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[Carlthestrange]

In truth, I don't even want to play Diablo 3. Modern games are just going in a direction that I have no interest in.

[frylock23]

chuck butcher wrote...

I don't get what some of you would have Bioware do with the Savior of the Galaxy? Where would the story go if Shepard survived - Emperor Shepard? What challenges would you folks buy into that he could get up to after The Reapers? When you finished ME1 you had to know where this was going to go if one of the games finished off the Reapers - surely you didn't picture Shepard on the island sipping fruity drinks.

Once I'd played ME1&2 I knew how they were going to end and still did the DLCs and buying ME3 I took Bioware at their word that ME3 was the final confrontation with the Reapers. That means I knew the thing was ending - ending, not to be continued with further adventures of Shepard and whatever version of the Normandy. Yes, I invested in the characters, I was supposed to, and yes, I was sad to come to the end of those investments. That is what I bought, pre-ordered.

You don't get it. I don't need her to get up to challenges. She's earned a break. She's earned peace. My Sheps want to retire, or at least do normal soldier stuff. They're pretty much done saving the known universe.

Just because BioWare might leave them alive doesn't mean that I'll be demanding more games for them. I don't demand more books  with living protagonists.

As to the OP:

I have no desire to buy DLC that doesn't address the endings. I have no issue with them leaving the ones that are there alone, but I think they need to add the other 13 endings they promised us, so that we do indeed get the 16 wildly different ones the reflect our choices and all the variables.

And if they decide to make a stand to prove some kind of point. Well, kudos to them. It's too bad that they forgot the #1 rule of successful business - the customer is always right. And they can keep their 3 crappy, depressing nonsensical endings, and I'll keep the rest of my hard-earned cash. I'm sure there's an up and coming developer out there who knows how to let the hero win on occasion.

[FirstWiseman87]

what will i do? well i will shut out bioware and just give my money to other developers who deserve it, i really looked forward to da3 but i will be cautious, ill have to see gameplay and basically spoil it so im not dissapointed, but as of now, screw dlc, i aint dishin out nothing more for ME, ill just replay ME 1 and 2 and pretend 2 is the end, lol. honestly though, what were they thinking?

[soozy]

I'd stop buying bioware games all together. After the disappointment of DA2, SWTOR (the stories were nice but everything else...), and now ME3...it's not a good investment of $60.00-$80.00 anymore, especially if they are not willing to compromise and give us what they had promised.

And to fix the ending? Trying to please everyone is going to be impossible, but I think Bioware can salvage player trust if they tried to address the largest portion of concerns with the resources they currently have. I'd be happy if they just give us some indication that everything wasn't blown up by the mass relays, that people would be able to get back to their planets and aren't stranded (likely to all die) on Earth. I'm used to unhappy endings lately in games and film, however killing off ALL of your characters doesn't make me want to buy another Bioware game in the future if there's no point to developing the relationships that you do.

Modifié par soozy, 02 avril 2012 - 06:31 .

[Karrie788]

iakus wrote...

Walk away.

Because then I'll know that the Bioware of Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, and Dragon Age Origins is truly gone.

Same.

[Dot.Shadow]

No fix = No more purchases of Bioware games or products, which is a real shame. Mass Effect was my THING. Seeing it go down the drain will be difficult.

[Randalf84]

Move on and make a mental note to avoid Bioware.

[Creepter]

If they do nothing at all to change this mess? Then I'll hand my head in mourning and remember the good times I have had with this universe. The games, the novels, the comic, the music, the characters. I'll remember the greatness.

And then I'll say goodbye to Bioware and move on.

[dakilla171192]

I will destroy my Bioware products and burn something down

[RestARose13]

chuck butcher wrote...

I don't get what some of you would have Bioware do with the Savior of the Galaxy? Where would the story go if Shepard survived - Emperor Shepard? What challenges would you folks buy into that he could get up to after The Reapers? When you finished ME1 you had to know where this was going to go if one of the games finished off the Reapers - surely you didn't picture Shepard on the island sipping fruity drinks.

Once I'd played ME1&2 I knew how they were going to end and still did the DLCs and buying ME3 I took Bioware at their word that ME3 was the final confrontation with the Reapers. That means I knew the thing was ending - ending, not to be continued with further adventures of Shepard and whatever version of the Normandy. Yes, I invested in the characters, I was supposed to, and yes, I was sad to come to the end of those investments. That is what I bought, pre-ordered.

I believe some of the problems people have with the endings is that there is a lack of choice and it goes against what we expected from BioWare.  I have Shepards who would gladly die for the sake of the galaxy, but I have others that would rather like the live.  In the current ending, the only way I can get my Shep to live is to commit genocide.  The other endings only offer a different kind of genocide or enslavement of a race of machines that tried to harvest you and that there is no guarentee that control will last forever.  I knew BioWare was drawing from World War II as an example for the set up in ME3, I just didn't think it would include Hitler's final solution.

The second problem I mentioned is that the ending that we got is not what we would have expected from BioWare, despite what impression you get from the ME series. This comes from not only past BioWare games, but what BioWare promised in the pre-release promotional statements.

Shepard being alive at the end does not mean that she would go to sipping drinks on a beach at the end.  The galaxy just got done with a major war.   Things cannot go back to normal.  Normality has been lost.  Billions upon billions are dead.  People need to mourn, to rebuild.  Even what might be considered a "happy" ending is still bittersweet.  There are so many dead and there has been so much destruction, but you can still look forward to tomorrow.  I would want my Shepard to be alive to be part of that.

[soozy]

Hihane wrote...
I believe some of the problems people have with the endings is that there is a lack of choice and it goes against what we expected from BioWare.  I have Shepards who would gladly die for the sake of the galaxy, but I have others that would rather like the live.  In the current ending, the only way I can get my Shep to live is to commit genocide.  The other endings only offer a different kind of genocide or enslavement of a race of machines that tried to harvest you and that there is no guarentee that control will last forever.  I knew BioWare was drawing from World War II as an example for the set up in ME3, I just didn't think it would include Hitler's final solution.

The second problem I mentioned is that the ending that we got is not what we would have expected from BioWare, despite what impression you get from the ME series. This comes from not only past BioWare games, but what BioWare promised in the pre-release promotional statements.

Shepard being alive at the end does not mean that she would go to sipping drinks on a beach at the end.  The galaxy just got done with a major war.   Things cannot go back to normal.  Normality has been lost.  Billions upon billions are dead.  People need to mourn, to rebuild.  Even what might be considered a "happy" ending is still bittersweet.  There are so many dead and there has been so much destruction, but you can still look forward to tomorrow.  I would want my Shepard to be alive to be part of that.

I agree with this 100%, I guess I'm too skeptical about whether this can be achieved now. I am currently asking Bioware to fix the least amount of the problems, however maybe if I start asking for the best case scenario more will come out of that (yeah, just one voice, but...at least I could say I tried).

[MPWLKER]

I'll keep playing Bioware products and DLC content for ME3.
However, instead of purchasing them at bestbuy or online, I think I’ll be swinging by the Piratebay to ‘pick’ them up.

[FKA_Servo]

MPWLKER wrote...

I'll keep playing Bioware products and DLC content for ME3.
However, instead of purchasing them at bestbuy or online, I think I’ll be swinging by the Piratebay to ‘pick’ them up.

Because rampant piracy won't encourage the very behavior that everyone has spent the better part of a month railing against. Right.

Good way to get a forum ban, though.

[NovaM4]

MPWLKER wrote...

I'll keep playing Bioware products and DLC content for ME3.
However, instead of purchasing them at bestbuy or online, I think I’ll be swinging by the Piratebay to ‘pick’ them up.

That sucks about having a f*ck computer and only play games on your Xbox360..
Then i could download that sh*t from piratebay too..

[Hexley UK]

MPWLKER wrote...

I'll keep playing Bioware products and DLC content for ME3.
However, instead of purchasing them at bestbuy or online, I think I’ll be swinging by the Piratebay to ‘pick’ them up.

That's just wrong m8, if you don't like what they are making don't buy it.

If your gonna play it anyway then you should pay for it.

[Ryuzetsu]

I've abandoned an entire half of my family for something they did, trust me if I can do that to them, a video game developer is nothing to me. Grudge accomplished.

[Menalaos1971]

What will I do if Bioware doesn't fix the Endings?

If all they do is "clarify" and provide "closure" which I read as explain the existing Ending so we non-artists can understand it, and tack on a text Epilogue, then I'm done with Bioware games. Bethesda will be my RPG company, and I can still count on Rockstar to make some really epic games. New devs pop up all the time, too. Maybe the next "Bioware" is working on the next great RPG franchise right now.

If they actually go back and "Broken Steel" the Ending, and don't make things worse with an even more non-sensical Ending, then I'll forgive them and buy more DLCs. I played Fallout 3 from day 1 and I hated how it just ended, and the existing ending was crap, too, so getting to go back and "fix" the ending turned out to be a great move. I ended up buying that DLC, plus 3 more, and I can't wait for Fallout 4.

[LTKerr]

Bye Bioware, hello again Valve/Bethesda/Obsidian/Eidos...

[irishScott3]

Essentially they'll never see another dollar out of me and anyone I can (and will) convince.

[Bizantura]

I was sold a lie but that is not the problem...
I bought their lie and that was my problem...

If they don't fix the endings I will move on, no sense in buying other dlc for a broken game.
Oh... and cured from buying a lie from them forever...

[Straw_foot]

Sell my Bioware games (Dragon age series, Mass Effect series) and wait for Diablo 3.

[Firesaber82]

I've thought alot about this topic the past couple years honestly. Dragon Age 2 had me VERY conflicted on what ME3 was going to be like. I blindly went into DA2 and came out a little sour on how 'mediocre' the game was and how the mechanics from Mass Effect were forced into a game they didn't belong (even if they work in Mass Effect). I could not for the life of me figure out how they thought changing the genre from traditional RPG to Action RPG would go over well.

Then, 2 days before ME3 released, my wife talked me into getting ME3 (she could tell I was struglling haha). So i preordered from Gamestop as I don't trust Origin yet and wanted the physical copy should I be unable to download from Origin 5 years from now.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what they were thinking with the entire 'Earth' segment of this game. Rewatch the 'Taking Back Earth' trailer. They show Hammerheads, Makos, and ships including the Normandy involved in battles on Earth. Where was that ending? I mean even leaving the kinda out of genre ending (we went from talky techy sci fi like Star Trek to space magic but that's a whole other point)...If the Take Back Earth segment had given us a hybrid Suicide Mission, command of our forces (like in DAO where you could deploy the armies you'd amassed), I think you'd see less complaining. If we'd even just have seen 5 second clips or segements showing us the Rachni, the Krogans...something to make that number mean something....

So I went on a rant there, but TL;DR, I am very VERY wary of Bioware's offerings now. My wife and I are HUGE Command & Conquer fans, and especially of Generals. I don't even know if we'll touch Generals 2 at launch. I almost wonder if another 5 years Bioware will go away just lke Westwood.

Lets not even mention the things promised even up to a month before release that aren't there (that bit really makes me furious)

Modifié par Firesaber82, 02 avril 2012 - 07:17 .

[Kaija]

MPWLKER wrote...

I'll keep playing Bioware products and DLC content for ME3.
However, instead of purchasing them at bestbuy or online, I think I’ll be swinging by the Piratebay to ‘pick’ them up.

You don't have to pirate games for it to hurt. One way to "put your money where your mouth is" if you want to play a future game from Bioware or EA is to not preorder, wait until the price goes down, and trade in games at gamestop for a used copy. Legal way to accomplish almost the same thing.

[LadyWench]

Firesaber82 wrote...

I've thought alot about this topic
the past couple years honestly. Dragon Age 2 had me VERY conflicted on
what ME3 was going to be like. I blindly went into DA2 and came out a
little sour on how 'mediocre' the game was and how the mechanics from
Mass Effect were forced into a game they didn't belong (even if they
work in Mass Effect). I could not for the life of me fogure out how
they thought changing the genre from traditional RPG to Action RPG would
go over well.

THIS. Not buy any DLC or spin-off games for this franchise. Keep my fingers crossed that Dragon Age 3 is better (I'm not going to lie and say no more Bioware ever, unless DA3 is a hot mess, lol). Possibly not pre-order any Bioware stuff anymore like I did with ME3...at least not sight unseen.

Modifié par LadyWench, 02 avril 2012 - 07:17 .

[SinnSly]

MP only then =l
Just play MP, cause I see no point in playng SP just to be disapointed and more depressed everytime I complete it