
The writing team do a great job till what...the last 10 minutes when they forget where everyone and everything in the entire game is, teleport people from the ground to the normandy, which for some reason has left the ultimate battle to fly away somewhere...

Its just nonsense. either the writing team collectively went demeted, or that was NOT THE ENDING.
They are going to SELL YOU THE ENDING.

www.youtube.com/watch

No, they're not. Stop with the conspiracies already, they're dumb. I've been in this industry for a very, very long time, and I know a mistake when I see one. This is all due to EA putting them on a strict 2 year deadline that they couldn't meet. Hell, they were still recording Martin Sheen's lines in November, even though the game should have finished development fully by January.

The ending was simply rushed, you need to accept that fact. Believe me, there have been far worse endings throughout gaming than this one. Sure, it was jarring, but not absolutely terrible, just evidently rushed.

What you're saying is no better.  They rushed and failed......so we have to PAY MORE....to get what was suppose to be there.

What you're saying is even worse.

[Sageofnightmares]

I'd buy it in a heart beat. Mass Effect has always been my favorite sci-fi saga out there, and I can't let it end like this. 

Modifié par Sageofnightmares, 01 avril 2012 - 11:31 .

[bigfootedfred]

Blackmind1 wrote...

bigfootedfred wrote...

you cant honestly believe that was the real intended ending.
The writing team do a great job till what...the last 10 minutes when they forget where everyone and everything in the entire game is, teleport people from the ground to the normandy, which for some reason has left the ultimate battle to fly away somewhere...

Its just nonsense. either the writing team collectively went demeted, or that was NOT THE ENDING.
They are going to SELL YOU THE ENDING.

www.youtube.com/watch

No, they're not. Stop with the conspiracies already, they're dumb. I've been in this industry for a very, very long time, and I know a mistake when I see one. This is all due to EA putting them on a strict 2 year deadline that they couldn't meet. Hell, they were still recording Martin Sheen's lines in November, even though the game should have finished development fully by January.

The ending was simply rushed, you need to accept that fact. Believe me, there have been far worse endings throughout gaming than this one. Sure, it was jarring, but not absolutely terrible, just evidently rushed.

Sorry i dont buy it.
These writers did 80+ hours of gameplay, then just 'forgot' where everyone was in the last 10 minutes?
EA strategy is to sell paid DLC. there was day one DLC and now theres an ending DLC.

Nothing about the last 10 minutes makes any sense what so ever unless its just nonsense.
Why would the writers just decide ....er...yeah have the normandy just suddenly be over here, and the people you had on the ground are...yeah on the normandy. there we go. Teleportation and space magics!

You can call it a 'conspiracy theory' all you like, but saying the ending is 'rushed' is just a cop out.
being made to rush, does not mean you simply throw everything out the window and do whatever hell you want.
If there was an army of flying hell kittens that wiped out the reapers and they said, ok thats it then.
I suppose you would just put that down to being 'rushed'...

[Mr. Sean]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
What you're saying is no better.  They rushed and failed......so we have to PAY MORE....to get what was suppose to be there.

What you're saying is even worse.

Well no is saying we have to pay for any ending dlc yet so maybe we should calm down for a bit until they announce something. Even if they do want to charge something, the way I see it, I'm already in this series at least close to $300 when you include special editions and dlc. If it takes an extra 5 or 10 clams to see the real conclusion, so be it.

Modifié par Mr. Sean, 01 avril 2012 - 11:29 .

[Suspire]

I've bought a stupid alternate outfit (oops, well it was for Garrus), I've bought a bunch of games I never even played on Steam, so yes I can buy a better ending. Though their new games I'll be buying used only.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Mr. Sean wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
What you're saying is no better.  They rushed and failed......so we have to PAY MORE....to get what was suppose to be there.

What you're saying is even worse.

Well no is saying we have to pay for any ending dlc yet so maybe we should calm down for a bit until they announce something. Even if they do want to charge something, the way I see it, I'm already in this series at least close to $300 when you include special editions and dlc. If it takes an extra 5 or 10 clams to see the real conclusion, so be it.

If ppl didn't provoke thought pre incident then things would be pretty bad.

In any case....this is the sort of thing manipulation is made of.

[QwertyMusicMan]

Only after reading the Retake movement's reactions.

[clipped_wolf]

If I had to, I would pay to get the ending fixed. However, it would make me reconsider supporting EA by buying the next bit of DLC or game they come out with.

[Zmidponk]

I've yet to even start single-player thanks to the face import bug, but, if the current ending is as bad as it's reputed to be, HELL NO. I would download it as a free DLC/patch, or not at all. Otherwise, I'd be rewarding EA/Bioware for giving me a ******-poor ending, then expecting me to pay for a decent one.

[Mr. Sean]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
If ppl didn't provoke thought pre incident then things would be pretty bad.

In any case....this is the sort of thing manipulation is made of.

I don't know, maybe its just not im my nature to automatically assume the worst. Its just, at least in my opinion, there are plenty of real and legitimate things to rake Bioware and EA over the coals for. It seems senseless to get worked up over something that may not happen anyway. Not that I really think they won't charge for ending dlc. I fully expect them to and when they do, people will have the right to be pissed off about it.

But you're right about one thing, this IS the sort of thing manipulation is made of. It does stink. I'll reserve judgement until I see all the facts.