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[frostajulie]

Just what the title says.  I am a pretty casual gamer.  That being said I have the game on casual and everybody dies.  I have bought out potions and ingredients and can't make more or buy more because the vendors never restock.  I beat the game with my mage on casual but I like the rogue.  I built one on my own and she was awful so I built another according to the specifications in the strategy guide and she got me to Orzimar but we are all out of potions and everybody dies all the time  I have more fun playing as a rogue with all the whirling and stabbing so much more fun then a mage but I am so sick of the loading screens.

So question: On the xbox 360 does anyone else have the problem where vendors do not restock their supplies? 

And

Do you think there would be a possibility that a new level of game play could be released it could be called the you suck difficulty setting.  I would play this difficulty because it is apparantly where I belong.


Okay so the 2nd question was my attempt to laugh at myself but how about the first, is this a problem with many people or just me?

Thank you for your time

[Nomcookie]

Only some vendors have unlimited supply of ingredients. Lyrium Dust can be obtained from the vendor at the Circle Tower, Elfroot is from the vendor at the Dalish camp (werewolf one), Flasks are in unlimited supply in the party camp and some arbitrary vendors in the world.

[metatrans]

train one of your characters in herbalist. manufacture infinite potions.

vendor locations for key ingredients

Flask - Bodahn Feddic in camp has infinite. so does the Bartender in Gnawed Noble tavern in Denerim. the Bartender's prices are cheaper.

Lyrium Dust - the quartermaster at the mage circle tower has infinite.

Elfroot - Varathorn the smith at the Brecilian outskirts camp has infinite.

Distillation Agent and Concentrator Agent - again, Bodahn and the Bartender. Bartender is cheaper by a noticeable amount.

Modifié par metatrans, 03 décembre 2009 - 03:40 .

[snow0815]

Pickpocketing tends to yield a LOT of potions, too.

[Foofad]

Having a healer with good tactics set is also a must.

[xDxRxAxKxAxNx]

Having a Healer is excellent advice as well as the advice about making your own healing herbs. And to be more specific about the Healer...in the course of leveling up your mage, Group Heal is a spell you will really use a Lot! Your Battle Tactics screen is also another area you should pay close attention to. This can make or break your team.

[Nazoa]

Yeah a healer is important, there is an alarming difference in running through an area with Morrigan, and running through the same area with Wynne, you will notice the tide of battle flows much better when you have Wynne with you

[You Are Here]

I never knew about the never-ending supply of elfroots. That's excellent information to have, especially since elfroots in the wilderness do not respawn. Sure would have made my playthroughs much easier. As it was, I had to ration who got a potion and when. Are we close enough to the end of the battle that I can afford to sacrifice a teammate or two? Because my potions were limited (so I thought), I learned to use them sparingly.



As mentioned above, take another look at your tactics, OP. Keep re-examining and revising your tactics until your team performs the way you want them/need them to. With a good tactics set-up, you should be able to get through most battles on Normal without too much trouble and without having to do too much micro-managing of each individual character during the battle. You don't suck -- you probably just need some tweaking.



Good luck!

[menasure]

i agree with the OP. a lot of the time the difficulty comes down to knowing where you can find potions ... you can make your game very hard when you do not know where to get potions in time.



there's no need to run with wynne btw, just adding a heal spell to morrigan (who also has lvl3 herbalism) and adding it to the tactics works too, provided that you a few sturdy companions who have some tanking ability. when playing without a tank you will run out of potions very fast.



the vendors with the good supply were already summed up by metatrans but the vendor with infinite supply for elfroot is only available as long as the elves control the camp.

[PatT2]

Ummm...there's a lot more to healing than a heal spell, with Wynn. Lots more. Way lots more. I just train her in some CC spells as well, and she becomes uber useful. The entire glyph line, for instance. She already has rock fist. Set her tactics well. Regen and group regen. There are also ways for your tank to buff the whole group. I had no idea a warrior could be as useful as they are until I played one. She's awesome with Champion maxed. She buffs the whole party. Get everyone in the party to have at least one party-level buff and watch how much easier it gets. All team members need to be team players a little, and it makes a huge difference. Then you can play a higher difficulty level and the challenge is not so great because you're working your team together instead of having 4 individuals out for themselves.

[Nullvenom]

Heh, the end battle was so hyped up, that I spent an hour and 58 sovereigns (gold) walking between the circle, dalish camp, and warden's keep ( my ingame closet) to 'prepare' for the final battle into denerim.

I didn't even use that much, I ended the fight with 16 potent, 26 greats, 19 regular, and 59 lesser health pots left. 36 greater lyrium, and 12 regular left. Never made any lesser, each lesser was only good for one more spell, and wasn't worth the time sink.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I'm having the same problem playing as a rogue. Not finding materials to craft my own supplies. Deep mushrooms are the hardest to come by. I'm not finding the supplies to craft with. Currently I have Morrigan and Wynne both working on the herbal skills. Sten as trap maker. Alastair with survival skills and me playing as a rogue with the posion skill. Vendors are not restocking or is this a rogue issue and you have to give someone high pickpocket skill to finish the game?

[snow0815]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I'm having the same problem playing as a rogue. Not finding materials to craft my own supplies. Deep mushrooms are the hardest to come by. I'm not finding the supplies to craft with. Currently I have Morrigan and Wynne both working on the herbal skills. Sten as trap maker. Alastair with survival skills and me playing as a rogue with the posion skill. Vendors are not restocking or is this a rogue issue and you have to give someone high pickpocket skill to finish the game?

Geting quite a few mushrooms and elfroots from picking pockets in addition to health poultices, can't recall stealing any mana potions or lyrium dust though.

[Varenus Luckmann]

Foofad wrote...

Having a healer with good tactics set is also a must.

No, it's not. A healer is nice, but far from a must.

[Varenus Luckmann]

snow0815 wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I'm having the same problem playing as a rogue. Not finding materials to craft my own supplies. Deep mushrooms are the hardest to come by. I'm not finding the supplies to craft with. Currently I have Morrigan and Wynne both working on the herbal skills. Sten as trap maker. Alastair with survival skills and me playing as a rogue with the posion skill. Vendors are not restocking or is this a rogue issue and you have to give someone high pickpocket skill to finish the game?

Geting quite a few mushrooms and elfroots from picking pockets in addition to health poultices, can't recall stealing any mana potions or lyrium dust though.

It is possible to find lyrium dust through pickpocketing, but you're right in that poultices are much, much, much more common.
I haven't seen any mana poultices either.

[snow0815]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

It is possible to find lyrium dust through pickpocketing, but you're right in that poultices are much, much, much more common.
I haven't seen any mana poultices either.

Now that you mention it I think I may found 2 or so lyrium dust from mages, but since I have pickpocketed just about every NPC in the game this is a very poor yield. Hardly got anything really nice either, the best were 2 champion shields and a few gift items. And cash, of course. Apart from that, it's just health poultices and crafting materials of all kinds...

[Draconus Kahn]

I learned pretty quick on normal on xbox 360 that if I didn't play the game like WoW or any other mmorpg I was doomed. I would die all the time and, more often than not, my family would hear it. lol



Make the game easier for you. Spec someone in herbalism, this character will be the mage, and make this person a dedicated healer/crowd controller. Your tank will wear nothing but sword and shield (bow if you are chasing down ranged stragglers). Threaten and taunt are KEY! Create a balanced mix of characters. If you are dps then Alistair is tank, wynne/morrigan heals, morrigan/sten main dps, and leliana/zevran scout (traps/treasure/general scouting).



You can let the game defeat you or you can defeat the game!



As far as potions go, on normal with Wynne as main heals I almost never use poltices enough to deplete my supply of 20 or so normal health poltices. She also creates them.



1: Lyrium can be bought REALLY REALLY CHEAP from the circle tower vendor.

2: Flasks and their upgrades can be bought REALLY REALLY CHEAP from camp.

4. THOSE ingredients are unlimited supply and are always found in stacks of 99 on vendor



Someone please post the location for elf root so I can add it to number 5 later. Thanks!

[beauville]

Elfroot can be bought in the Dalish camp.

[Heldelance]

As Bioware said, it's a spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate so if you haven't played those classics you should DEFINITELY give it a go. It actually has a story.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

No, I haven't played Baldur's Gate. Heard alot about it though.



I knew it, the pickpocket skill!! What is the best way to use the tactic screen for pickpocket?

[Sabriana]

After a month without Internet (I can't believe it took this long!) I found out the hard way that herbalism is a must. I had to play without getting any help whatsoever from the net, and had to figure everything out the hard way, indeed.

Same goes for the poisonous potions. I've yet to figure out where to get the goods, but it should be much easier now that I can look up/ask for help on the interwebs. Gotta get some more use out of Zevran, he's already quite good in poisons. I'm also playing on easy (first game ever, normally I'm quite good at normal settings). So poison, as well as healing is a definite must for me.

Gotta catch up with the forums, I missed a heck of a lot, it seems.

[Matthew Young CT]

potions arent even close to a must. only time ive ever used herbalism in this game is to make that potion for the quest

[humorguy]

I totally agree there is not enough elfroot or lyrium dust in the world! I play as a rogue, but that doesn't matter, as I am fed up in castle trawling, deep road trawling and forest trawling at level 7, finding nothing useful in boxes and chests! Most of th4 time it is useless weapons and armour or diamonds and such, that while raising money does not help with the quests! Some of these quests can take hours and either you have to go all the way to the quest start to be able to travel the map to find dealers selling what you need! More often than not, I only die because I run out of health potions or lyrium!



This problem is also due to 'traps' where enemies can just appear out of thin air behind your team to simulate an ambush, but they have appeared for example, when we were on a bridge!



I find it so frustrating too that to have the 50 flasks, concentrators, elfroots, lyrium dust and ingredients for fire and other bombs and poisons, etc needed for some of the long quests means that half your inventory limit has to be taken up!



If you could go to the main map from anywhere, go to the camp from anywhere it wouldn't be so bad. If the game autosaved after every battle, instead of before a big battle and when you move into a new area only, then the experience would be so better.



The story and characters might have been thought about for years and in-depth, but the gameplay certainly wasn't!

[Sabriana]

Well now, the game-play isn't all that bad, except for the potions and the inventory spots. I'm quite sure that some modder will come up with something for that.



I do agree that lugging the ingredients around is a nuisance, especially because they take up valuable weight (I seem to be missing NWN, all of them, where you could distribute inventory to your companions).



I do agree, it would be nice if my PC girl could have a hut (or something comparable) here and ther to store the needed items.

[Matthew Young CT]

please tell me that was a joke....if so well done