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[EricHVela]

Arokel wrote...

The Inusannon (spelling?) were the predecessors of the Protheans. It was their statues on Ilos. The Prothean facility there was built atop their ruins.

Not a great retconn but I am okay with it for some reason.

This. The Protheans didn't change. Remnants of a previous civilization that was also missed by the Reapers made an ideal hiding spot for the Protheans.

I'm okay with the retconn, too.

[Darth Asriel]

Ok OP here it is for the 100th time:

1)His accent is African, not Jamaican. There is a huge difference. We have many different accents and are 1 species so why wouldn't Protheans?

2) Scientific advancements and Empirical rule are not exclusive. Example in our limited history: Egyptian Empire, Imperial Japan, the Soviet Union, British Empire, Roman Empire, Chinese Empire, Etc, etc, etc. All achieved great things in the realm of science. And l could be considered brutal by modern sensibilities.

3) Javik works for two distinct reasons: A) he is a soldier born into a galaxy already burning. He never saw the height of the Empire. He states that the Citadel was under Reaper control his entire life. It was an ideal that they used to inspire each other. the only information the player really has about the Protheans is from Liara. Our information is colored by her. So yeah it is a shock when you meet one and he's nothing like Liara(or the player) imagined. Plus imagine you went to bed, awoke and found that not only are you the last human, but that dogs, cats, and dolphins now rule earth.

[Beliyaal]

To be fair, it would probably be ravens, chimps and dolphins...maybe octopuses.

[Jim Darksworn]

We didnt really know anything about the Protheans, it was all guess work. I think they hammered the point home a bit much though.

[Peer of the Empire]

Their new accents are quite annoying.  And they look like Collectors.  I have contempt for Collectors

[acrb101]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Their new accents are quite annoying.  And they look like Collectors.  I have contempt for Collectors

Because Collectors are huskified Protheans.

The galaxy also doesn't know much about Protheans, as the Reapers tried hard to wipe an evidence of their existance of the face of the galaxy. It could easily be explained that everyone thought the Illos statues were Protheans, because the galaxy had no other evidence.

The image was changed mid game. So were a lot of things. It sucks, but I am content with the current explanation that Protheans weren't ready to ascend, so instead of becoming Reapers, they were huskified, and used as soldiers such as the human/turian/asari husks that we fight throughout Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par acrb101, 02 avril 2012 - 07:28 .

[Ryuukishi]

The Collectors and Javik look really cool so I'm quite all right with the retcon of what Protheans look like.

[rymajn3]

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Their new accents are quite annoying.  And they look like Collectors.  I have contempt for Collectors

You mean Javik's accent. Like humans, quarians, asari, etc. not all Protheans have the same accent.

How is that so hard to understand?

Collectors were once Protheans. I assumed everyone already knew this.

[Phobius9]

Javik is a stone cold Boss. He has had enough of your disingenuous assertions, primitive.

[Udalango]

Why did the Collector General look so much different

[Amialis666]

Not sure if its been mentioned... but maybe the images in the ME beacon, was not the protheans.

We know from Javik, that protheans read informations from surfaces.
So maybe, the protheans got glimpses of the destruction of the Inusannon, and put it in the beacon.
After their interactions with the Asari they had no reason to believe, that the world would not know of the protheans and what they looked like, so putting a memory of a species from a previous cycle would in a way warn the viewer it had occurred twice.

It was just shepard and Liara's fault for thinking the species in the original vision was that of a prothean.

I don't know, I'm bored...

Modifié par Amialis666, 03 avril 2012 - 02:46 .

[Beliyaal]

rymajn3 wrote...

Peer of the Empire wrote...

Their new accents are quite annoying.  And they look like Collectors.  I have contempt for Collectors

You mean Javik's accent. Like humans, quarians, asari, etc. not all Protheans have the same accent.

How is that so hard to understand?

Though to contradict several people, the Prothean VI on Thessia has the same accent just fainter, and a slightly higher pitched voice. 

Also, I like the accents. Javik's voice is just fantastic. 

[NUM13ER]

I personally liked the subversion of what we expected. Everyone expected the Protheans to be enlightened precursors and wise beyond all races. Javik himself implies that before their war with the Metacon and then the Reapers that they were different. They were certainly shaped into a much more brutal empire by these events.

It still leaves a lot of mystery about what they were like before war made them focus solely on military might and survival. Maybe the Empire once protected/natured all fledgling sentients and peacefully offered the option of joining their civilisation. Much like the council does in the current cycle. I think it adds a layer of the tragedy to their species if conflict basically forced them into becoming ruthless conquerors out of necessity.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 03 avril 2012 - 03:57 .

[zovoes]

Udalango wrote...

Why did the Collector General look so much different

it was a thing made to act as an avatar for the reapers to use the collectors. why do brutes and cannibals look like they do and not like what they are made from? maybe the reapers think it's funny.

[TheLostGenius]

The statutes on Ilos was one of the many races described by Jatvik, likely the Innuson. (sp on that one)

[tiduspr]

darthclide wrote...

I feel the same way... Mass Effect had the chance to get better with every game that came out. They proved me right with ME2 (though I wouldn't give it as much praise as ME1), but now, there are a million small things that have gone wrong with ME3 (some of which I can't talk about because most people would disagree with me/I could be banned for these thoughts) including this... I remember the awe I felt in ME1 when I discovered Prothean artifacts on all the different planets. That feeling was so amazing... And yet, they just wrenched that wonderful feeling out of me, and threw it by the wayside... You see. If they had planned from the beginning that the protheans were going to be "ruthless and dictatorial" then I believe the "build-up" of emotion that they made in ME1 and ME2 would have been MUCH MUCH less. This would have been done, so that you didn't feel as "attached" to the protheans like I did. But nope, it really seems like they have a whole new team that doesn't give a rat's *** about the other writers from ME1 and ME2 (that includes Drew). I am saddened by all these "minor" mistakes they made. I will still love the game, but my god, they could have have "gone to the stars" with this game so to speak.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

At first, I was a bit surprised by the 180 that Javik turned out to be.  I even thought that the idea of the Inusannon as a species pre-prothean was cool.  And figured out that those were the statues on Ilos.

But then, I replayed Mass Effect 1, again.  I don't know how many of you have replayed ME1 after 3..but as soon as Shepard hit he first beacon and I started watching the vision with the tentacled faced Protheans...it just did not make sense to me anymore.

It did not feel mysterious.  I felt no pity for them.  It just felt like:

"Bioware changed this" .. and right then and there, immersion was totally broken.

I remember how amazing traveling through Ilos was.

Soft-spoken and intelligent Vigil.

None of this was exciting anymore.  Granted, I am biased towards the vision that the Protheans had been a gentle, perhaps peace loving, wise race.  Which made the tragedy greater in my eyes.

But I would have accepted otherwise (though would have still been a little dissappointed), if only the beacons from ME1 weren't so persistent in showing us an image of the Protheans that was eventually ditched by Bioware.

My immediate thought was that animating the tentacle faces was probably harder than they thought.  And so the change.

Ah well.  Add that to the list of things that disappointed me in ME.

Modifié par tiduspr, 16 avril 2012 - 01:09 .

[DangerousPuddy]

They pulled it off because it was plausible, however I would have rather had an all-knowing, smart generous alien as opposed to Javik.

[troyk2027]

Zuka999 wrote...

 ...Jamaican accents...

No, it's not. Why do people think this?

Modifié par troyk2027, 16 avril 2012 - 01:14 .

[PorcelynDoll]

I'm glad they got redesigned. I was not looking forward to a squid face squad mate lol
I love Javik's accent. It's sexy.

[Adrian Shepherd]

ahandsomeshark wrote...

AND HE DID NOT HAVE A JAMAICAN ACCENT. EVERYTIME SOMEONE SAYS THAT I MURDER A KITTEN. LEARN YOUR ACCENTS PEOPLE PLEASE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JAMAICAN TOO