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[Han Shot First]

I pity her to an extent.

It has to suck to have a character you voiced in game be hated and ripped more mercilessly than even Jacob was after Mass Effect 2. Also, she isn't an actress. The blame for the bad performance really lies with Bioware and its bad casting decision.

[Joy Sauce]

Who dug up this fossil of a thread? It's not like this is the only Chobot thread to choose from...

[FlamingBoy]

Joy Sauce wrote...

Who dug up this fossil of a thread? It's not like this is the only Chobot thread to choose from...

just like in real life, fossils may be old but still relevant:P

[Nefla]

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She got paid, she got a chance to be in a Mass Effect game, with a character based on herself. A chance many fans would kill for. She could have put in the time and effort to practice and do a good job but she didn't even try. It sounded like she was reading off of a piece of paper. You can't coast by on your looks when people can't see you.

[chemiclord]

Nefla wrote...

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She got paid, she got a chance to be in a Mass Effect game, with a character based on herself. A chance many fans would kill for. She could have put in the time and effort to practice and do a good job but she didn't even try. It sounded like she was reading off of a piece of paper. You can't coast by on your looks when people can't see you.

On the contrary, I think Chobot tried very hard.  It wouldn't make sense for her not to.

She just doesn't have experience as a voice actress.

You can say her work was bad, without trying to slander her effort.  That's just being mean for the sake of being mean.

[Nefla]

I wasn't trying to be mean, to me she just really sounds like she was reading off something and not trying at all.

[chemiclord]

Because she was reading off something.

All voice actors read off a script. The good ones make it sound like they aren't.

I don't think anyone is going to pretend Chobot was a good voice actress. She tried. She just wasn't all that good.

Modifié par chemiclord, 31 mai 2012 - 06:31 .

[N0-Future]

Do I feel sorry for her? No, she got paid.... I hate her character in the game, the time and effort could have been spent on polishing up the SP campaign rather than making all that effort for better ratings by IGN and that's all it was lets not fool ourselves...

[Nefla]

chemiclord wrote...

Because she was reading off something.

All voice actors read off a script. The good ones make it sound like they aren't.

I don't think anyone is going to pretend Chobot was a good voice actress. She tried. She just wasn't all that good.

Why accept the offer at all then if you have absolutely zero talent for it? If someone asked me to play basketball in a movie about pro basketball where I would be prominently featured on the screen I'd be like "ah maybe you should find someone who can actually do that?" Why embarass yourself and be detrimental to the game as a whole?

[comrade gando]

I recall her tweeting at one point telling gamers they're entitled whiners or something like that. Well bite me then lady, youre exactly whats wrong with the industry.

[ohiocat110]

Who is going to turn down a paycheck to be in one of the biggest video games of all time? She's in the media, so selling her image is part of her job. It may not have been particularly wise to agree to becoming a romance option, but would anybody here really say "oh no thanks, I'm not a very good VA" if given the chance? Hell no. You ignore the trolls and put ME3 on your resume.

[Xellith]

I want to know how it even came up to add her into the game.

[Omanisat]

Her situation brings to mind the saying "don't hate the player, hate the game."

I agree Allers was a terrible throw-away character, but I draw the line at insulting Chobot herself. She's a fan of the series who was offered a chance to voice a character and took it. If it was me I'd have done the same thing and been just as bad.

[fainmaca]

It was a horribly misguided move to include her in the game. As far as I can see, she has no training in VO work, and she's never seemed like a huge figure in the Mass Effect fanbase (I'd certainly never heard of her before ME3), so the fan pandering angle doesn;'t really work either. After you eliminate those, the only thing that remains is putting IGN in a good mood.

Aside from that, the comments she made on those unhappy with the game, the ones that she had to retract (almost as quickly as Garrus moves through an antique shop lacking in class), didn't help her case, at all.

If Bioware had kept to the tradition I thought they were establishing of having a former Star Trek actor/actress voice a bad guy (Benezia, Uvenk, Flemeth), that would have sat better with the fans.

In short, it was Bioware drunk at the wheel, not Chobot.

[Iceyonline]

Me: "Javik?"
Javik: "Yes?"
Me: "Throw Diana Allers out the airlock."
Javik: "At last!"

[ohiocat110]

fainmaca wrote...

If Bioware had kept to the tradition I thought they were establishing of having a former Star Trek actor/actress voice a bad guy (Benezia, Uvenk, Flemeth), that would have sat better with the fans.

In short, it was Bioware drunk at the wheel, not Chobot.

Run Michael Dorn through a subwoofer as a Reaper voice and players would be wetting their pants.

[mupp3tz]

Honestly, yeah a little bit. If you were in her shoes, you wouldn't say YES to have a cameo in ME3? How was she supposed to know that the game would turn out to be the biggest s***show and that literally every single component of the game would be ripped to shreds and analyzed for meaning, necessity, etc.

If anything, I'm irritated the most with Bioware who (evidently) gave very bad direction/suggestions to her during VA and who decided to allocate resources ineffectively.

[ArchDuck]

Arokel wrote...

I think it is her affiliation with IGN that is causing more hate than her... interesting performance.

^

Though I do feel a bit sorry for her. It is not entirely her fault that Bioware tried to manipulate IGN and the fanbase so obviously.

Another part of the issue with her is also Biowares fault. Namely her replacing a decently liked character  that was childishly killed over twitter for the lolz.

[ArchDuck]

fainmaca wrote...

It was a horribly misguided move to include her in the game. As far as I can see, she has no training in VO work, and she's never seemed like a huge figure in the Mass Effect fanbase (I'd certainly never heard of her before ME3), so the fan pandering angle doesn;'t really work either. After you eliminate those, the only thing that remains is putting IGN in a good mood.

Aside from that, the comments she made on those unhappy with the game, the ones that she had to retract (almost as quickly as Garrus moves through an antique shop lacking in class), didn't help her case, at all.

If Bioware had kept to the tradition I thought they were establishing of having a former Star Trek actor/actress voice a bad guy (Benezia, Uvenk, Flemeth), that would have sat better with the fans.

In short, it was Bioware drunk at the wheel, not Chobot.

I never read those comments but I completely agree with the last part.

[Jayleia]

Veggiesofmanycolors wrote...

She worked so hard to provide a good performance yet failed so miserably and now Bioware fans are ripping her to shreds.  If an employee does a crappy job, I don't get pissed at the employee, I take the blame out on the idiot who hired him or her.
If anything we should be mad at Bioware for hiring such a talentless person to voice a worthless character.  We should stop being so mean to Jessica Chobot because even though she sucks, she still probably gave it her all.

I agree.  There was at least one scene where she was talking about where she came from, it wasn't great, but it did sound like there was a potentially good talent, if she works at it.  But it wasn't a good talent THEN, and for the crown piece of an epic, it should have been good already.

The model/textures were bad, and those were not made by her, so I can't blame her.  Some of the writing was bad, but she just read what they gave her.

But the fact that she works for IGN, and IGN told us how epic ME3 was, and how crap we were for complaining about the ending...but that's no reason to get such a personal dislike against her, especially if she didn't write those bits at IGN.

[Goaliebot]

The only thing I fault her for is:

Jessica Chobot wrote...
and "NO" I haven't finished ME3 yet....and "NO" I don't want to know anything more about
the babsolutly RIDICULOUS whine-fest that entitled gamers are having with Bioware

Everything else to do with it (replacing Wong, poorly written character, bad in-game model, reviewers and devs looking like they're getting in bed together) I fault Bioware and IGN for.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I've wondered if Bioware cast her to protect themselves against the conservative right-wing-nut anti-gay backlash from the likes of FNC because both FNC and IGN is owned by News Corp.

I can't and won't say with 100% accuracy that FNC won't attack something that the parent company owns or has a stake in, or if an another employee is in, but from what I've seen if they do it's no where near as harsh.

If that is the case then the casting of Chobot as a bisexual fling/LI would be a smart and very cynical (even downright mean) move to keep the morons at FNC at bay by creating a conflict of intrest. Now if they attack the various LGB love interests in the games, all someone has to do is to point out that:: "Jessica Chobot is an employee of IGN, a News Corp company, plays a bisexual love interest in the game and that by attacking Mass Effect 3 you are essentially attacking your own company and employees."  It's about the one conflict of interest where FNC has problems dealing with protecting the profits of News Corp and spouting their nonsesne. Most times in cases like these they generally tend to side with protecting the profits of News Corp.

It's just a thought.  

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 31 mai 2012 - 05:20 .

[Xeranx]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

I've wondered if Bioware cast her to protect themselves against the conservative right-wing-nut anti-gay backlash from the likes of FNC because both FNC and IGN is owned by News Corp.

I can't and won't say with 100% accuracy that FNC won't attack something that the parent company owns or has a stake in, or if an another employee is in, but from what I've seen if they do it's no where near as harsh.

If that is the case then the casting of Chobot as a bisexual fling/LI would be a smart and very cynical (even downright mean) move to keep the morons at FNC at bay by creating a conflict of intrest. Now if they attack the various LGB love interests in the games, all someone has to do is to point out that:: "Jessica Chobot is an employee of IGN, a News Corp company, plays a bisexual love interest in the game and that by attacking Mass Effect 3 you are essentially attacking your own company and employees."  It's about the one conflict of interest where FNC has problems dealing with protecting the profits of News Corp and spouting their nonsesne. Most times in cases like these they generally tend to side with protecting the profits of News Corp.

It's just a thought.  

If that was the case, then there shouldn't have been a lingerie shower scene.  Keep in mind that Fox News' nonsense over ME concerned nudity mostly and focused little on the fact that female Shepard could romance Liara.

[clarkusdarkus]

it's just another gimmick regarding ME3 along with MP, mobile apps, killing ppl off on twitter, they assumed we all love IGN and think she's hot and wanna nerd bash her.