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[Bestyj669]

Not really ME3 related since we can't even install the thing on our HDD's but I was curious ... Maybe someone already tried that ... So here goes:

Has anyone tried putting SSD drive into ps3? If "yes" - is the performance easy enough to notice (as in - is it fast enough to justify the extra costs)

Cheers, 

Modifié par Bestyj669, 03 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[starscreamerx31]

There was a story on kotaku of some one putting a raptor with 10,000 rpm in his ps3 and played gran turismo. It lowered loading for that game drastically it was almost night an day. Ill try and find the segment later and repost later. They said it was worth it but really expensive.

[starscreamerx31]

Check this out

http://www.eurogamer...ps3-performance

[starscreamerx31]

Bump cause i would love to know if anyone out their with an ssd hard drive can confirm if their is an improvement on me3

[Ajx-]

I haven't tried personally but something to keep in mind; ss drives drawback is how many times content can be writen to the hd. With autosaving constantly writing to hd among other things, the wear and tear could actually make you more likely to go through a solid state faster...

[Bestyj669]

starscreamerx31 wrote...

Check this out

http://www.eurogamer...ps3-performance

Thanks for the link. It pretty much confirms what I though might be true - SSD is a bit of an overkill for fairly old ps3 hardware.

I'm still very curious to see it "in real life" though especially with digital downloads instead of blu ray...

[starscreamerx31]

Yeah ive highly concidered it myself its just the cost that holds me back as of right now.

[Bestyj669]

Yep. For me it would be around 140£ (120gb)... Brand new 160gb ps3 is around 180ish ...

10k rpm velociraptor might be a good idea though.

[kochira]

The problem with using an SSD in your PS3 is that file deletion in SSDs requires some additional processing in order to prevent sequential writes on later data. Sequential ordering of data blocks in SSD media causes pretty bad performance degradation. TRIM support addresses this, but the PS3 does not have TRIM support.

This means that an SSD will, when it is fresh, perform fantastically in your PS3. But overtime its performance will degrade. I have seen SSDs used on systems with TRIM perform up to 5x slower than a 7400 RPM HD.

If you never ever ever delete stuff off your PS3 then you might be okay. But if you want to treat it like a normal HD and remove things like expired video rentals, old games, old save or patch data, then you should not switch to SSD.

I'm also not certain if the PS3 does any kind of temporary file creation/removal during operation, but if it does, then this will automatically cause degradation over time as well.

Really it's probably not a good idea. Wait for the Orbis and hope Sony implements TRIM support.

[Lyne Holden]

This is the equivalent of putting a jet engine exhaust port on a Volkswagen Beetle.
The PS3 is SATA 1.5 and has a max transfer rate of 1.5 GBs which is only a wee bit faster than the stock HDD. - that's as fast as it can go.

Putting a high end HDD/SSD in there is going to have a very nominal and inconsistent effect on actual game play quality.

[Gezr]

A SATA 300 HDD would have the potential to saturate the bus though, even if it runs in SATA 150 compatibility mode, since decent SATA 300 HDDs can usually reach 180MB/s.

The best bet, in my opinion at least, would be a hybrid HDD. Its ssd part is handled by the drive controller, so it should manage trim commands etc, and still give a boost to most (installable) games.

[Bestyj669]

I never tried to say that SSD is "be all, end all" for ps3. I am also fully aware that ps3 hasn't got the hardware to use all the potential SSDs can give. I more or less know all the numbers and what they mean (I've been dealing with electronics for about 15 years now, 7 of those years I've done that for a living).

However ...

Gezr wrote...
A SATA 300 HDD would have the potential to saturate the bus though, even if it runs in SATA 150 compatibility mode, since decent SATA 300 HDDs can usually reach 180MB/s.

Standard 160gb drive (Toshiba MK1665GSX, I had it with both of my slims so I'm just going to assume that is what they used all over the world) is, from what I can find, a SATA 300. 

But nevermind - the theory (some of it even backed up by research): 

* SSD will leave the HDD far far behind when it comes to digital installs.
* SSD should also be a bit quicker with the "Disc to Drive" installs.
* Loading times for SSDs will be shorter

Also, not sure if XMB uses something along the lines of swap partitions, but if it does there's some potential performance increase. (Beth tried similar with Skyrim to "get around" ps3s memory issues...)

Anyhow, there must be someone who already tried that ...

(I do agree that hybrid/"half-breed" is quite possibly the best performance to cost option at this very moment)
[And yes I also agree that SSD might be a bit of an overkill]
{And to end ... Yes I do realise that swapping the drive will not take ps3 anywhere near a semi-decent gaming pc, performance-wise.}

Modifié par Bestyj669, 05 avril 2012 - 07:52 .

[Sacrificial Bias]

Bump for this.

I suspect my PS3 hard drive is dying and I'm looking to upgrade. At times I find ME3 MP to be a bit laggy and long on the loading times. Kind of wondering if upgrading would help this any. Also starting to see that annoying yellow light after a couple of hours of play.

The physical installation itself seems simple enough. The question is, which drive is compatible and which should I get? Kinda hoping to keep this one under $200.

[MegaSovereign]

I want one of those HDD/SSD hybrids. My 160 GB HDD is filling up so I need to upgrade pretty soon.

[Gezr]

At the moment, only Seagate has a couple of models availlable, in 500 & 750 GB versions.

http://www.seagate.c...ntus-xt-hybrid/

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

I would say to not swap for an HDD that is more than 7200 rpm, standard PS3 ones are 5400.
I heard that with 10000rpm PS3 goes slower since it's harder for PS3 to retrieve the data.
I'm very fine with a 500GB Western Digital, I ever had big problems, not even with Skyrim

[Jayson619]

I did what was mentioned: backup, reformat and reinstall all over again.

[Gezr]

TrveOmegaSlayer wrote...

I would say to not swap for an HDD that is more than 7200 rpm, standard PS3 ones are 5400.
I heard that with 10000rpm PS3 goes slower since it's harder for PS3 to retrieve the data.
I'm very fine with a 500GB Western Digital, I ever had big problems, not even with Skyrim

Strange, when I took out the stock 80GB hdd from mine (one of the last fat model revision sold in EU), the label wrote 7200rpm.

About 10k rpm drives, there's a reason WD sells their latest 2.5" Velociraptor with a huge 3.5" heatsink mount. Using it without the heatsink can end up cooking your PS3 at some point, due to the temps it reaches.

[Sacrificial Bias]

You know, I did see this curious docking station for HDDs on eBay. You can supposedly connect it to your PS3 through a USB cable. Can't say how well it actually works though.

I do remember hearing about a guy connecting the Velociraptor to his PS3 and saw greatly improved loading times on Grand Turismo.