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[Lokoumi]

Conundrum129 wrote...

Make:
1. New ending DLC (preferably free, but if it's of high enough quality I have no problem paying for it)
2. Applogize for the negitive comments about the fan base.
3. Take more time on your games and get them right, we will wait if it means a better product.

Break:
1. Continue on the path you are one and keep rushing games
2. Keep alienating your fan base.
3. Fail to properly address the problems with the ending.

+1

[Xerorei]

Amberion wrote...

I haven't pre-ordered a game since wrath of the lich king. Burned too many times.

Wait no, I remember incorrectly. I did in fact pre-order SWTOR, but only for the early game access.

Yeah I pre-ordered too, then BW-A pushed early release onto distributors resulting in me not getting a copy because it was going to ship 5 days early, which was 3 days earlier than my work payday, OOPS!

Ended up buying it from brick and mortar store, I refuse to pre-order a damn thing from BioWare, I trusted them with DA , I trusted them with SWTOR, I trusted them with ME 3, No more trust, three strikes and you're out.

[FDrage]

Justin2k wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

I honestly think you and the retake people should probably just move on. I don't think Bioware/EA seem to be making you happy with their products anymore and there is alternatives out there. This way the social network can get back to the small community it was without all the negativity that these people bring.

bro even though i agree its very annoying about the retake movement but chill out though

spamming there threads will make you know different then them

I know man, but it's like every single thread is entitled whining now.  I miss how it was before.

Any in every thread like that "Self entitled true fans whin as well" as if their oppnion should hold more importance then anyone elses. Honestly why can't you accept that quite a number of people (not small by all accounts) have issues with a) the endings,  other technical aspects and properly more so c) the way Bioware (as a company) has handled the whole situation. IN the end nothing will ever change if one does nothing about it. Accepting something does not make someone a "True Fan" ...  I wish the naysayers and lately more so the yessayers to chill out ... I miss how it was before ME3 was released as well.

Modifié par FDrage, 03 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[Benny8484]

Make
1.  New Free DLC Endings
2.  At Least 5 DLC's that are on par with Lair of the Shadow Broker, 2 of which would add content to all 3 mass effects so players could experience new content if they want to start the series over.  This would include new interactions, events, mission, characters etc that would have a impact in ME3
3.  Apology from Bioware regarding poor customer service & feedback
4.  Fix all existing bugs, and refund the hundreds of thousands of lost credits stolen from players in MP store
5.  Fix character creator in ME3 so I can have the same face I had in ME1 & ME2
6.  Signed autograph by femshep & the rest of the normandy team sent to me with real life KEI-9.

Break
1.  Not doing any of the above

[Darth Wolfenbarg]

At this point, it's things that occur in the future that will decide whether it's make or break with Bioware. Mass Effect 3's ending was horribly disappointing, but it didn't actually make me angry like Dragon Age 2's third act. For me, Dragon Age 3 will decide whether or not I buy any more of their games. They've got two strikes now, though those are lessened slightly by the fact that Mass Effect 3 still had incredible moments despite its conclusion.

I do want ending DLC, but how they handle that won't really determine how I deal with Bioware in the future unless they do something incredibly stupid or make it all worse.

[MalevoIence]

Lord Xenu or the Flying Spaghetti monster invades..... that's when I KNOW, Bioware lost all credibility

[nikki191]

personally im still hanging around the forums for a few more days to see what bioware pulls out its behind to extract themselves from being despised by fans.

what would make or break bioware for me personally? nothing. ive already wrung my hands of bioware no matter what they do.

for the community.. a epilogue slide paid dlc will be the final straw for a good chunk of the community.otherwise a free changed ending will return alot of goodwill to them

[stratataisen]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Make: PAID (I'm willing to meet Bioware halfway) DLC or an Expansion pack that redoes the ENTIRE ending sequence, or at least redoes everything that happens after Shepard rides the magic elevator to StarChild. Or a Kal'Reegar Squadie/LI DLC. That works too.

Break: Bioware's first announced DLC being an MP or Alt. Appearance pack, to me, that SCREAMS that they're not taking out concerns seriously and/or don't give a rats ass.

Oh, I would so love a Kal'Reegar squadie. That man deserves a better deal compared to what he got in the game.  (Seriously, killing him off in a newletter!? Come on!  >.< )  But that's not a make or break for me.

How they handle the ending situation is a make or break for me however.  And any further DLC releases. 
I personally would like the option to punt the StarChild off the side of the Citidel, but a an ending fix also works for me too. lol  I would love to go back to Ilos or something like that.

[Rothgar49]

Whether or not they've listened to the fans regarding the ending. If they have bravo, if they haven't - sadness.

[RoninTX]

Benny8484 wrote...


6.  Signed autograph by femshep, Maleshep & the rest of the normandy team sent to me with real life KEI-9.

Break
1.  Not doing any of the above

I kinda fixed it for myself, jsut cause I find this funny 
I would love to have that.

[Rob Sabbaggio]

What would make Bioware for me?
- a free DLC/patch that fixes face import issue and EMS for single player.
- ending DLC (hopefully free and if Bioware wants to get the fans onside it would be, but if it works as I like I would still end up paying) that (a) makes sense, ( doesnt utilise either space child or dues ex machina (or blatantly rip off Fable or Deus Ex endings) © has greater variety reflecting our choices through all three games, (d) gives us a chance of a happy ending with LI and friends, (e) shows what happened to our buddies, and (f) most importantly of all, gives us a chance to argue, fight, struggle. My Shep would never submit to the star childs crazy tautologies, especially given our past achievements, so why now?
- meaty DLC packs akin to LOTSB, preferably on Omega, Illium etc. And make sure all the party members come back to record dialogue, nothing breaks immersion than an entirely mute character.

Break?
- I detested the ending in BSGalactica where magic/religion was used as a crutch to explain everything, I simply dont like that in hard sci-fi. I dont want ending DLC that merely explains the star childs background! If they leave endings as is - three similar choices that dont reflect game play decisions and an out of character shepherd meekly acquiescing to become a bigger murderer than anyone in history - then I'm out.

Bioware games have always been day one purchases for me, and while I liked Dragon Age 2 and could see what it was trying to do, it still had flaws that shook my confidence in them a bit. Still, I replayed it twice and would go through again, and to be fair to Bioware the DLC for DA2 showed progression and listening to the fanbase. That gives me some hope.

Mass Effect 3 should have been a triumph, certainly most of the game was incredible, but the hollow dissapointment caused by the endings has tarnished the whole series for me.

Whats the point of struggling against impossible odds if you end up doing Saren's job for him?

[What a Succulent Ass]

In light of the recent GameInformer thread, the one thing that would bring me great satisfaction is BioWare telling EA to sod off.

But I doubt this will happen.

[G00N3R7883]

Pretty much the only thing that would immediately break Bioware for me would be announcing that DA3 and ME4 will be MMOs.

As long as they keep making singleplayer focused story and character driven RPGs, they will have my attention. I might not necessarily automatically pre-order those games just because "its Bioware", but I'll still be strongly considering buying them.

[daftPirate]

G00N3R7883 wrote...

Pretty much the only thing that would immediately break Bioware for me would be announcing that DA3 and ME4 will be MMOs.

As long as they keep making singleplayer focused story and character driven RPGs, they will have my attention. I might not necessarily automatically pre-order those games just because "its Bioware", but I'll still be strongly considering buying them.

Oooh, there is that. If ME4 is an MMO, I probably won't be there for it. MMO's...not fun for me.

[The Squire]

BioWare are already broken, EA did that for them.

[Edje Edgar]

The Squire wrote...

BioWare are already broken, EA did that for them.

QFT

[Amberion]

ME4(if it happens, under whatever name) should be an MMOFPS, if it's an MMO-anything, with true PVP.

[crazyrabbits]

I've written off the company. At least the discussion here is pretty good (and I did buy three of their prior games).

After all the insane business practices I've seen come from these guys in the last three weeks, I feel relatively secure knowing I made the right call.

[ZtalkerRM]

The Squire wrote...

BioWare are already broken, EA did that for them.

That's how I felt about it too, the first weeks after the debacle called ME3.
However, my shelve is still full with games like Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Kotor and Jade Empire. Games that make me feel happy.

I then realised that when NN was released, there were some game-breaking bugs (certain story-loot not spawining on bosses) that were bad, but were adressed quickly by the dev team after community feedback. Same was true for JE: I have the PC edition, that was released after many pleas from the community. A gracious action, since pirating was already large at that time and there wouldn't be much profit in releasing it for PC.

Somehow, I don't have the same 'faith' in Bioware (or EA) to fix ME3 or DA3 the way they did previously. But I can't imagine the team that did all that great things is gone. It's not like all the people without dollar signs in their eyes were fired and replaced by EA guys, right? I have a little faith in that ME3 is the catalyst (irony) that will make Bioware realise they need to take a step backward now in order to take 2-3 steps forward with the upcoming games. Assigning the right people for the right jobs is (I think) all it takes.

If you look at DA2 and ME3 you can see some parts still have that insane quality we're used to. Other parts, however, are sub-par, making the entire experience of a game flawed. Bioware needs to see that we are willing to wait an insane amount of time for a game and even accept it has bugs, as long as the overall 'feel' is good. Dragon Age is proof of that.

I still have faith, albeit just a very little bit. I won't be pre-ordering Bioware games anymore though, and won't trust sites like GS and IGN on their review score. That time is gone. It can come back though.

[Hogge87]

MAKE

• Fixed endings/addotional endings (free atless we get an extra mission which adds at least half an hour of GAMEPLAY time)
• High quality DLC, providing no less than 5 hours of extra game time.
• Mass Effect 4, with everyones favourite crew, but a new galactic threat.

BREAK

• Ending the ME franchise (ME1-3 are the only BW games I enjoy)
• Not giving us a new ending

[CARL_DF90]

Meh. Kinda iffy about an ME4 with a new big bad. Kinda iffy about an ME4 period right now. At least until ME3's issues are addressed first.

[BurnOutBrighter]

It all hinges on fixing the ending. But I don't see that happening.

Too bad. I won't be able to say "BioWare" in the same breath as "Valve" and "Blizzard" anymore.

Modifié par BurnOutBrighter, 03 avril 2012 - 12:21 .

[nikki191]

stratataisen wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Make: PAID (I'm willing to meet Bioware halfway) DLC or an Expansion pack that redoes the ENTIRE ending sequence, or at least redoes everything that happens after Shepard rides the magic elevator to StarChild. Or a Kal'Reegar Squadie/LI DLC. That works too.

Break: Bioware's first announced DLC being an MP or Alt. Appearance pack, to me, that SCREAMS that they're not taking out concerns seriously and/or don't give a rats ass.

Oh, I would so love a Kal'Reegar squadie. That man deserves a better deal compared to what he got in the game.  (Seriously, killing him off in a newletter!? Come on!  >.< )  But that's not a make or break for me.

How they handle the ending situation is a make or break for me however.  And any further DLC releases. 
I personally would like the option to punt the StarChild off the side of the Citidel, but a an ending fix also works for me too. lol  I would love to go back to Ilos or something like that.

i agree a kal reegar sdlc would of been good but apparently they never even bothered getting in contact with the voice actor or telling him they were killing reegar off

[AlexBackpacker]

 Make:

• Clarification / Extension / Revision of the ending in any way. I just want to know how to look at it and I want to see it adressed by BW and not by a fanmade theory like IT (even though its a brilliant example of creativity!!)
• DLC's that bring the ME2 characters back as full squad members. At least those that didn't have to sacrifice themselfs / died during ME3.

Break:

• Not responding in any way to the widespread issues with ME3 and keep acting like they did the hell of a job. I mean ME3 is still a verry good game but problems should be adressed and solved.
• Not talking about the ending at PAX

[casadechrisso]

Break:

- overpriced ending DLC that is only fanservice without any artistic value

- continue the path they are on, which means: Dumb down games in every aspect, pure fanservice without real value, more player milking, more EA "business models". Suffice to say I don't really believe in Bioware anymore anyway.

Make:

- a surprising and smart way to deal with the endings and whatever issues plague ME3

- the above for free to show they really care about their games ("pull a Witcher")

- a surprisingly good DA3