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Math does not add up; having major problems with Suicide Mission


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God_Emperor

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Hey folks,

I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on an issue I've been having at the endgame. I've already checked all of the survival guides/walkthroughs and can't find any reason for the issues I'm having.

In short, I'm losing characters at the endgame when I shouldn't be. This is my third playthrough from scratch of ME2, my first + game however so I don't know if this means anything and I'm playing veteran (Same as the time I got everyone out alive).

Basically the last time I finished the game I got the entire squad out of the suicide mission alive and got the No one left behind achivement. Unfortunately I hasn't played ME 2 in a long time so I had forgotten about the time limit to save the crew once they are abducted. I got Legion almost as soon as he is available because, well Legion is awesome, and wanted to use him as much as possible (Super cool to take him along to the flotilla mission). Naturally since I hadn't even done half of the loyalty missions, by the time I finished the entire crew was silly puddy when I reached them. So as much as it pained me to lose having Legion early on, I restarted the game with the same character in a + new game and then got Legion after all of the loyalty missions were finished, I even got to finish the Heretic base mission first then the crew was abducted, so I was able to jump after the crew right after their abduction.

Now I have no problems at all during the first 2/3s of the final mission. But when I go to the final fight I always lose 1 person from the team holding the line. The first time I lost Mordin so I restarted the suicide mission and got him on escort duty thus saving him but no matter which combination I try, I always lose a character and it is usually one of the heavy hitters like Grunt or Garrus. Depending on who I take with me to the final fight sometimes I will lose Legion but most of the combinations kill off Garrus or Grunt. 

I have all techs developed except the last shield upgrade for Shepard (Hard shields), everyone is loyal, Normandy fully upgraded. I used the same teams that I used when I got everyone out alive but it's not working.

When I got everyone out
Tech specialist: Kasumi
1st Team Leader: Miranda
Biotic specialist: Samara
2nd Team Leader: Jacob
Crew Escort: Zaeed

Current attempts:
Tech Specialist: Kasumi
1st Team Leader: Miranda
Biotic Specialist: Samara or Jack
2nd Team Leader: Garrus or Jacob
Crew Escort: Zaeed or Mordin

The only difference between my current game and the one I got everyone out alive is that the crew is alive when I get there now and they weren't when I did the previous game. Also my current LIs are open (Haven't chosen yet any character to be with: Miranda, Tali, Jack) so I get the scene with Ashley's picture before going through the Omega 4 relay. Other  than that I'm playing the mission identical to when I got everyone out alive and still lose somebody in the final third.

I read all about the math that calculates when all squad members live or die and I am above 2.0; usually between 2.1 and 2.5 for holding the line. I should be getting everyone out alive again yet still I lose a teammate. Is this an issue with the + game? It can't be the dumb LI not being resolved can it? Why am I losing the strongest sqaud members instead of Tali or Jack or anybody else?

Can anyone help? Thanks

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morguen87

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basically don't do anything with Zaeed, Garrus, or Grunt...they're the 3 most valuable defenders for holding the line.
Miranda and Jacob make good squad leaders, while someone squishy like Mordin makes for a good crew escort.

The rest depends....
What 2 party members are you taking with you at the end?

Modifié par morguen87, 01 avril 2012 - 10:45 .


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God_Emperor

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Hey morguen,

I've left all 3 (Zaeed, Grunt and Garrus) in holding the line and usually either Garrus or Grunt dies. Only when I take Garrus or Grunt with me does someone like Legion die.

I've tried various combinations:
Jack/Tali, Tali/Legion, Thane/Legion, Thane/Jack, Miranda/Garrus, Miranda/Legion, Garrus/Tali, Zaeed/Thane.

When the character gets killed usually the person that comes out giving the report to Shepard about holding the line is either Thane or Jack. One time I took both to see if that had a different outcome, Garrus gave me the report while Grunt was killed in the background. If I take Garrus and Miranda, Legion died.

All depends who I take with me. I only saw Mordin die once (He died the first time I tried the mission) so when I changed him to escort to save him, someone else dies. The one that dies the most is Grunt, then Garrus, then Legion (Only saw him die about 2 times in all of my attempts).

Thanks for the help.