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[Justin2k]

Tazzmission wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

bro even though i agree its very annoying about the retake movement but chill out though

spamming there threads will make you know different then them

I know man, but it's like every single thread is entitled whining now.  I miss how it was before.

[Metalunatic]

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

End of day, if you don't enjoy something, just go do something else.  Life is too short.

Yes, we understand you like the ending and defend Bioware's obvious mistakes concerning it. No need to post on every thread that criticises the game.

Most of the people in the Retake Movement continue to make their voices heard becouse they love the series and feel like it deserves a better ending, not becouse they hate it and want to troll here just to kill time.

Nothing will be done about it if we all just stay quiet.

Modifié par Metalunatic, 02 avril 2012 - 10:16 .

[Jazharah]

Nothing would make or break BioWare for me at the moment anymore.

What I do know is that after DA2 and now ME3, I'm not pre-ordering anything from them anymore and will wait until the price drops to half the original.

I'm sure I'll still like their games, but I refuse to continue paying top-dollar for lower-shelf products.

[Tazzmission]

Justin2k wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

bro even though i agree its very annoying about the retake movement but chill out though

spamming there threads will make you know different then them

I know man, but it's like every single thread is entitled whining now.  I miss how it was before.

same here

[Justin2k]

Metalunatic wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

End of day, if you don't enjoy something, just go do something else.  Life is too short.

Yes, we understand you like the ending and defend Bioware's obvious mistakes concerning it. No need to post on every thread that criticises the game.

Most of the people in the Retake Movement continue to make their voices heard becouse they love the series and feel like it deserves a better ending, not becouse they hate it and want to troll here just to kill time.

Nothing will be done about it if we all just stay quiet.

Unfortunately the Retake movement has been tainted.  You do realise that Bioware staff and ME voice actors and that probably hate you right?  Chobot's speech was an example, as has been some bioware twitters.  Some of you have been absolutely disgusting in the way you've done this.

I don't love the ending, nor do i accept there weren't mistakes.  That being said, it's not worth trolling a board for an entire month and that is exactly what you are doing.  Everything you guys post is negative so please stop pretending like you are a positive for the community because you guys have pretty much caused Bioware staff sleepless nights over a video game.

[Ekyri]

Break: Any sentence involving the word "multiplayer"

[Narby]

-Skorpious- wrote...

Make -

DLC that adds ADDITIONAL ENDINGS to ME3. Bonus points if the Earth mission is entirely rewritten to incorporate our accumulated war assets in a fashion similar to the suicide mission OR if the indoctrination theory is expanded upon.

Break -

DLC that simply clarifies the current endings without providing additional endings.

This

[The Interloper]

Make: Rewriting endings for better pacing, closure, options, and the factoring in our choices, party members, and war assets into a greatly expanded finale

Break: Any ending/updated ending without closure

[Lee T]

If Bioware steps up and make good games, better games, ambitious games with the actual resources in money and time for the staff to give form to those ambitions, then I'll buy those games.

However they already lost my trust and I will no longer preorder untill they win it again, I'll wait for user reviews in the meantime.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Make:
Keep the promise they did for ME3
Break:
Anything else, ME3 wasn't when I started being angry at Bioware (No DA:O ultimate edition localisation even if localised content already exist, no ultimate edition at all of the Mass Effects, Dragon Age 2, and now ME3), it just made the whole thing worse.

[Metalunatic]

Justin2k wrote...


Unfortunately the Retake movement has been tainted.  You do realise that Bioware staff and ME voice actors and that probably hate you right?  Chobot's speech was an example, as has been some bioware twitters.  Some of you have been absolutely disgusting in the way you've done this.

I don't love the ending, nor do i accept there weren't mistakes.  That being said, it's not worth trolling a board for an entire month and that is exactly what you are doing.  Everything you guys post is negative so please stop pretending like you are a positive for the community because you guys have pretty much caused Bioware staff sleepless nights over a video game.

Generalizing the whole movement as trolls, then? There goes the validity of your argument. I agree that there are people that won't voice their oppinions in a polite and constructive manner, but that's not true for most of the people who want the endings changed.

That said, I highly doubt that anyone working at Bioware are losing sleep about this situation. Criticism is something they have to expect and consider to improve further products.

No company deserves our utter loyalty.

[Wynne]

Domber121 wrote...

After the last few years some BioWare fans, like myself, might have lost some of their faith in the company. I'm not giving up on them but not sure just what to make of them either. I can't image I'm the only one in this state of mind so I'm asking the board what would break, make you give up on them, and what would make, completely restore your faith, BioWare for you right now.

For me...

 

Make
New endings. (Shepard in-character, narrative coherence, we see what happens to the ME universe.)

Break
Explain the ending/add LI closure.
Give us a desert island DLC where the Normandy has to get back to Sol or something. I do not care what happens after Shepard gets blasted by the beam. That portion of the game has to be fixed or no DLC will interest me whatsoever.

[Corbinus]

Make

Show that Blue Ending is the good way to go... with real Shepard in control (without any stupid AI clon of him) and without Shepard getting crazy and starting new cycle.

Break

Using IT theory to fix the ending. Because I HATE Red Ending and I dont care if it is a dream

Modifié par Corbinus, 02 avril 2012 - 11:29 .

[Amberion]

I don't think they can change the existing endings, we've been exposed to them, and altering what is currently 'canon' would create a disconnect from what we believe is 'true' in the game. No matter what kind of ending they replace it with, we will still remember what is already present. They need to add more endings, sure, possibly incorporating new DLC missions to add things to the crucible? Possibly missions that alter the strategy for the final battle, changing up the conditions for the final confrontation?(not injured, fully armed, etc) I would expect more options would open up if we could make slight changes to how we approach the endgame. Other than that, I would like to see a PVP multiplayer, as well as co-op single player campaign mode.

[KnightMV]

Make: a complete rewrite of the endings, no plot holes, no god child... Just something that actually makes sense.

Break: anything else.

[RyuujinZERO]

 At this point Bioware is beyond "make", best outcome is that i might consider buying another of their products. I wouldn't impinge on them a specific demand, if I got my demands met 100% I wouldn't feel surprised by it. I don't want to write my own story i just want a story that ends in a way that makes sense.

As for break, it's already broken, their Consumer Loyalty Assets, are below the threshold for a happy ending.

Modifié par RyuujinZERO, 02 avril 2012 - 11:47 .

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

I really don't have a dog in this race: (Ending haters and Apologist) but you apologist are actually bigger whiners than the ending haters. Get over the fact that people disagree with you and stop b!tching.

[paptschik]

I guess I'm not in the right position to speak since I still love them, liked Dragon Age 2 and thought Mass Effect 3 was a masterpiece....simply because, hey, it's my opinion and all and there ain't squat wrong with that (sorry, just feel the need to state that in advanced before being called a drone or whatever else). But, even if it wouldn't be nearly enough to sour me on the company, I'd be disappointed if we didn't get a hefty amount of story DLC and some sort of expansion on multiplayer (different modes or at least races) and I hope they get use SOME DLC that features the various romance options in some way. They have mentioned in the past that they consider that and seeing how people complain about romances being a waste of resources, expending on some of them in DLC might be a good idea. Also I'd hope for pre-ending DLC featuring Kal'Reegar in some form. But all that is more wishing than anything else, so...yeah, I guess i'm good either way. I just want more. More of everything.

[Deltoran]

Justin2k wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

End of day, if you don't enjoy something, just go do something else.  Life is too short.

Yes, we understand you like the ending and defend Bioware's obvious mistakes concerning it. No need to post on every thread that criticises the game.

Most of the people in the Retake Movement continue to make their voices heard becouse they love the series and feel like it deserves a better ending, not becouse they hate it and want to troll here just to kill time.

Nothing will be done about it if we all just stay quiet.

Unfortunately the Retake movement has been tainted.  You do realise that Bioware staff and ME voice actors and that probably hate you right?  Chobot's speech was an example, as has been some bioware twitters.  Some of you have been absolutely disgusting in the way you've done this.

I don't love the ending, nor do i accept there weren't mistakes.  That being said, it's not worth trolling a board for an entire month and that is exactly what you are doing.  Everything you guys post is negative so please stop pretending like you are a positive for the community because you guys have pretty much caused Bioware staff sleepless nights over a video game.

If Bioware staff has been sleepless over some of the people in the retake movement who have been super nasty and not worthy of the movement, then have they not been listening to people like me who have praised them for everything except the ending? (And Tali's face).  I support Bioware's work for 99 percent of ME3...its just that last bit that bothers me and as a customer, I have the right to voice my concern.  I even supported Chobot until she went off on fans because of the actions of a few.  I really feel that we all need to stop generalizing so much.  If you're going to debate...please don't use the personal 'you' to apply to everyone.  Yeah, its easy to stereotype a group of people based on the actions of a few...but is it right?  I don't think so.  In any case, back on topic.

Make: Bioware announces DLC to expand current and add new endings which adds more variety for the tastes of more players.  This DLC involves an actual in game epilogue based on your decions.  Also, it makes EMS matter more and you get to see the fruits of your labor.

Break: Releasing nothing or DLC that doesn't address fan concerns; ie: 'Well...this is why we think what we did was right.' So essentially not listening.  Not too keen on getting explanation if that's all they give...if they give explanation but also new stuff like in the make category, that's fine.

[paptschik]

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

I really don't have a dog in this race: (Ending haters and Apologist) but you apologist are actually bigger whiners than the ending haters. Get over the fact that people disagree with you and stop b!tching.

While I somewhat agree (despite being someone that likes the ending), the people that dislike the ending have a sadly fairly vocal group among that, frankly, are just offensive and insulting. They're just "some" of them, but that doesn't keep them from being an annoying example. And even more so than the annoying people that have to defend the ending at every corner, those disliking it seemingly have to bring that topic up in every thread. It's a bit disheartening, that any bit of positive thinking by anyone is seemingly followed by "I think the ending sucks. Your opinion is invalid." People can dislike it, people can be vocal about that, but they could also be less insulting at the same time.

[Stanley Woo]

Let's keep it on topic, and free of group bashing, please. Thank you.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

But to answer the OP. There really isn't anything Bioware can do to keep me as a customer. As far as I'm concerned, I just might "grow up" and stop playing video games. They are becoming too homogenized by forcing MP and undermining the replay value of Single player. Call me a whiner but that is EA's doctrine.

[chengthao]

Wynne wrote...

Make
New endings. (Shepard in-character, narrative coherence, we see what happens to the ME universe.)

Break
Explain the ending/add LI closure.
Give us a desert island DLC where the Normandy has to get back to Sol or something. I do not care what happens after Shepard gets blasted by the beam. That portion of the game has to be fixed or no DLC will interest me whatsoever.

[Kalas82]

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

End of day, if you don't enjoy something, just go do something else.  Life is too short.

Yeah, ur trolling everywhere is realy helping. You seem a bit distressed, perhaps you should read your last sentence again, slowly.

To the topic:

Make:
a) someone just coming out and adimitting they kinda made mistake. Done deal.
tweaking the ending. I don`t even think they would`ve to ad incredible more stuff for the time beeing, just cut a bit out and a bit in...i could even live with the IT and the door for a real "adon" would be open...moneys for them, happyness for me -> great. ( i would even prefer an "adon" over any dlc but that`s just my  subjective opinion)

Break:
nothing to be honest..i`m not addicted to them...if i want to play one of their games i will...if nothing comes out that interests me..well life goes on. (okokokok if Jade Empire 2 is announced i will renounce the "addicted" part and **** my pants).
I didn`t even buy DA2, while lovin the first DA..the 2nd one just wasn`t that appealing to me..that might happen with ME to.

[Spectre_Shepard]

if the ending was a twist, I will fall down on my knees and worship Bioware/CaseyHudson/MacWalters or whoever else might have been responsible for this last month of misery.

i'll hate them for a while, of course, but eventually I don't think i'll even care anymore.

all will be forgiven... in time.