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[hussey 92]

I think the all bi thing works for games like Skyrim cause it's pretty much centered around your character. But in the Bioware series the NPC's have more identinty, and when every ones bi it kind of seems like the games going out of it's way to please everyone.
In Origins it gave you a reason to choose different genders, you play as a male you get to hit on Morrigan, you play as a female you can get Alistair

[element eater]

id like charade, shiani, to come in as party members
id like a templar as a party member
id like to see an ash warrior and his/her mabari as party members

as for romances i dont realy care though idprefer them when they have an edge to them like viconia and morrigans so i guess id say more like that

[hussey 92]

element eater wrote...

id like charade, shiani, to come in as party members
id like a templar as a party member
id like to see an ash warrior and his/her mabari as party members

as for romances i dont realy care though idprefer them when they have an edge to them like viconia and morrigans so i guess id say more like that

I don't think Charade was implied to be on the same level as Hawke or Sebastian, and I remember Shiani prefering the run away option at the end of Origins, but I definintly want to see an ash warrior.

I'm curious though how the mage and templar companions will work out, cause of the upcomming mage templer war

[Lucy Glitter]

Will my LI serenade my hero with this song?

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 06 avril 2012 - 02:43 .

[Dejajeva]

All the more reason Cullen would be perfect. I mean, who better than someone who let himself love a mage just to be tortured by a blood mage. And then orsino. Js.

[Dejajeva]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Will my LI serenade my hero with this song?

Have you ever seen the Christmas version by Straight no Chaser? It's a male acapella group that started at my college, Indiana University ages ago. They have CD's out and everything. It's pretty bomb.


www.youtube.com/watch

[hussey 92]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Will my LI serenade my hero with this song?

I was actually trying to go the rest of my life without hearing that song, so thanx

[RonixisJK]

I think it's perfectly realistic for a character to be bisexual and for the player not to find out about it. I've certainly read of plenty of people who are bisexual, in a long-term relationship, and other people think they are (hetero/******)sexual. (Sometimes I read their letters in Dan Savage's column.) I know that I knew such a person for a while (naturally, I know about it now, or I wouldn't be able to say so), and suspect I may very well know more.  I would say that for the purpose of the game, it really depends on what sort of character they are whether or not it's reasonable to expect any relevant dialogue.

I also think that other factors should be more important for restrictions or changes in the romances. For example, if Fenris refused to be involved with a mage, I would think that's much more related to the important character traits we know about him than if Fenris refused to be involved with another man. And as I think has been mentioned before, some actions seem like they should just be dealbreakers in and of themselves. Slavery, perhaps: there are some things you just can't accept, no matter what.

I'd like to see more types of scenes with touching and physical contact (at various levels of intimacy as appropriate). Once you progress to the point of having sex, I think something at the level of explicitness of DA:O would be reasonable if animated well (not to cast aspersions on anyone's work, but I have to admit I felt the scenes in DA:O were sort of awkward). Not sure about any comparison to what's in ME, since I haven't got that far in it yet.  Here, though, I got the impression that the developers had some technical limitations which they were aware of, and that their tools have been improving. I'd certainly be interested to know whether or not my guess is correct.

[Jackel159357]

I disliked how every romance option was bisexual in Dragon Age 2. I have nothing against homosexual party members but I think bioware should have dedicated homosexual characters rather then every character being bi. IMO Isabela being bi was ok as it fitted in with her character but it seemed really odd for the other three, especially Anders who was established as being a womaniser in awakening.

[Lilaeth]

I agree with the other posters who've suggested Cullen. And with Jackel's points about bi/homosexual romances. Would say more but I am eating my breakfast!

[FKA_Servo]

Jackel159357 wrote...

I disliked how every romance option was bisexual in Dragon Age 2. I have nothing against homosexual party members but I think bioware should have dedicated homosexual characters rather then every character being bi. IMO Isabela being bi was ok as it fitted in with her character but it seemed really odd for the other three, especially Anders who was established as being a womaniser in awakening.

Right, because a single line of ambient dialogue is all it takes to conclusively establish someone's character. Thus established, they can never be developed or expanded upon. 

Modifié par TommyServo, 06 avril 2012 - 11:35 .

[Jackel159357]

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

[AkiKishi]

Jackel159357 wrote...

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

Anders -straight
Justice -gay

works for me.

[esper]

Jackel159357 wrote...

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

Or perhaps he was just a flirt. Some people claim he was flirting with Natheniel... You've got no proof he wasn't bi-

[FKA_Servo]

esper wrote...

Or perhaps he was just a flirt. Some people claim he was flirting with Natheniel... You've got no proof he wasn't bi-

This is exactly what I had logged back in to write.

Anders is a flirt and a dope all through Awakenings. Those are traits that actually carry through Act 1 in DA2. People cite his ambient dialogue about "a pretty girl and a fool to shoot lightning at" as evidence of his immutable heterotude
all the time. But - taking Awakenings into consideration - that's all the evidence you can cite. That's pretty flimsy, and it certainly doesn't rule out his being open to both men and women. Besides, as Esper notes above, his interactions with Nathaniel can absolutely be interpreted as flirtatious teasing.

Really speaking, I find Anders' character arc one of the more compelling and consistent ones in the two games. There are some retcons you have to swallow with regards to his status as a Grey Warden, but that's acceptable to me.

Modifié par TommyServo, 06 avril 2012 - 01:12 .

[berelinde]

esper wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

Or perhaps he was just a flirt. Some people claim he was flirting with Natheniel... You've got no proof he wasn't bi-

Precisely. Also, consider the number of adults who are closeted bisexuals. James McGreevey, former Governor of New Jersey, Eleanor Roosevelt, former First Lady of the United States, and many, many more. You cannot expect someone to reveal to a coworker something that other people have trouble confessing to their spouses.

[LolaLei]

Dejajeva wrote...

All the more reason Cullen would be perfect. I mean, who better than someone who let himself love a mage just to be tortured by a blood mage. And then orsino. Js.

Not to mention the fact that the one thing he placed all his faith in to save his "tortured soul" (his Templar beliefs) has now been completely shaken thanks to Meredith. I bet the poor sods kicking himself, he denied himself the one woman he ever loved, beat himself up over the fact that he had feelings for a mage, seemingly avoided any or all chances for happiness (both romantically and generally) instead choosing to put all his time and energy into his Templar duties (probably as part of an avoidance technique to keep himself thinking about the DA:O events/Amell) only to have that turn on him as well. It wouldn't surprise me if he suddenly upped and left Kirkwall without a word and showed up in DA3 as some wandering drunk or rogue Templar/hired hand.

... Still, so long as we get the chance to have him as a companion/LI I don't mind in what manner he returns in DA3, it could be quite fun if he shows up on the hunt for my PC mage to kill her or take her to the circle only for the PC to persuade/trick him to helping her instead under the pretence that she'll return with him to the circle after her mission is complete.

Modifié par LolaLei, 06 avril 2012 - 05:25 .

[Thor Rand Al]

esper wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

Or perhaps he was just a flirt. Some people claim he was flirting with Natheniel... You've got no proof he wasn't bi-

For some this is all the proof they need.
""All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools.""

[LolaLei]

Thor Rand Al wrote...

esper wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

What do you mean?

Ander's womanising tendencies where reinforced throughout the entire of Awakening. I wouldn't call that one line of ambient dialogue.

I have nothing against bi characters but it felt like Anders suddenly became bi for no reason other than the fact he was a LI in DA2 and all LIs in DA2 had to be bi for some reason.

Or perhaps he was just a flirt. Some people claim he was flirting with Natheniel... You've got no proof he wasn't bi-

For some this is all the proof they need.
""All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools.""

I'd consider myself straight but I wouldn't rule out the fact that I could just as easily fall in love with someone of the same sex. It's just a case of "you can't help who you fall for."

[Sejborg]

Not even sure about getting DA3 at all. I really did not like DA2. But if I get the feeling that DA3 will be more to my liking, well...

I think the DA2 characters turned out to be a little too overly charming. Don't know why. Maybe it was the writing, but the music and graphics could also have overdone it for me.

Here is some characters I think would be cool.

A barbarian. A bandit type character. Human warrior male. He only uses two-handed weapons or big stuff, like throwing with tables or something to that affect. He is so huge that he might as well just walk straight through closed doors instead of wasting time using the knob. He should be completely insane, and with a wild look in his eyes. Big, muscular,
dirty, bald and with an insane laugh. A nasty person who just wants to kill, kill, kill. 

A smart girl. A while ago I played this board game, where you get questions and you just have to answer as truthfully
as possible. One of the questions was: What type of person do you fall for: The straightforward type, the sweet type, or the smart (as in educated) type? I answered the smart type. And now when I saw this thread it hit me, that there aren’t many smart type LI girls in the Bioware games I have played. Liara is the only one that springs to mind. Liara is also
my favourite of the lot. So a smart type of girl would be cool I think. 

A thief-rogue character. A small female elf or human dressed in black. I’m thinking tight black pants, and a loose black
hoody kind of thing. She steals everything shiny or of any worth. She is always trying to walk in the shadows and go unnoticed. She is the reserved kind of girl, not really trusting anyone. She is a backstabbing type. There is a saying:
"A thief thinks everybody steals" and therefore she trusts nobody but herself.

Modifié par Sejborg, 06 avril 2012 - 08:49 .

[Maria Caliban]

I consider Liara, Tali, and Miranda intelligent.

I can't tell if Merrill is smart or gifted in a specific area.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 avril 2012 - 09:27 .

[Sejborg]

Yeah. But I would say Tali is more in the sweet type category. But sure, she is kind of techy. Miranda might be smart. But she is just so... "look at my ****** and ass". I would say she is more of the straigtforward type.

Merrill seems very stupid but sweet to me.

But sure. Some characters and people fit more than just one category.

Modifié par Sejborg, 06 avril 2012 - 10:36 .

[Jackel159357]

I don't have any issues with Anders being bi, more the fact that I felt that he wasn't made to be bi to futher his character development but rather to make it so that all the LI in DA2 where bi.

I am fairly sure Anders was not bi in Awakening given that he says that Karl is his first homosexual romance.

In the end it doesn't matter as Bioware can develop their characters how they wanted to, someone becoming bi isn't unheard of. I just felt that Anders becoming bi was because he was a LI not because bioware wanted to develop his character in that way. I think that a characters sexuality should be determined by their character rather than whether or not they are a LI.

[wsowen02]

I say make Leliana a party member and romance option again, but only if she was not romanced by the Warden. If she was, she remains loyal to him/her and still intends to find them again someday.

[Lucy Glitter]

hussey 92 wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

Will my LI serenade my hero with this song?

I was actually trying to go the rest of my life without hearing that song, so thanx

IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT TO TAKE THIS SONG AWAY-YYYY FROM YOU-UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Maria Caliban wrote...

I consider Liara, Tali, and Miranda intelligent. 

I can't tell if Merrill is smart or gifted in a specific area.

 

I think you mean pedantic. They are a tricky sort.