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Does anyone else feel sorry for Dragon Age III?


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I had little interest in DA2 when info started coming out, then I stupidly bought into the hype a couple days before it came out when up till then I wasn't going to get it. Got it expecting a good game and it was much worse than I originally thought it would be so I have no interest in DA3. Now with the ME3 endings I'm positive I won't be getting DA3 unless after a couple weeks almost all players are giving it amazing reviews.

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atum wrote...

Jarcander wrote...
- riddiculous waves of enemies spawning out of nowhere


I forgot about that.  It became even more annoying when they nerfed one-shotting stuff with DW Rouges.  It was one of the ways to rush through all those waves a bit more quickly.

All I could think was why in the hell would they nerf-patch a single player game?


Well, they did nerf the hell out of DA:O as well. First they nerf difficulty by making it easier (didn't need that) and then some of my favourite spells, like crushing prison.

The bodycount Hawke accumulates on the streets of... that city which I try to forget... is indeed awe inspiring as it is horrible.

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Jarcander wrote...

But... but... we don't actually know anything about Dragon Age 3 since they haven't given us any information of it, so how can we say it'll suck?

Oh fine, I'll stop trying to bring reason onto this forum. Let them wild speculations continue...


I don't know what the game will be like.I do know I won't trust any of the hype from BW.So I will not pre order.I will wait.

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All they need to do to win back my trust is to make a good game that adequately lives up to Dragon Age: Origins. I want the same length, lore, attention to detail, number of options, character customisation and level of consequence that we got in that game.

Unlike a number of people, I had no problem with the move to a voiced protagonist or the art style changes in DA2. What was unacceptable was the obvious rushed nature of the entire game, the sense that they were half-assing and simplifying everything (look at the descriptions on even minor loot in DA:O compared with the multitude of loot with names like "ring" and "boots" in DA2). The main plot didn't flow very well either, and the loss of the isometric camera and the addition of endless wave spawns were dire mistakes.

There's nothing there that can't be fixed. All they need is to learn their lessons from DA2 and spend significantly, significantly more time on DA3.


To add to this it was a bit odd they had a "junk/trash" section in the inventory.

One thing DA2 had that was kinda nice was the narration.   Generally I didnt mind some of the art style changes, or fast combat(loved that actually)  it was when it became too ninja-y that made it look cheesy.

Modifié par atum, 01 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


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Dragon Age III?
Who the hell cares. I want Dragon Age: Origins II


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

I would pre-order a game with that title in a heartbeat if they said it would use the Eclipse Engine.

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I would have, i was prepared to be optimistic despite Dragon age 2's copy and paste dungeons and the fact it was rushed, i feel the game did get some things right to be fair, though i felt it was a drop in quality overall .With mass effect 3 turning out how it did...well let's just say I'll see what happen's with this situation first. I wont pre-order though and like other's have said i will look at some user reviews first "definitely not mag reviews" i don't trust those at all.

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I hated DA:O with a passion and thought DA2 was a rushed B rate game. Thus, I have no reason to believe that DA3 will be something that I enjoy. TORtanic and ME3 have done nothing to increase my faith in Bioware either. Still, I'll keep an open mind and if it looks like they made a fantastic game then I will purchase it (not as a pre-order or day 1 mind you).

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Think DA2 did more harm for DA3 than ME3 did. Of course, I think a lot of people would be less willing to give Bioware a chance if they don't address ME3's ending in a way that satisfies most people. Speculation of course.

I'm hopeful DA3 makes a turn-around. Even if it turns out brilliant though, I suspect it won't get nearly a fraction of pre-orders that DA2 and ME3 did because of hype. What Bioware is really lacking right now is trust from their own customers, and this is due to their detachment of addressing customer concerns while pushing marketing out of proportions.

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LolaLei wrote...

Hm, I think I'll wait to hear a couple of player reviews before I consider buying it, just to be on the safe side.


Agreed, and like others said, it's not just because of ME3, DA2 did a good job of making people skeptical of DA3 as is.

Modifié par jonal11, 01 avril 2012 - 09:33 .


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atum wrote...

One thing DA2 had that was kinda nice was the narration.   Generally I didnt mind some of the art style changes, or fast combat(loved that actually)  it was when it became too ninja-y that made it look cheesy.


I would be so bold as to say, the story was Dragon Age 2's strong point. Varric (who is the narrator) is one of their (bioware's) better characters. I mean, it's like they took a page out of George Martin's books when they wrote DA2. Important characters dying left and right all story along. Initially I felt as if Bioware hated me when I looked at the story, but then I realized they were only harsh bacause they cared and wanted to make a memorable story. Too bad that didn't quite work out for them on their next games.

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It is hard for me to dismiss Bioware since they have given me so many great games over the years. But I am starting to find it hard to believe anything they say anymore. DA2 had 1 major flaw and that was the repetetive enviromenst, other than that I really enjoyed it. But the lies that they pushed on me with SWTOR, so many trailers that showed BS that was not in the game. And now they do something even worse with ME3.... I mean how can I really trust Bioware anymore?

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MingWolf wrote...

Think DA2 did more harm for DA3 than ME3 did. Of course, I think a lot of people would be less willing to give Bioware a chance if they don't address ME3's ending in a way that satisfies most people. Speculation of course.

I'm hopeful DA3 makes a turn-around. Even if it turns out brilliant though, I suspect it won't get nearly a fraction of pre-orders that DA2 and ME3 did because of hype. What Bioware is really lacking right now is trust from their own customers, and this is due to their detachment of addressing customer concerns while pushing marketing out of proportions.


SPECULATION?!

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 I won't pre-order, but I'll give it a chance if player reviews say the end is more satisfying than ME3's.

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I remember when I thought DA2's ending was the worst ever...

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Ill probably get it, but it wont be a CE this time, and if they botch their 3rd game in a row, im done.

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Bioware isn't getting another game purchase out of me. Never again.

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Feeling sorry for a Bioware game?


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Its like if Hitler had a kid. The child could be a very nice lad and grow up to be the best human ever, but you still wouldn't be his friend or play with him.

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I fail to see why people people think DA2 was a failure.

The only issue I had with it was the fact that they reused a lot of the same area's over and over, but willing to over look for the rest of the content.

Sure it didn't live up to the excitement of DA:O, but sequels very rarely do.

If anything, the only other issue I have is they should have dealt more with the darkspawn.
However the whole Mage Vs. Chantry thing was cool too. (Granted I only ever played as a mage, maybe less cool if playing as other class?)

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Amialis666 wrote...

I fail to see why people people think DA2 was a failure.

The only issue I had with it was the fact that they reused a lot of the same area's over and over, but willing to over look for the rest of the content.

Sure it didn't live up to the excitement of DA:O, but sequels very rarely do.

If anything, the only other issue I have is they should have dealt more with the darkspawn.
However the whole Mage Vs. Chantry thing was cool too. (Granted I only ever played as a mage, maybe less cool if playing as other class?)


Yeh reuse of the same fin dungeon all over the place was a big nono for me. I also didnt like the chars or char interaction in DA 2, compared to DA:O. Also the story wasnt "epic enough", and it was to partioned. But it wasnt a bad game, it just wasnt fantastic either. it was just ok.

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ghostbusters101 wrote...

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

Bioware is working so hard on the game and it may very well be a great game but thanks to Mass Effect 3's failure it may fail anyways.
We should be willing to give Bioware a chance.  Just because Mass Effect 3 sucked does not mean we should take it out on Dragon Age III, it might be what redeems Bioware afterall since we now all know for certain that the indoctrination theory is a load of crap.


This. No way will I buy DA3.



This again

#147
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yo ho ho

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Hmm, I forgot to mention "LACK OF MODDING TOOLS" on my DA2 hate list. It is actually quite significant if you look at the amount of free content that is available for DA:O just because it has modding tools. This is also one of the things that made Bioware's Neverwinter Nights great in its days.

And don't throw that "we have to sell DLC" on your customers faces, BW. Bethesda has already shown you how it's done.

Modifié par Jarcander, 01 avril 2012 - 09:55 .


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While I liked DA2 enough, it was hardly a stellar game and after the ME3 letdown. Well, BioWare lost their blind buy from me regardless of what game they release. If I hear immense fan praise, maybe I'll pick up DA3 but I can make do with my collection of awesome retro RPGs.

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Jarcander wrote...

Hmm, I forgot to mention "LACK OF MODDING TOOLS" on my DA2 hate list. It is actually quite significant if you look at the amount of free content that is available for DA:O just because it has modding tools. This is also one of the things that made Bioware's Neverwinter Nights great in its days.

If you have modding tools you can't sell weapon packs.

I swear, people just don't understand <_<



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