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#1
Fraservet

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http://www.eurogamer...-origins-review

Gives it an absolute mauling - but still gives an 8/10 for some reason.

Sounds like the reviewer just plain doesn't like the type of game this is - quotes Oblivion and WOW several times!

Gives it a bashing for having so much dialogue and story - obviously doesn't realise that's what it's all about.

Completely contradicts most of the other reviews in many areas.

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I love some of the comments on this review though:



"There's a huge gulf between the completely mindless Easy and the demanding Normal. On the latter, you'll either have to be a Tactics genius or prepared to pause and micro-manage frequently to get through tougher fights, and even veteran RPG players with a full command of the game's skills will find some regular pulls or mini-bosses turning into epic wars of attrition that will drain their stocks of consumables. That's all fair enough, of course, but without a smooth step up from Easy, it cramps what should have been an expansive middle ground for novice players who wanted to get deeper into the game. Dragon Age is either a pushover or a hardcore RPG. "





"More complex battles are better undertaken in the top-down view (only in this PC version)." <---This screenshot is prime Baldur's Gate style.

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Madlax27

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Oh as an on topic note:



Eurogamer to me has always seemed like the "punk kid" of the Game reviewers. Always wanting to be "different" and cause up a stir and saying "F you mom" 10 times a day.

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Some of his complaints where a bit off center, but that review was far from an absolute mauling, man.



For every complaint, he had a "but..."

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Double post

Modifié par allothernamesweretaken, 03 novembre 2009 - 08:23 .


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I think it is clear that the reviewer wanted another game than he actually got. Seems like he expected more of a action rpg than an actual role playing game. He even starts by calling all games with levelling in it rpg's....

Seen in that light it is no surprise that he ends on an 8, which is fairly high for a game that he clearly does not like.

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Eurogamer usually smashes down alot of games anyway. Seems like he didn't even bother to read lore and the codex or didn't even give the game a chance to begin with with comments like this.



Dragon Age is sorely lacking in the things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any game for that matter: vision, inspiration, soul.





Lost my interest in that review after that. :)

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eurogamer gave oblivion and fallout 3 10/10 ...

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Alkoholi wrote...

Eurogamer usually smashes down alot of
games anyway. Seems like he didn't even bother to read lore and the
codex or didn't even give the game a chance to begin with with comments
like this.

Dragon Age is sorely
lacking in the things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any
game for that matter: vision, inspiration, soul.



Lost my interest in that review after that. :)

I think you should quote a little more than just that part of the sentence.

And although it's a work of great accomplishment and craftsmanship -
and no small amount of ambition - Dragon Age is sorely lacking in the
things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any game for that
matter: vision, inspiration, soul.


The review is not all negative. But it's obvious that the reviewer feels that something is lacking.

It has summoned an entire world into existence in the most meticulous
detail, but failed to give it an identity beyond the blandest cliché.



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Terwox_

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That's coz the unfocused generic sandbox rpg's are the big hype nowadays.

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Terwox_

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That's coz the unfocused generic sandbox rpg's are the big hype nowadays.

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Terwox_

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That's coz the unfocused generic sandbox rpg's are the big hype nowadays.

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Terwox_

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That's coz the unfocused generic sandbox rpg's are the big hype nowadays.

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Davidus wrote...

eurogamer gave oblivion and fallout 3 10/10 ...


ye they where both done by Kristen Reed though, think the guy who reviewed it doesn't like RPG's much, complaining about to much dialog?

just looks like who got he got told by his boss to review it, not really wanting to play through a 60+ hour game:P

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For some reason this review sound fairly positive to me. Probably because I felt like all the negative points he mentioned were more or less his opinion, and my opinion would be somewhat different based on his comparisons to other games that I have actually played.

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Regardless it's not gonna stop the game from selling massive, Eurogamer is incredibly harsh, 8/10 usually translates to 9s for other websites

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Pardon me, but Eurogamer knows **** about rating an RPG...oblivino for me was a total dissapointement...I would barely would have given it 6/10 beacsue it is tosimple and stupid...like it was made for retards...but thats just my opinion...the graphics were good at that time but the level design wasn't good at all(nearly every cave looked the same)...the voice acting was horrible, the main plot stupid and unrealistic (recapturing a town with 4 guards on your side...) and I particularly hated the stupid level scaling...it took me 300 mods to make the game acceptable and then I noticed it wasn't worth it...and fallout 3...Bethesda killed everything fallout 1 and 2 stood for...it was like oblivion in the future(well a bit more polished and diversified so I'd give it a 8/10)...eurogamer knows nothing of RPGs and I mean true RPGs like baldur's gate, neverwinter nights, planescape torment (and I hope Dragon Age: Origins) and they only like simple and stupid action rpgs like oblivion...

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Seriously, I'm the biggest BioWare fanboy I know, but I'm finding this neverending trend of people saying any review that doesn't give the game a 9/10 or above is horribly biased, poorly written or trying to be contrary comes off as really silly and sour, especially since most of people haven't really played the game yet. No wonder game review scores are inflated. It's a good score!



As one of the lucky people who got the game yesterday, though, I highly recommend starting your first game as either a city elf or dwarf commoner if you want to see an unothodox opening story which leads to more interesting conversations later on. Not to say you can't make a case that it's a game that sticks by traditional fantasy story-telling a little too closely and doesn't take enough risks, but the reviews that complain the story is too generic seemed to have also gone for the most generic option (human noble) as well.

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EPICCCCC FAILLL

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Davidus wrote...

eurogamer gave oblivion and fallout 3 10/10 ...



Eurogamer wrote
you have to look back to 2006's Oblivion to find the last globally significant solo adventure in swords and sorcery

Dragon Age is sorely lacking in the things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any game for that matter: vision, inspiration, soul.

.....failed to give it an identity beyond the blandest cliché. It has
created living characters that respond like humans, but speak like
dictionaries and move like mannequins.


'nuff said.

If I had not played Oblivion, I would believe Oblivion has all of these and can you imagine they even criticize the voice action as saying "speak like dictonaries"?

an Oblivion diehard :x

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He compares it to Bethesda and ****ing WoW. This man is obviously not a fan of truly engrossing epic RPG's and instead likes to get his RPG-Lite on.



Enough reason for me to ignore this review completely.




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Davidus wrote...

eurogamer gave oblivion and fallout 3 10/10 ...



Eurogamer wrote
you have to look back to 2006's Oblivion to find the last globally significant solo adventure in swords and sorcery

Dragon Age is sorely lacking in the things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any game for that matter: vision, inspiration, soul.

.....failed to give it an identity beyond the blandest cliché. It has
created living characters that respond like humans, but speak like
dictionaries and move like mannequins.


'nuff said.

If I had not played Oblivion, I would believe Oblivion has all of these and can you imagine they even criticize the voice action as saying "speak like dictonaries"?

an Oblivion diehard :x

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Davidus wrote...



eurogamer gave oblivion and fallout 3 10/10 ...






you have to look back to 2006's Oblivion to find the last globally significant solo adventure in swords and sorcery



Dragon Age is sorely lacking in the things that make a truly great role-playing game, or any game for that matter: vision, inspiration, soul.



.....failed to give it an identity beyond the blandest cliché. It has

created living characters that respond like humans, but speak like

dictionaries and move like mannequins.




'nuff said.



If I had not played Oblivion, I would believe Oblivion has all of these and can you imagine they even criticize the voice action as saying "speak like dictonaries"?



an Oblivion diehard :x

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That guy wanted to play something other than an RPG I think. He clearly doesn't understand the kind of game this is. Maybe he just has different taste. Totally open ended games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 drive me up a wall. I like having a bit of direction in my story, and they give me too much freedom for my liking.



Granted, I watched a cousin play Fallout 3, and the story was cool...as long as I was watching and not having to play myself.



So maybe the reviewer is just the opposite of me and, as I don't like the kind of game he seems to wish this was, he doesn't like this kind. Wonder if he played (liked) KotOR or ME?

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Sounds like it hurt his ego when "Normal" was too hard for him.



It's fine by me. Pausing and micromanaging was what I wanted to be needed on the harder difficulties.