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What Jessica Chobot think of ME3 fans.


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Valo_Soren wrote...

You have no proof he is a bigot, he himself doesn't remember making the statement. You are judging person by an off hand comment and making assumptions about him when you don't even know him.

And no I don't agree with hate speech, I believe in equality myself. Should he have made the statement? Of course not, but it has nothing to do with this topic. And he doesn't remember making it so you should likely leave it at that and stay on topic.


I really don't think anyone should take advice from you. After reading your posts today I, for the first time, wish there was an ignore button on this forum.

On this forum, that is saying a lot.

I will never ignore bigotry. I will never take it lightly.

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Valo_Soren wrote...

Travie wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

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You are the person who once wrote that you were glad if Steve got killed, because he was gay.
Hate speech above all else is something I won't stand for. I do not take ANYTHING you say seriously.


You need to lighten up. Just because he does not like ****** sexuals does not mean his opinion on THIS topic isn't correct. While I don't agree with 'hate speech' either something tells me this guy was likely joking about that earlier comment. Either way, steve cortez is not the topic of discussion here, Jessica Chobot is and he is sharing his opinion on her opinion regardless of how you feel about an earlier comment he made that has nothing to do with this topic. Lighten up.


After reading your posts today (oh god I wish I hadn't), you telling people to lighten up is beyond laughable. 

Oh, and telling people to lighten up on bigots... really? 


You have no proof he is a bigot, he himself doesn't remember making the statement. You are judging person by an off hand comment and making assumptions about him when you don't even know him.

And no I don't agree with hate speech, I believe in equality myself. Should he have made the statement? Of course not, but it has nothing to do with this topic. And he doesn't remember making it so you should likely leave it at that and stay on topic.

Actually Justin2K is bigoted. He is obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of his own opinions and is prejudiced against those who hold different opinions, which is the very definition of being bigoted. Being bigoted is not just towards homosexuality or ethnicity, but to literally anything that an opinion could be made about..

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Valo_Soren wrote...

No we keep using it because it is how the lot of you are acting, believe it or not. Nothing you say, do, or claim will make me think otherwise, all of you, who are demanding a different ending are acting like a bunch of over sensitive, self-entitled, whiny children.


Translation: this person refuses to be reasoned with. Nothing you can say can change them from their way of thinking. We call this close mindedness.

You can hide behind your flowery words and explanations and you can point at your charity drive which was really more of you piggy backing a charity to draw attention to yourselves


Right and Bioware giving the cupcakes to kids had the kids as the primary motive? No. Complain about both sides or neither. Don't be hypocritical.

and you can point to the cup cake thing which is really just you trying to bribe bioware, the lengths that you all have gone disgust me and makes me scared that the lot of you are tommorows leaders. 


The cupcakes were to bribe Bioware. That is laughable. They were making an analogy to protest. Even Bioware got that, why haven't you? :unsure:

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Valo_Soren wrote...

You have no proof he is a bigot, he himself doesn't remember making the statement. You are judging person by an off hand comment and making assumptions about him when you don't even know him.

And no I don't agree with hate speech, I believe in equality myself. Should he have made the statement? Of course not, but it has nothing to do with this topic. And he doesn't remember making it so you should likely leave it at that and stay on topic.


I remember said comment... want me to look for it? maybe screencap it?

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Wow. This thread's still going.

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If you really think the cupcakes were a "bribe," then I feel for you.

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Valo_Soren wrote...

You have no proof he is a bigot, he himself doesn't remember making the statement. You are judging person by an off hand comment and making assumptions about him when you don't even know him.

And no I don't agree with hate speech, I believe in equality myself. Should he have made the statement? Of course not, but it has nothing to do with this topic. And he doesn't remember making it so you should likely leave it at that and stay on topic.


Lol, i know you love to White Knight anyone who might agree with what you do, but this is really one you dont want to touch. How that guy was not banned is beyond me after the digusting display on the forums many times about his view points on homosexuality.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Wow. This thread's still going.

Iknorite. I didn't even think it would be more than a couple of pages, because...honestly who really cares what Chobot says about anything?

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Valo_Soren wrote...

Boudicia wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

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Jessica chobot : An entitled group of gamers are having a ridiculous whine fest at Bioware.

Go look around the forums. Is she really wrong?


Yes. She's wrong. And all you're doing is piggybacking her insult.


Tell me how is she wrong? Almost every thread is someone whining about how Bioware isn't cool anymore or about how starchild doesn't make sense or about colours.

And the majority of people believe they should get a new ending and they should get it free.

Whining and entitled seems quite spot on to me.


You are the person who once wrote that you were glad if Steve got killed, because he was gay.
Hate speech above all else is something I won't stand for. I do not take ANYTHING you say seriously.



I KNEW I recognized his forum name.  Thanks for reminding me. 
I'm with you.  Anyone who makes a hate statement like that doesn't deserve
my serious attention  And guys, remember most of those calling us
entitled, whiny, petulant etc are hoping we will respond in a manner they think
will validate their statement.  Remember, don't feed the trolls.  



Concerning Miss Chobot; surprised she is that unprofessional on her
professional blog (not her twitter).  One would think she would at least
finish the game and do a little research before making such a statement. 
It makes me wonder.  Someone earlier mentioned IGN generates revenue by
the number of hits.   I suspect she was purposefully inflammatory in
order to incite this exact type of reaction, thus giving IGN plenty of site
visits. 

 I also grow tired of the term “vocal minority”.  I wonder if people have forgotten how
majority opinions are determined by polls and surveys.  Granted, any survey or poll on this site will
likely be weighted in favor of those unhappy of the ending.  But when it is so heavily weighted (98%)
against the ending, then it seems to imply that this is not a vocal
minority.  Add in the evidence that polls
on many, many other sites not affiliated with Bioware also have a huge margin
in favor of those who are critical of the ending, and one wonders how anyone
can still use the term vocal minority with a straight face.








This only serves to prove the whiny self entitlement statement she has made. Just because someone doesn't like something, like homosexuals or whatever, it could be anything it suddenly makes their opinion not matter on this topic? Some people might have religious beliefs that cause them to feel a certain way about certain people and I don't know about you but I'm all for religious freedom for everyone so it's unfair to judge a person on a statement made in the past that was likely not even serious in the first place being that this is a forum and it is full of trollish statements. Especially since Steve Cortez is a character videogame sprite and not a real person. Plus this justin fellow doesn't remember making said statement so perhaps you should consider that it may have been a joke or he didn't make it in the first place. Now you truly are acting like children. 'oh god how dare someone say somethign that doesn't agree with me, they no longer have any credibility just because they made a stupid comment, yes because we don't understand that people make mistakes or say things they don't remember saying because we're self entitled whiny cry babies that have to have everything our way'.

Tell me that you don't look at yourselves and see the entitled word stamped on your foreheads.

I know this has nothing to do with Chobot's comments but...

Valo. Please re-read that portion of your post in bold. Did you really just validate someone making a hateful remark against homosexuals as "oh well, he doesn't remember so it's ok that he did"? (even in jest, you have to admit its not cool)

If I made a hateful remark against jewish people, and then claimed I don't remember making it, would that be ok? No, because even if I didn't recall making that particular remark, I'm still responsible for it and I should still be held accountable for it.

I don't know you. But I wonder if you've ever had to deal with racism or bigotry in any shape or form. Because defending something like that, even if it's an offhand comment, is still not cool.

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As for Chobot. She's in our game. Not much we can do about that at this point. Her remarks are crass and made worse by the fact that she hasn't completed the game yet. But lets not get too carried away here folks.

At the end of the day, does the opinion of someone who makes factually inacurate "hint" videos and licks game devices for views/notoriety/free stuff really matter?

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She has a point. It became ridculous when fans started going to the FTC. That's way too far for the ending of a video game. Also the *Demand* for it to be free is touching the edges of the envelope, especially since the game was nowhere near free. plus she's got a right to an opinion like everyone else. I just hate that both sides of the issue are so extreme. If you liked the endings you're "probably a dumb CoD 14 year old" and if you ahte them and want soething better you're "Entitled and whiny and don't deserve anything so STFU"

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Any sympathy that i had for her disappeared after thst, thats for sure.

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Opsrbest wrote...

The initial conglomeration in the first few day's of ME3 release and people seeing the ending weren't that they wanted a new ending. They wanted it clearified because it didn't make any sense. It wasn't until the end of the first week of ME3's release that you started seeing the we want a new ending garbage being posted. When the majority of people started to pour onto the forums. The inital post I made that you jumped on like a rabid dog was because of your own issues comprehending it.

But hey if you take offence and chalk yourself into the stupid portion of RTM. Hey, I can't help that.



Drop the insults, pal. Retake does have a few differing opinions, yes. But to call one of them garbage, assign it to the "stupid portion", and insult that opinion, is just showing a superiority complex.

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For Valo...

The thread in question... read it...

http://social.biowar.../index/10140635

Modifié par Baronesa, 02 avril 2012 - 09:18 .


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ADLegend21 wrote...

She has a point. It became ridculous when fans started going to the FTC. That's way too far for the ending of a video game. Also the *Demand* for it to be free is touching the edges of the envelope, especially since the game was nowhere near free. plus she's got a right to an opinion like everyone else. I just hate that both sides of the issue are so extreme. If you liked the endings you're "probably a dumb CoD 14 year old" and if you ahte them and want soething better you're "Entitled and whiny and don't deserve anything so STFU"


It was Fan, just one person, and a lot of people on both sides thought it was a little over the line. Also not everyone thinks that the content should be free (assuming you are speaking of DLC)

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ADLegend21 wrote...

She has a point. It became ridculous when fans started going to the FTC. That's way too far for the ending of a video game. Also the *Demand* for it to be free is touching the edges of the envelope, especially since the game was nowhere near free. plus she's got a right to an opinion like everyone else. I just hate that both sides of the issue are so extreme. If you liked the endings you're "probably a dumb CoD 14 year old" and if you ahte them and want soething better you're "Entitled and whiny and don't deserve anything so STFU"


She didn't finish the game and therefore she doesn't have the information needed to have a reliable opinion. The opinion as of now is null and void.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

She has a point. It became ridculous when fans started going to the FTC. That's way too far for the ending of a video game. Also the *Demand* for it to be free is touching the edges of the envelope, especially since the game was nowhere near free. plus she's got a right to an opinion like everyone else. I just hate that both sides of the issue are so extreme. If you liked the endings you're "probably a dumb CoD 14 year old" and if you ahte them and want soething better you're "Entitled and whiny and don't deserve anything so STFU"

That's pretty much how everything on the internet goes, unfortunately.

And considering that I spent $80 on ME3 already, some content that doesn't bleed my funds dry would be nice.

Especially if that content finally made the series playable again.

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Logan Cloud wrote...

Wow. This thread's still going.

Iknorite. I didn't even think it would be more than a couple of pages, because...honestly who really cares what Chobot says about anything?

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I love how everything that everyone says is a deep personal insult to everyone else.

That's it BSN, let the butthurt flow...

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Why can't I get this many people to look at my blog posts?


Because you're not a hot chick willing to grind up against the editor of IGN and take sex'd up photos for attention.

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I find it unlikely she was hired for her knowledge when they don't seem to care how professional she is or how the lack nformation she displays to the public on things for that matter.

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HAHAHAH the page was deleted -

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ADLegend21 wrote...

She has a point. It became ridculous when fans started going to the FTC. 


Don't say fans as though you can broad brush an entire fandom over the acts of one person to support some chick who hasn't even watched the ending. Besides they specifically stated that they were just filing a complaint. They said they were not pursuing any legal action.

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Arsenic Touch wrote...

HAHAHAH the page was deleted -


Lol my money is someone from PR just went "WTF ARE YOU THINKING?!"

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Who cares what Chobot thinks?

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*Sigh* anything i may have said that is "bigoted" would have been meant as a joke. I have friends of all colors and orientations.

In regards to this, seriously can people just not grow up? Bioware said a new ending is coming, so just let it rest. Everyone is being seriously immature, this lady has a right to her opinion. I'd understand it if you are all 15 but i have this feeling I'm talking to like 30 year olds.

Also please learn the definition of trolling. Disagreeing with someones point of view does not make me a troll or a flamebaiter or whatever. I simply refuse to get wound up about trivial matters like the ending of a video game.

Just move on already.

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MikoDoll wrote...

Captain Arty wrote...

Why can't I get this many people to look at my blog posts?


Because you're not a hot chick willing to grind up against the editor of IGN and take sex'd up photos for attention.

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I find it unlikely she was hired for her knowledge when they don't seem to care how professional she is or how the lack nformation she displays to the public on things for that matter.


just saying if chobot wanted to do that to me i wouldnt complain either

like i said if chobot was right in front of any of you guys you wouldnt say any of the stuff your saying now

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ADLegend21 wrote...

plus she's got a right to an opinion like everyone else.

That's the thing--she's a journalist (LOL IGN). When you're a professional reporter (LOL IGN), you keep your personal opinions close to the breast because your line of work demands neutrality. This is professionalism. What is worse is that she isn't expressing an opinion on the ending. And how could she? She's never seen it. As it is now, she's just baselessly bashing fans using the Internet's new favourite buzzword, and doing nothing to legitimise her argument.

This doesn't in any way justify the amount of vitriol here (and likely elsewhere), but I do imagine people are tired of the condescension. Especially from someone whose raisin d'être is apparently...well...licking things.

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