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Suggestion: Javelin ignores shield gate mechanic.


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Sabbatine wrote...

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While having the Javelin ignore shield gating defeats the entire purpose of the shield gate mechanic (to prevent people from being able to one-shot anything that's not a boss on higher difficulties)


If that's what you think the purpose of the shield gate mechanic is, then its purpose has already been defeated.  Ever use a high powered shotgun?

Shotguns reward people who get in closer. Higher risk.
Being able to oneshot enemies through a wall is just making the game trivially easy.


That isn't even close to being true.  Most shotguns are effective at medium range, infact most maps aren't big enough for sniper rifle range to be really considered an advantage over an assault rifle or scoped pistol and in fact a sniper rifle user is usually exposed to the same amount of risk a shotgun user might be because you're rarely out of the enemies range.

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Not being able to 1 shot basic troopers and constant ammo starvation is the biggest drawback for Javelin. Add the weight and shot delay and you have an N7 weapon that is on par with Mantis. The scope is great and the damage against heavies is nice, but they are not the biggest problem. Infantry is.


The javelin is inherently a defensive oriented weapon.  If you want to run around and operate without the constant support of your team then the valiant, viper, black widow, or even the raptor are better choices.

Secondly, you should almost never pick a sniper rifle based on its ability to one shot basic enemies.  If that is your criteria for choosing a sniper rifle might as well just play another class that specializes at killing weaker enemies.


If it's THE MOST POWERFUL weapon in the game I expect it to one shot a basic shielded trooper. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

Sabbatine wrote...

Tangster wrote...

Sabbatine wrote...

PsychoXR-20 wrote...

While having the Javelin ignore shield gating defeats the entire purpose of the shield gate mechanic (to prevent people from being able to one-shot anything that's not a boss on higher difficulties)


If that's what you think the purpose of the shield gate mechanic is, then its purpose has already been defeated.  Ever use a high powered shotgun?

Shotguns reward people who get in closer. Higher risk.
Being able to oneshot enemies through a wall is just making the game trivially easy.


That isn't even close to being true.  Most shotguns are effective at medium range, infact most maps aren't big enough for sniper rifle range to be really considered an advantage over an assault rifle or scoped pistol and in fact a sniper rifle user is usually exposed to the same amount of risk a shotgun user might be because you're rarely out of the enemies range.

Air Quotes wrote...

Not being able to 1 shot basic troopers and constant ammo starvation is the biggest drawback for Javelin. Add the weight and shot delay and you have an N7 weapon that is on par with Mantis. The scope is great and the damage against heavies is nice, but they are not the biggest problem. Infantry is.


The javelin is inherently a defensive oriented weapon.  If you want to run around and operate without the constant support of your team then the valiant, viper, black widow, or even the raptor are better choices.

Secondly, you should almost never pick a sniper rifle based on its ability to one shot basic enemies.  If that is your criteria for choosing a sniper rifle might as well just play another class that specializes at killing weaker enemies.


If it's THE MOST POWERFUL weapon in the game I expect it to one shot a basic shielded trooper. 


The javelin is not the most powerful weapon in multiplayer.  The Cobra is.  It one hit kills basic enemies (along wiyth every other type), but if you use it to kill a single assault trooper in all but the most unusual circumstances you are wasting the shot and should probably be using something a little easier for you to understand.

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It really should ignore shield gating to an extent, like the kishock.

I just unlocked it an used it for a game, there's no point in using it other than as a gimmick though. My Widow X does more damage, doesn't have a charge up time, and weighs a lot less, and they both suffer from the shield gate mechanic.

I know my javelin is only level 1 but it took me hundreds of packs to unlock it so it's probably never going to get to a high level. It needs something going for it, considering how heavy and rare it is, and the somewhat akward firing mechanism.