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[Dranks]

I'd be happy that I was right. If it isn't that then I will not judge whatever they come up with until I see it in its entirety.

[Leafs43]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

They can do better than IT, but if that's what they do then whatever... better than leaving as it is...

Can they do better than IT?  Probably

Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

[Element Zero]

I'd be happy. It's the only way to get rid of this Star-Jar Catalyst BS, whose presence and implementation ruined the series.

[veramis]

I would demand Acayvos get paid $50,000 for doing bioware's work.

[Mcfly616]

AtlasMickey wrote...

I wouldn't be mad. I'd think it too funny and absurd.

Some of you think that those of us who like the ending as it is told, without the noxious delusions offered by IT, would be mad that we were "fooled." No, BioWare has clearly stated that IT is false in the epilogue. If they turned around and said it was true, they would be going back on their own statements. IT means removing the ending and replacing it, not clarifying it.

"Bioware clearly stated IT is false in the epilogue": umm No

"IT means removing the ending and replacing it...": ummm NO...have you even read the Indoctrination Theory....?


Quit trolling buddy....get educated

Modifié par Mcfly616, 02 avril 2012 - 09:37 .

[Tov01]

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

[Daerog]

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

Would be better to redo the whole ending.

[Tov01]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

Would be better to redo the whole ending.

Exactly.

[Bhatair]

Sorry, I just think the time has come and gone for them to come out and say IT was the plan all along. It's been a month, there is a huge fan outcry over the ending in the game and a 1000+ page thread speculating on indoctrination. Besides there is no logical reason to remove the ending after the twist unless they wanted to sell it to us later, which I would find despicable.

Would IT have been awesome? Yes, I like it much better than what we actually got. It's up there with the whole "Would you kindly?" twist from Bioshock in terms of cleverness. I'm too cynical to actually believe Bioware intended it though and if they did, well screw them I'm not paying extra for what should have been part of the game from the get go.

Extra missions? Extra weapons? Sure, that's acceptable as DLC. The ending to a trilogy? No, that is just blatant exploitation.

Modifié par Bhatair, 02 avril 2012 - 09:49 .

[Tiax Rules All]

I would be insanely excited.

[Prism]

I would be pleased, since it is probably one of the very few scenarios in which they don't have to rewrite anything but still have a chance at a good, real ending.

[Tiax Rules All]

veramis wrote...

I would demand Acayvos get paid $50,000 for doing bioware's work.

while I give that dude serious serious props for the amazing video. I don't believe he "invented" the idea. He gives credit to the forums and community at the end. Even then. If IT is the DLC, then it was planned all along. Bioware wouldn't roll with something and claim it was intended. no matter what you think of them atm.

[Leafs43]

Tov01 wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

Would be better to redo the whole ending.

Exactly.

But they have already have explicitly said they are not rewriting the ending.  That's one of the only real specific things they have said.

So other than the IT (because IT requires the endings to stay the same), the only thing they can try and do is fill the grand canyon-esque plot holes, which will probably fail because of how fail the endings were to begin with.

Modifié par Leafs43, 02 avril 2012 - 09:51 .

[Kashola]

If IT was planned and the DLC is free, super happy.

If IT wasn't planned but they rolled with it, but they charged a fee for the DLC - dissapointed but i'd accept it.

If IT isn't true and they keep the endings as they are and just "clarify" for us stupid people, then i'll be livid and probably burn all my ME content (novels,comics and games) in a ritualistic fashion... then cry. :/

[SaabFAN86]

I'd say, if indoc is true, the guys who came up with it here on the forum get royalties from the DLC-Sells XD

[Nauks]

The game as it is, all but screams indoctrination at us, so it would be expected.
And I believe they will pull of a satisfactory ending unless they let som interns create the new ending or w/e.

Leaving us hanging for this long though, not cool, not cool. at. all.

Modifié par Nauks, 02 avril 2012 - 09:58 .

[dreman9999]

Leafs43 wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

They can do better than IT, but if that's what they do then whatever... better than leaving as it is...

Can they do better than IT?  Probably

Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

What would be better then IT?

[Humakt83]

At this point any "conventional" ending replacing the current one and IT would be rather boring but acceptable if done well I guess. I might feel disappointed though.

[Leafs43]

dreman9999 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

They can do better than IT, but if that's what they do then whatever... better than leaving as it is...

Can they do better than IT?  Probably

Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

What would be better then IT?

A rewrite of the whole ending means anything can happen.

But if they don't rewrite the ending, IT is the only salvageable plot twist they can manage.  The endings are fubar'ed even with a 1 minute longer cutscene.

[Tov01]

Leafs43 wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

Would be better to redo the whole ending.

Exactly.

But they have already have explicitly said they are not rewriting the ending.  That's one of the only real specific things they have said.

So other than the IT (because IT requires the endings to stay the same), the only thing they can try and do is fill the grand canyon-esque plot holes, which will probably fail because of how fail the endings were to begin with.

But if they go with IT, they'd still have to show what happens after Shepard wakes up, which requires writing a new ending from scratch. I'm not sure how that qualifies as not "rewriting the ending"

So yeah, it seems all we're left with is filling in plot holes.

[dreman9999]

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

IT does not need a rewrite. It just need shepard to wake up from  dream. The theory is the last moments after Shepard is cut down by harbinger is a dream. 
Bw also said they are just adding more closer to he end of ME3, not changing the ending..

[Leafs43]

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

Would be better to redo the whole ending.

Exactly.

But they have already have explicitly said they are not rewriting the ending.  That's one of the only real specific things they have said.

So other than the IT (because IT requires the endings to stay the same), the only thing they can try and do is fill the grand canyon-esque plot holes, which will probably fail because of how fail the endings were to begin with.

But if they go with IT, they'd still have to show what happens after Shepard wakes up, which requires writing a new ending from scratch. I'm not sure how that qualifies as not "rewriting the ending"

So yeah, it seems all we're left with is filling in plot holes.

We are saying the same thing, I think you just slightly missed my point.

I am saying if there is no rewrite, IT is their only real option.  IT requires no rewrite because they have to keep the endings as they are with maybe just a slight adjustment.  IT is an addon, not a rewrite.

Modifié par Leafs43, 02 avril 2012 - 10:06 .

[dreman9999]

Bhatair wrote...

Sorry, I just think the time has come and gone for them to come out and say IT was the plan all along. It's been a month, there is a huge fan outcry over the ending in the game and a 1000+ page thread speculating on indoctrination. Besides there is no logical reason to remove the ending after the twist unless they wanted to sell it to us later, which I would find despicable.

Would IT have been awesome? Yes, I like it much better than what we actually got. It's up there with the whole "Would you kindly?" twist from Bioshock in terms of cleverness. I'm too cynical to actually believe Bioware intended it though and if they did, well screw them I'm not paying extra for what should have been part of the game from the get go.

Extra missions? Extra weapons? Sure, that's acceptable as DLC. The ending to a trilogy? No, that is just blatant exploitation.

If it is true, they would not say anything...The idea was to trick the player...To have them experiance indoctrination. If they say anything about the ending, people would not fall for the trick. It's a psycological test.

[luzburg]

id be happy

[Tov01]

dreman9999 wrote...

Tov01 wrote...

Leafs43 wrote...
Can they do better than IT without rewritting the whole ending?  Probably not.

But to proberly implement IT, wouldn't they have to write new endings anyway (i.e. what happens after Shepard "wakes up") I say, if they're already writing new endings, they might as well scrap abd replace the Citadel scenes all togeather. You don't need IT to do that.

IT does not need a rewrite. It just need shepard to wake up from  dream. The theory is the last moments after Shepard is cut down by harbinger is a dream. 
Bw also said they are just adding more closer to he end of ME3, not changing the ending..

If the DLC doesn't show what happens after jest ending with Shepard waking up, then it leaves us with even more questions. Did anyone make it to the Citadel to open the arms? Did the crucible work? What did the crucible even do? It leaves the entire series on a cliff hanger, and is even worse than what we have now.

Modifié par Tov01, 02 avril 2012 - 10:06 .