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[Andsmth85]

Did finding out how the Quarians treated the Geth made anyone want to side with the Geth over the Quarians ? ( this of course only concerns those who couldnt save both ) , if it wasnt for Tali i would have definitely sided with the Geth , Legion's mission clearly showed that the Quarians were the ones who started the whole mess by unfairly killing the Geth.

[sergio71785]

Those quarians all died ~300 years ago (quarians aren't long lived). None of the quarians alive now had anything to do with the moring war. Why would someone hold the actions of their ancestors against them?

Modifié par sergio71785, 02 avril 2012 - 03:33 .

[Admiral H. Cain]

It happened over three hundred years ago. This would be like blaming white people currently living in America for slavery...

[justafan]

I believe what was shown in ME3 was more or less stated by Legion in ME2, we just get to "see" it in ME3. As for how it made me feel, I have a soft spot for the Quarians (was a big battlestar galactica fan at one point) so I didn't fault them for the sins of the father. The geth just didn't seem trustworthy to me in ME3, so I still would have sided with the Quarians had push come to shove.

[Serp86]

Look the Geth for the old Quarians were nothing more then home appliances . It was stupid in the first place to create machines that smart and then freak out because of it but don't start about treating the Geth.

Hell if my toaster started to ask me if he had a soul i'd be wierded out too. I wouldn't shoot it but still ....

Only thing i didn't understand is why they couldn't ignore that the question. Who cares if my freezer is selfaware if he still does what he was build for and i paid for to do.  If he wasn't doing that yeah then there would be a problem.

Modifié par Serp86, 02 avril 2012 - 03:43 .

[Andsmth85]

Ok maybe i should have said that finding this out made feel for the Geth , that one scene with the Geth asking the Quarian what he did wrong and that he would just reprogram himself to do better especially ( the Quarian killed him anyway) comes to mind

[I am KROGAN]

I sided with the Geth out of pure hate and rage over the stupid Quarian admiral who wouldn't F**KING LISTEN TO ME AND BACK THE F**K OFF.

Long story short, I punched him in the stomach and kicked him off my ship. Later I realized I couldn't broker peace between the 2 because that admiral is a ******.

Let Legion upload the code, Tali suicides

I raged for like 15 minutes after she killed herself. It's all that stupid admirals fault.

Edit: spelling

Modifié par I am KROGAN, 02 avril 2012 - 03:42 .

[Sajuro]

Nope, I knew that the Quarians had attempted genocide on the geth before and like other people said I'm not going to condemn them for the sins of their ancestors.

[GigaTheToast]

I always sided with the quarians over the geth, but then, my Shepard wasn't dating a geth.

[moater boat]

Admiral H. Cain wrote...

It happened over three hundred years ago. This would be like blaming white people currently living in America for slavery...

This is EXACTLY what I am going to say. You can't hold anyone responsible for the actions of others, even if those others looked the same, to do so would racist, and yes, I totally went there.

[Bigdoser]

moater boat wrote...

Admiral H. Cain wrote...

It happened over three hundred years ago. This would be like blaming white people currently living in America for slavery...

This is EXACTLY what I am going to say. You can't hold anyone responsible for the actions of others, even if those others looked the same, to do so would racist, and yes, I totally went there.

Yet the quarians went to war again even though the reapers came. The geth was preparing for the reapers and quarians just HAD to go to war. =_= Lets just say to me personally a lot of sympathy went out of the window for me when I found out they went to war with the geth. 

[Mad-Max90]

Yes, this was brought up in ME2 if you talk to legion a lot, he states that a single question sparked so much hate from their creators, "Does this unit have a soul?" I think Tali might have also said something about it in ME1, but I'm not sure. The big question that led to the Geth and even Quarians rebelling against the majority of The quarians is if it can ask questions such as "do I have a soul" then does it have a conscience. "I think therefor I am" some embraced this while others felt threatened.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

It was a shallow attempt at manipulation of the player; the only way it could have been more obvious is someone waving a big sign saying "Don't kill the geth! They're totally innocent despite all the people they've slaughtered!" It actually made me feel less sympathetic towards the geth, as I don't like it when writers trying to push me a certain way (the same is true about how they handled Cerberus, although in an opposite direction to the geth). I got peace anyway though, so it really didn't matter in the end.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 02 avril 2012 - 03:56 .

[Zine2]

The problem with the Quarians is really that they have an ultra-militant faction who dragged them into this. Koris and many other Quarians don't WANT this war.

So having an option to shoot the militant admirals would have been fun, but being able to talk them down was just as good.

[flub3]

I would of sided with the Geth anyway. I liked Tali, but I am not going to condemn a passive civilization (that was planning to help fight the reapers) to death when I could destroy the aggressive (that decided to start a war instead of fight the reapers) civilization.

[pomrink]

i killed off the quarians everytime, even when i had the option to broker peace. there is exactly one quarian we meet that doesn't support/help/hide war crimes. everyone else seemed to be pretty on board with murdering other sentient beings.

[the red boon]

I have a soft spot for ai not gonna lie. Big fan of "Bladerunner" and "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep." That being said I did find it interesting there was sympathetic quarians which is what I enjoyed most about it because it gave the geth a reason to trust the quarians and the fact they always wanted to serve the quarians again just reminds of me of the "Prodigal Son." I understood why there was such a movement to kill the geth for they were afraid of breaking Citadel law and the repercussions of that.

[Admiral H. Cain]

Bigdoser wrote...

moater boat wrote...

Admiral H. Cain wrote...

It happened over three hundred years ago. This would be like blaming white people currently living in America for slavery...

This is EXACTLY what I am going to say. You can't hold anyone responsible for the actions of others, even if those others looked the same, to do so would racist, and yes, I totally went there.

Yet the quarians went to war again even though the reapers came. The geth was preparing for the reapers and quarians just HAD to go to war. =_= Lets just say to me personally a lot of sympathy went out of the window for me when I found out they went to war with the geth. 

Technically speaking, the Geth were occupying their home world. Right or wrong, this simple fact remains.

For what it's worth, I was pissed that the Quarians decided to attack the Geth considering they knew the Reapers were coming...

Modifié par Admiral H. Cain, 02 avril 2012 - 04:20 .

[Nobrandminda]

Even before seeing the old memories from the Morning War, I liked the Geth enough that I really wanted to save them if possible.

Now, I think if I ever ran into a situation where I had to make a Virmire Choice between the Geth and Quarians, I'd probably just turn the game off.

[Morse]

It bothered me in general how the Quarians have handled the Geth. In ME2, bringing Legion onto the Flotilla for Tali's loyalty mission allows the admirals to actually speak with the Geth, which gives them very specific insight as to how to get their homeworld back. Low and behold in ME3, despite knowing the Reaper invasion is imminent, the Quarians are fighting with the Geth to retake Rannoch, which pushes the Geth back under the Reaper banner, completely undermining your loyalty mission with Legion in 2.

I really didn't expect the Quarians to go full retard. I took the paragon road to save them, but that decision didn't come easily; they deserved to get their asses handed to them.

I expected that since I gave them the chance to speak with Legion, that they were keeping hush because they were preparing for war together, not against one another. There's a blip at the end of ME2 in the audio news reports that Geth are massing in the Veil if you bring Legion to the Flotilla; from my playthroughs I never heard that story air if I didn't bring Legion to the Flotilla. I may be wrong here, but from that I was expecting something a lot cooler than what happened.

Modifié par Morse, 02 avril 2012 - 04:21 .

[Sawtooth357]

This one found it unfortunate that the industrious Quarians did not use a humble Hanar in their tactical appraisal for retaking their homeland. Had a Hanar been consulted, it would have first recommended to ask politely for the Quarian homeworld back.

[samb]

 Yes it made me side with the geth. I don't blame the current Quarians for the Morning War, I blame them for the current war. They learned nothing from the mistakes of their ancestors and repeated in fact repeated it.

What annoyed me even more was that specifically told them not to go to war with the geth. Like word for word during Tali's trial. And yet they still went to war, and the admiral had the nerve to tell everyone to ignore Tali's orders..... As far as I'm concerned they had it coming.  
Tali comitting suicide was unfortunate, but I guess witness the genocide of your race will do that to you. She was truly an innocent caught in politics beyond her control.  Oh wait, it was in her control since she was like an admiral. Guess she was somewhat responsible afterall. 
Tl;dr version: the Quarians of old and the current ones brought this clusterfuk on themselves. 

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

I got peace but if I couldn't I would have gone with the Geth. When I got Peace I wish there had been an option to shoot Gerrel.

[blah64]

Not in the least. I'm just sorry the Quarians didn't suceed in the first place. It would have saved them alot of trouble. I don't believe AIs or synthetics are ever truly alive, hence destroying one is no more wrong than trashing your computer.

[DJBare]

No, there was something bigger, the war between the quarians and the geth and their reason paled in comparison to all advanced civilizations in the galaxy being wiped out.