Rabid Rooster wrote...
I just wanted to make a comment on the part I bolded. I see this term thrown around alot, just what is wrong with knowing what your fans want and catering to your core fan base? That is one thing that has made BioWare games so great in the past.
Modifié par Dessalines, 07 mai 2012 - 09:06 .
Dessalines wrote...
Nyree (I never saw Redemption, but her wiki makes her sound like an interesting character. I still want my mature female LI.
Avejajed wrote...
I have a feeling not only will Cassandra be a companion but that she's going to be vastly annoying. lol. I mean, I don't know yet because I haven't created a character, but I think her personality is going to grate on me. A lot.
brushyourteeth wrote...
I don't think they go to the Fade, exactly. Otherwise mages who know the Fade well would be able to solve the mystery of what happens after death by being like "yep, Jerry's in the Fade. The Chantry's a fraud." Instead, anyone's best guess about what happens when you die is that you go "to the Maker's side." whatever that means.
But as for Cullen possessed by anyone, especially Loghain.... I really appreciate the thought but....just no. LOL
LOL- if it was that easy, I think someone like Anders/Justice would have done it already.wsandista wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
I don't think they go to the Fade, exactly. Otherwise mages who know the Fade well would be able to solve the mystery of what happens after death by being like "yep, Jerry's in the Fade. The Chantry's a fraud." Instead, anyone's best guess about what happens when you die is that you go "to the Maker's side." whatever that means.
But as for Cullen possessed by anyone, especially Loghain.... I really appreciate the thought but....
Well that would be the best way to disprove the chantry.
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brushyourteeth wrote...
LOL- if it was that easy, I think someone like Anders/Justice would have done it already.wsandista wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
I don't think they go to the Fade, exactly. Otherwise mages who know the Fade well would be able to solve the mystery of what happens after death by being like "yep, Jerry's in the Fade. The Chantry's a fraud." Instead, anyone's best guess about what happens when you die is that you go "to the Maker's side." whatever that means.
But as for Cullen possessed by anyone, especially Loghain.... I really appreciate the thought but....
Well that would be the best way to disprove the chantry.
"You can disband the Chantry and the Circle now - Andraste was wrong. My spirit friend and I have seen the afterlife and it's pretty watercolored and creepy, but there's definitely no Maker there." haha
Modifié par Windninja47, 29 mai 2012 - 12:18 .
brushyourteeth wrote...
LobselVith8 wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
I don't think Merrill has a Dalish view on the fade spirits at all - in fact, Marethari seems to well know the difference between a good spirit and a bad spirit, though she may not use the word demon. And just because the Chantry may be unattractive doesn't automatically mean that they have false knowledge on this point.
I'll let the dialogue between Anders and Merrill speak for itself on this issue:
Anders: Maybe you don't really understand the difference between spirits and demons.
Merrill: Did I ask you?
Anders: Spirits were the first children of the Maker, but He turned his back on them to dote on His mortal creations. The ones who resented this became demons, driven to take everything mortals had and gain back the Maker's favor.
Merrill: Your "Maker" is a story you humans use to explain the world. We have our own stories. I don't need to borrow yours.
I hope that concludes any doubt about spirits and demons being part of Andrastian lore.
I actually don't see how that settles anything, except that Anders and Merrill disagree. If I mislead you to believe I didn't understand the Chantry view on fade spirits, I apologize - but like I said, just because the Chantry is unattractive doesn't make them wrong.
On the contrary, Merrill seems to be the only Dalish elf who refuses to see the difference between evil fade spirits and benevolent ones. Don't you remember how her entire clan freaked out when she began practicing blood magic? Is she smarter than all of them now?
brushyourteeth wrote...
LobselVith8 wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
I see using blood magic to stop any tragedy as being quite evil, because the power of blood magic is corrupting. It is the act of opening yourself up to demonic influence as a trade-off for whatever you think that power is worth. And it is making yourself a potential horror greater than any that your loved ones now have to deal with.
Except some mages turn to blood magic because they see it as the only school of magic that's free of spirits and demons, per the lore:
"Nothing inspires as much wild-eyed terror as the Blood Mage. Mages of this type take the raw energy of life and twist it to their own purposes. They can corrupt and control, and sustain their power by consuming the health of others, willing or not. The effects can be vile, but this specialization isn’t limited to madmen and monsters. Many see it as the only form of magic that is truly free, because it’s tied to the physical, not favors to spirits or demons."
I suppose this is an issue where we will simply have to agree to disagree.
I don't know what to say about that bolded part of the codex entry. Good find. I hope you'll agree with me that that's a side of blood magic that hasn't been adequately explained to us, so I can honestly say I don't know what to make of it.
And you know me - I've already agreed to disagree, but as long as you find it worth talking about I'm game.
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