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Uranium23567

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I'm on normal difficulty and have done well so far, very few deaths, 1 or two times everyone got killed but no biggie.

Keep in mind, i'm only done about 10% of the game. And now, i'm stuck. Literally. in a back alley. bandits were no big deal. but I pissed off sir whats his name and hes fighting me anywhere I go from the alley, and my entire team goes down and NOT ONE of sir-d**k heads buddies go down, or even end up with half health.

more then that, the autosaves are all in the back alleys, so i'm esentially stuck, with no way. and i'm not fn starting over. THIS IS BULL. I enjoy a challenge but this is just insane. It RUINS the game. I've fought this guy and his buddies about 20-30 times without killing a single one

I just spend half an hour trying to get the console to work (steam...heh) so I can enable god mode to at least get past this part. console is wierd but didn't have time to finish it. its 5am and jeez i'm so tired and pissed. cursing up a storm. I should not HAVE to cheat to play a game through. be lucky there is a console or I would be getting my money back ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

did bioware even PLAYTEST this game? made some kind of difficulty adaptation for the game to realize you're getting your ass handed to you on a part out of nowhere?

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cJohnOne

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 You're suppose to do Redicliffe or the Circle tower first if you didn't do that as far as difficulty goes.

Modifié par cJohnOne, 02 avril 2012 - 01:19 .


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First and foremost, calm down. Things will only become more difficult if you get too worked up.

All right, now moving along...

Forgive me, but I'm a little confused. You say you're stuck in the alley with this Sir-What's His Name due to the auto-save feature? But don't you have any other previous saves? You don't just rely on auto-save, do you? If you do, I would ~highly~ recommend saving the game occasionally, separate from the auto-save. Once you get beyond this Sir person, that is.

As for this 'Sir' person, is it that arrogant, self-righteous knight who accosts the Warden in Denerim with accusations that "You murdered his friend. And good King Cailan"? If that's the 'Sir' you're referring - let's just now refer to him as Sir Arrogant since I cannot recall his name - to, then I don't recall there being any special trick or strategy for defeating him. Maybe your level is a bit low for him.

I'm not sure what you mean by enabling god mode, but you should be able to switch the game from Normal to casual easily enough. Sir Arrogant should be a breeze on casual mode. And once you're finally past him I'd strongly urge you to ~save~ and not rely completely on the auto-save function. ^.^

Otherwise I'm not really sure what the trouble is, this is the first time I've heard of this particular problem.

Added: For what cJohnOne said, no. You can beat Sir Arrogant at any time. It makes no difference when you run into him, at least not in my experience.

Modifié par Lethvienne, 02 avril 2012 - 11:51 .


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You can go anywhere you want, but the game is designed for you to do Redcliff first. It pretty much points you to the Circle and back, and then it points you to the city. On my way back from the Circle Tower, I triggered the DLC Return to Ostigar quest. I returned to Redcliff and was pointed to the Denerim. That's when I stopped off to do the Stone Prisoner DLC, then finished Return to Ostigar, and helped the Daylish elves out on my road to Denerim.

Before Return to Ostigar came out, I instead went the other way around while stopping to do "Warden's Keep" DLC instead on my way to Denerim. Even if you don't have the DLC, you will still be better off doing Redcliff and the Circle Tower before going to Denerim.

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It is possible to set the difficulty of the game to "easy" at any point in play. If you are playing at "normal" difficulty now, that change might help you to get out of the difficult situation you are presently in. Afterward, reset the difficulty to a level you find challenging but not impossible.

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If you meant Ser Landry (and there are conversation options to avoid fighting him, of course, particularly with high Coercion skill points), there are definitely options for winning it even at lower levels. To help you tactically I'd have to know your party- who is with you, what spells on your mages, what talents on your fighters/ rogues. Lots of spells can easily turn the tide even on the most powerful foes, and some heavy micromanaging with heavy use of Pause can work wonders as well. One thing that stands out about this fight in comparison with so many other tough ones: you can run. You're not trapped behind a wall or door or anything, and strategic retreats can give your chars time to recover their spells/ talents, down healing poultices, reposition, etc. Mind you, you can run back around the corner to get the archers off your back a few moments (and draw them closer to get at them), and there is always the tactic of running in circles while the rest of the party fires on the chaser(s) with ranged weapons. If one of your fighters has Taunt and a mage has Force Field... you can win this relatively handily. Two mages with Force Field and it's easy peasy.

Mind you, there is no real "do this part of the game first" since after Lothering options are open. Encounters generally scale accordingly, and the easiest area overall in my experience was the Brecilian Forest, not Redcliffe or the Circle Tower... relatively speaking...

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Oh Sir Landry I thought you were someplace else. Isn't that battle optional? Is it easier to duel him?

@Bhryaen  Hey you're an experienced player and play better than me but you're mistaken about Brecilan Forest being first in line. When I first got the game I think I did try going to different areas first. May be I learned about going to which areas first on these boards. The game hints you should go to redcliffe but most people know you should go to the Broken Circle quest first.  On the other hand some people go to  Denerim second but I sure don't.

Modifié par cJohnOne, 02 avril 2012 - 08:35 .


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Bhryaen

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@cJohnOne
I'm not so experienced, no, but I play constantly lol... When I can't I'm on the forum! My furthest playthrough where I got everything done up to Landsmeet (except for a few missed quest opportunities), I did the Brecilian Forest last... and was very surprised at how easy it was... Though I admit that doesn't pertain to 1. the ruins dragon, 2. the revenant/ undead battles, 3. the end battle (never have and never will side "with" werewolves- odd to even say "with" since they're then trapped forever as werewolves). And those battles are kinda 1/3 of the Brecilian Forest... but still! Otherwise I breezed through with a mage, Alistair, Sten, Leliana, and mediocre char builds. It'll be one of the last places I go again too- based on roleplay reasons, not ease...

The Circle Tower, on the other hand, can be tortuously difficult in numerous battles all the way up and then in the Fade, and especially against Uldred. But, given the allure of what you get from the Fade, I've tried going there immediately after Lothering only to get my hat handed to me in various fights. Still, eventually I prevail... after I'm done reloading repeatedly and instead figure out the effective tactical solution with what I've got to work with... Since most fights can be won one way or another at every level, and since all areas have harder and easier parts, I see no problem with any order of areas. Actually the end battle of Redcliffe is very long and tough every time for me, as were those bloody armor fiends in the castle and those zombie-rising-only-when-you're-too-far-in-to-turn-around fights, so I'm not sure how Redcliffe or the Tower gets the "easiest" vote.

That all said, I do agree that the game seems to lead you to Redcliffe first: Alistair pretty much declares his interest in you going, and he's likely to be in the party when you get the Redcliffe/ Urn quest intro. But for roleplay purposes, my dwarf wanted to return to Orzammar, my mage heard from Ser Chantryguy that the Tower was beset and wanted to return to the Tower, and when I ever get around to trying my Dalish elf archer or mage again, I'll be going straight to the Brecilian Forest first this time just to pursue that one, having been given an excuse to return to my people again after all.

Btw, I did a little test with Ser Landry for XP if you fight him or not and it's a lot more XP by fighting (and defeating) him (well, maybe 100 or so XP), but I'm not sure yet if that affects the later game. Like maybe Landry otherwise pops up later on your side after persuading him not to trust Loghain... Still exploring the game possibilities...

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Uranium23567

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oh I had no idea I could switch difficulty. I'll try that now.

I quicksave ALOT. I started quicksaving during the back alley quests in denerim. Hoping I could go back to the city for more health. but every time I try to go back, I he stops me.

I did tons of pausing/spec ability using every time during the fight (ever second or two). still same results. everyone in my party is level 7 or 8. I'm on my laptop right now but don't remember thier names. but my party is

me (warrior)
young magic lady from the wilds that has a awesome very revealing outfit
the guy from the cage in the second place I convinced the priestess to release
the red head from the same village (rouge)

i've been playing this game a day I don't remember thier names

I was actually pissed off at first when I bought it cause I thought it was more of an action rpg (like elder scrolls), not a rts rpg. but I'm loving it now

Modifié par Uranium23567, 03 avril 2012 - 02:06 .


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Uranium23567

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well I did it. only lost one. Seemed almost too easy, they need to make a slider for this

I found a note to the 'abandoned building' in the city. even on easy, I cannot finish the second wave of soldiers behind the metal door

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Uranium23567

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hey, I have dual weapons training, and an axe in my 'main hand' but do not have the ability to put one in my second hand

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I think you need to use a Dagger in you off-hand until you get Dual Weapon Mastery.


Yeah I just checked the Wiki.  It's Dual-Weapon Mastery in order to wield two full size weapons.

Modifié par cJohnOne, 03 avril 2012 - 04:58 .


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Ser Landry is one of the "gatekeeper encounters" in the game. Essentially, these are there to discourage you from entering areas that are too high for your level (i.e. if you have difficulties with them you should go somewhere else to level up). There is another such encounter when you go to Orzammar. As said above, Circle tower and Redcliffe are more suitable locations for low level characters.

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That abandoned warehouse is one of the harder side quests in the game. Consider saving it for when you're higher level.

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I just got finished with the mages tower.

I like dream sequences in games, but this one was a pain in the ass. not the difficulty, but moving about going back to where I did not want to be over and over. FINALLY I figured out I had to morph to the golem and spirit form to continue

but one thing that REALLY pissed me off, is somewhere, my dragon armor disappeared. I've been leveling my strength up to wear it and its suddenly gone! I never sold it! errg

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Uranium23567

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ahahaha. when I got done with the mages tower, suddenly I started walking like I had s**t in my pants. I exited and started it back up and I walked normally

Modifié par Uranium23567, 04 avril 2012 - 03:34 .


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appearently the armor missing is a bug in the game (related to the mages tower). using the console fonts and the additem script I was able to give myself them back, I had purchased all but the boots anyways (which I did purchase before I did the additem cheat). not really a cheat when you think about it, more like a fix bioware never bothered fixing themselfs

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The difficulty on this game can seem insane if you don't know how to powerbuild (spec) and gear right. The second piece of the puzzle is configuring a good party with good tactics. Once I learned how to do those two things I went from struggling to kill trash on normal to doing no-pause playthroughs on nightmare.

Check out the character build forums here on this site as well as gamefaqs. It's crazy what a difference it makes.

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yeah i've started to get into the tactics too. but they're not perfect, infact sometimes they flat out don't work. hell sometimes I click on an enemy and my team member will just ignore me!

oh yeah and the tactics isn't all correct ether. Morrigin can do this gliph to knock enemies back, and I want to say "if ally is clustered with 3 or more enemies" -> use the glyph (at that enemy, knocking the enemies down and giving my allies some nice breathing room, oh and a chance to strike)

but it dosen't list it on that ally menu, only the enemy. BS

Modifié par Uranium23567, 06 avril 2012 - 07:36 .


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thats it! i'm finished! on easy I get my ass kicked every time coming out after killing the guys mage to free the the chick behind the magic barrier

i'm on easy, even though my health drops below 50% the tactics doesn't use the polutice, infact I find the tactics sometimes JUST DON'T WORK EVER. for wynne they work (self->any) activate rock armor and flaming weapons. but morrigan has the same thing for tk weapons but hers NEVER does it.

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Just a quick note about tactics; they cycle in the order you set them in. So if you have use heath in the bottom slot then all the other tactics will come up before that one. Also I've abandoned using health or mana potions as set tactics because the get wasted a lot when the fighting is over.

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As a matter of fact I have most of my tactics set up just for auto attacks and I can decide when to use what. Because Morrigan doesn't need to throw a mind blast the same time as a scatter shot or dogs dread howl.

If your playing the PC version go to dragonage.nexusmods.com there's all kind of stuff to help you out.  

Modifié par r3dKrypt0nite, 09 avril 2012 - 04:04 .


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I'm sorry I still don't know where you are. The description: after killing the guys mage to frree the chick behind the magic barrier. I don't remember a chick behind a magic barrier.

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the **** arl's estate, he imprisoned his daughter, had to go down into the basement and kill the mage that put up the magical barrier keeping her inside her room

its after I get up from the basement, all the guards attack, and those damn mabari's knocking me down. morrigan has it set to (if ally fall, stun, paralyze) -> forcefield. which helps drastically ONCE, but I get knocked down again by another damn dog before it has time to recharge

Modifié par Uranium23567, 09 avril 2012 - 09:50 .


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ah, I always lose that battle and end up in a cell and escape from the cell. You'll be done with the game in no time at this rate.


Edit:  you can also choose to have two companions to rescue you from the cell.  I beleve Dog and Sten are suppose to be funny ones.

Modifié par cJohnOne, 09 avril 2012 - 12:33 .