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Tactical Cloak Is Over Powered, And Needs Balancing.


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#101
TJX2045

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The damage isn't overpowered, because it mostly depends on how well the infiltrator can aim with their sniper rifle and if the infiltrator goes melee like a Cerberus Phantom, which is usually rare in the midst of mobs.

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No i think think that all other classes need a buff, people see Infiltrators trash bronze and silver but gold, thats a whole new story. I would say that tac. cloak is the only balanced thing in ME3 :P I wan't my Quarian turret to get a damage and shield buff for gold and silver, it's damn near useless on silver and complete garbage on gold.

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Cloak is not overpowered it barely makes up under powered sniper rifles. It makes no sense that a widow's headshot does not kill a marauder.

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BobWalt wrote...

Cloak is not overpowered it barely makes up under powered sniper rifles. It makes no sense that a widow's headshot does not kill a marauder.


Widow sucks IMO you only get 8 or so shots, really needs a buff bad...

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I think the cloak's damage is balances just right, especially on higher difficulties. It's not like cloaking is an auto-win button.

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MatyrGustav wrote...

Tactical Cloak Is Over Powered, And Needs Balancing.


No. Biotic Explosions/Asari Adepts STOMP Infiltrators. This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

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The Smitchens

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I can't believe anyone would argue the infiltrator is overpower when those vanguards can just half nova their way through any situation.

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EG NeoMorph wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

@KingSims
The ar rush stays alot longer then cloak and has a equal cd, i moreso believe the hardnened evoltuion or the shield evolution could use some tweaking, so that it actually benefits the soldier that has to stick their head out


Anyone got an English translation for this heh.

Seriously, I have NO clue what you are saying Phoenix.


Allow me to translate:

"Adrenaline Rush has a longer duration than Tactical Cloak while at the same time having the same exact cooldown speed. I believe the Hardening evolution (the rank 4 evolution) and the Shield Boost evolution (rank 6 evolution) could use some tweaking, so that it actually benefits the Soldier that has to stick their head out!"

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If you really think Infiltrators are OP, you've never played Gold, or never played it without being carried.

And they don't kill variety, there are plenty of other builds that are effective in the areas that the Infiltrator is not.

You just have to not be afraid to try them.

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Why are people wanting nerfs in a non-pvp game?

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MatyrGustav wrote...
What would happen if infiltrators get Incinerate, and use it with the cloak damage bonus? Tech GOD.
I think Bioware should lower Cloaks damage boost, and make it so that it only applies to weapons, because i really want to play Other classes, but the cloak damage boost while shooting a free power without a cooldown being activated, and still can shoot with the damage bonus is too good to pass up to play other classes.
Tactical Cloak needs serious balancing.


I'd believe the fact that you've played all the classes to 20, but that alone should have taught you something about what each class brings to the table.

Play Silver some, hm? Teammates with endless biotic explosion combos are almost always outracing my Black Widow for kills and scores. Sure, Tactical Cloak can help lay down some serious firepower for the opening shots, but it's costing us a cooldown we could otherwise be spending on escaping/running, or reviving someone, or getting an objective.

And for the record, most of the time when I Sabotage while cloaked, I barely have time to line up a shot before it decloaks. NOT TO MENTION the fact that my power cooldown is now affected by my Sabotage CD and not the cloak CD.

The cloak is far from needing balance. On Silver and Gold, enemies can pretty much see you anyway at mid-range. I don't see an overpopulation of Infiltrators in silver, so maybe you're just feeling insecure? Co-op game?

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OblivionDawn wrote...

If you really think Infiltrators are OP, you've never played Gold, or never played it without being carried.

And they don't kill variety, there are plenty of other builds that are effective in the areas that the Infiltrator is not.

You just have to not be afraid to try them.

All I play is gold.  I can beat it with any class.  Infiltrator is miles easier than any other class.

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MatyrGustav wrote...

I Have all classes at level 20, including Infiltrator.


I hope you contributed two of your 20's to operation raptor.

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nukular power wrote...
No lie, I saw a Salarian Infiltrator using only a Predator X score over 100k on gold the other day.  Thought he was trolling but whaddaya know


This, too. God, there's so many different options out there for builds. Maybe less so on Silver/Gold, but for crying out loud it's not like Bioware gives you less credits if you get outscored.

Predators are serious business, yo. Low weight needle shooters >.>

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BLASPHEMY !!!!!!!

#116
Tiamatshade

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PluralAces wrote...

Crimzoneyed wrote...

PluralAces wrote...

who maxes out proximity mine?

I do, it's king against enemies with armor and i don't need the extra health in fitness.


The only use I saw for it was against the atlas....and that was only bvecause he is big enough that the proximity mine doesnt miss...then again i could always try to shoot it at the floor against brutes and banshees, they move much faster though...


Proxy mines vs. Atlases? ... lol.

I sabotage the hell out of those groundpounders. Killed two phantoms in one wave with 'em.

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Opener please stop cutting off your nose to spite your face.

PC class nerfs help no one and harm everyone.

If you want to help your preferred class then ask for buffs.

Modifié par Shahadem, 02 avril 2012 - 09:24 .


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 No, absolutely not. I cannot believe someone would say this, please get rid of this topic before you're pleas end up crippling my favorite class and making it as useless as the falcon from that first patch:crying:

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MatyrGustav wrote...

The most played class is infiltrator, that means something.


That the other classes need buffs or armor should be CCable because there is no logical reason why Stasis should not affect it.

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Axialbloom wrote...

The capping and ressing is overpowered. But seeing as there is no PvP, they should buff others :P


Have you PLAYED an infiltrator in a rezzing/capping role? On anything above bronze?

Enemies are not blind on Silver and Gold. Get within earshot of them while cloaked, and it wont matter if you couldn't flick your cigarette on them. Lots of times when I try to rez my teammates, I get attacked while cloaked. Lots of times when I try to cap a node while cloaked, I'll still get stray bullets.

No, it's just fine the way it is. It requires proper timing and skill. Try it before you knock it.

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Bundin wrote...
The same can be said for some infiltrators on Silver: while everyone gets the same reward, if you never get a chance to leverage your class' advantages because your targets get sniped all the time, or if you get the feeling you're just an "overload bot" so the sniper can happily headshot whatever is coming in, that too can get repetitive and boring.
Noone likes to be massively one-upped. Not in pvp, but also not in coop.


I used to feel that way when I watched Vanguards jump around everywhere and solo half the wave.
I used to feel that way when asari adepts biotic exploded nearly all the wave to the moon.
I used to feel that way when a krogan charged everything in earshot with backhands.

And then I realized I wasn't dying. There is a place for feeling you're contributing, but we all need to keep our egos in check.

Modifié par Tiamatshade, 02 avril 2012 - 09:35 .


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MatyrGustav wrote...

I only play gold, so my judgment on tactical cloak is accurate.


We do need balancing in a COOP game. if there isnt any, then people would find out whats the strongest and only play that. Bioware wants all weapons and classes to be viable, when they see that no one is using SMG's, they buff it, and when everyone is using the FALCON they nerf it.


I couldn't stop laughing after reading that.

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Notice OP said Salarian Infiltrator...

Best Infiltrator is Salarian. Best engineer is Salarian.

Best race for MP is generally Salarian.

This only means one thing....nerf Salarians!

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Signed.Umad?

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hector000 wrote...

People need to stop asking for effing nerfs on a co-op game. Ask for buffs instead god damn it. What do you want even crappy teammates?


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