Modifié par AliceSoap, 03 décembre 2009 - 04:33 .
what were the hardest fights in the game for you?
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AliceSoap
, déc. 03 2009 04:31
#1
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 04:31
I found ser cauthrien's fight during the escape with anora to be the hardest. Other than that i only wiped once with flemeth and another time with the high dragon. The second time i fought the high dragon it got stuck in a pillar and so couldn't move at all, it was hilarious. And the archdemon was a real letdown, there are several unnamed foes far stronger than it in the game, it didn't hit harder than its generals or an ogre alpha.
#2
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 04:42
The Archdemon was never supposed to be a really hard fight. The only thing that makes it difficult is the clusterf**k of enemies. As for what I found to be the most difficult fights.
Ser Cauthrien's fight is probably the hardest at face value. There's some ways to make it easier, like Sleeping everything and luring Cauthrien away from the group (By the time they wake up, the enemies have lost hostility).
The Triple Blood mage room (Abandoned building in Denerim) is hard as well. Without Manaclash, they can powernuke everyone down. as they come through the door(s). Manaclash helps a lot, but a resist can happen.
I forgot the name, but Gralgrataoxalog or whatever in the Quaint Hovel in Denerim is hard too, maybe it's just me, but no matter where I stood (Having the boss at the door and mage/archer behind a freakin wall) Double strike still hit EVERYONE in the room.
Flemeth I beat on Nightmare first try, without any issues. I was disappointed. No, not using the Taunt/Forcefield trick. I did use Force Field to interrupt Grab though.
The High Dragon was probably the "hardest" fight. In a standard, non cheap sense. They could have made the fight a lot harder. Again, I've only ever played Dragon Age on Nightmare, but even then, the Dragon will perform a flurry of attacks and then sit for a few seconds doing nothing. If that didn't happen, it'd be a lot harder.
Another Hard, and usually avoided fight is the Guardian of the Urn. If you just jam through the fire with your armor on, he gets butt hurt and attacks you with 3 Elite Ash Wraiths. It's a pretty challenging fight because of position. You can take your chances and run through the fire, or fight in the hallway and let the Wraiths spam cone fire on you.
Ser Cauthrien's fight is probably the hardest at face value. There's some ways to make it easier, like Sleeping everything and luring Cauthrien away from the group (By the time they wake up, the enemies have lost hostility).
The Triple Blood mage room (Abandoned building in Denerim) is hard as well. Without Manaclash, they can powernuke everyone down. as they come through the door(s). Manaclash helps a lot, but a resist can happen.
I forgot the name, but Gralgrataoxalog or whatever in the Quaint Hovel in Denerim is hard too, maybe it's just me, but no matter where I stood (Having the boss at the door and mage/archer behind a freakin wall) Double strike still hit EVERYONE in the room.
Flemeth I beat on Nightmare first try, without any issues. I was disappointed. No, not using the Taunt/Forcefield trick. I did use Force Field to interrupt Grab though.
The High Dragon was probably the "hardest" fight. In a standard, non cheap sense. They could have made the fight a lot harder. Again, I've only ever played Dragon Age on Nightmare, but even then, the Dragon will perform a flurry of attacks and then sit for a few seconds doing nothing. If that didn't happen, it'd be a lot harder.
Another Hard, and usually avoided fight is the Guardian of the Urn. If you just jam through the fire with your armor on, he gets butt hurt and attacks you with 3 Elite Ash Wraiths. It's a pretty challenging fight because of position. You can take your chances and run through the fire, or fight in the hallway and let the Wraiths spam cone fire on you.
#3
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 04:58
The first fight I had serious trouble with was Piotin in the Proving Grounds. It was my first playthrough and I was doing the Orzammar line first. I died four times to him on Easy before I gave up and went to Redcliffe. This was before the patch, btw. Then I got better skills (thank you, Cone of Cold) and pwned him.
Brood Mother killed half my party before I took her down. I hate tentacles.
Ser Cauthrien is probably on everyone's list.
But you know what was the toughest fight for me, hands down? ... A gang of bandits in a Denerim back alley. >_<
Brood Mother killed half my party before I took her down. I hate tentacles.
Ser Cauthrien is probably on everyone's list.
But you know what was the toughest fight for me, hands down? ... A gang of bandits in a Denerim back alley. >_<
#4
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:12
My hardest fight was the rats in the cellar of Castle Cousland.
That fight took all of my tactical skills to win victory!
Thank the Maker I managed it.
That fight took all of my tactical skills to win victory!
Thank the Maker I managed it.
#5
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:19
Ser Cauthrien I've never beat on normal, but to be fair to myself I didn't death march it, I just tried a couple of times then surrendered.
I had problems with a few of the traveling ambush setups, and one that I had problems with that nobody has mentioned is the possessed templar + desire demon combo in the circle tower.
I had problems with a few of the traveling ambush setups, and one that I had problems with that nobody has mentioned is the possessed templar + desire demon combo in the circle tower.
#6
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:23
I just gave up with Ser Cauthrien. Both high dragons obviously. Funny thing is that the dragon in my game got stuck too on some part of the map so that fight wasn't really fair.
Jarvia was hard because of the traps. Branka was hard if you were ganged up on early in the fight.
The legion of soldiers from the random encounter in Denerim was annoying because I had two rouges with me and no mage for crowd control or healing. There was also no way changing party members so that fight took way too many trys. I had a problem with a lot of random encounters if I didn't bring an optimal party.
Jarvia was hard because of the traps. Branka was hard if you were ganged up on early in the fight.
The legion of soldiers from the random encounter in Denerim was annoying because I had two rouges with me and no mage for crowd control or healing. There was also no way changing party members so that fight took way too many trys. I had a problem with a lot of random encounters if I didn't bring an optimal party.
Modifié par kcp12, 03 décembre 2009 - 05:25 .
#7
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:24
Ser Cauthrien is teh biyatch. F*ck it, I'll just go to jail.
#8
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:27
brucemo wrote...
Ser Cauthrien I've never beat on normal, but to be fair to myself I didn't death march it, I just tried a couple of times then surrendered.
I had problems with a few of the traveling ambush setups, and one that I had problems with that nobody has mentioned is the possessed templar + desire demon combo in the circle tower.
That perfect combo was the first whooping I got in that game, I didn't want to switch from normal and it took me like 9 tries to beat them, I haven't fought anything that bad since.
#9
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:32
Cauthrien i beat by luring her into the narrow corridor and spamming health poultices while slowly chipping away at her life with my ranged attackers. she does way too much damage compared to the dragons, doesn't make sense.
#10
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:32
the WOLVES.
All it takes is bad luck: if every wolf uses overwhelm at the same time, its game over. I've had that happen. Even if the plate-wearers survive the first onslaught, there's too many.
All it takes is bad luck: if every wolf uses overwhelm at the same time, its game over. I've had that happen. Even if the plate-wearers survive the first onslaught, there's too many.
#11
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:40
Yeah that "random" encounter in Denerim is insanely unbalanced. 8-9 scattershot archers and the same amount of melee types? Gimme a freaking break.
Take a step...stunned....2 steps....stunned....another step...stunned....end of fight....
runscript killallhostiles......moved on......
Take a step...stunned....2 steps....stunned....another step...stunned....end of fight....
runscript killallhostiles......moved on......
Modifié par Archangel064, 03 décembre 2009 - 05:44 .
#12
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:41
Lol I finally decided to fight Ser Cauthrien on my 3rd time of playing n needless to say she is a tough wench but if you can get her n the other guards that aren't using arrows away from the front room you can defeat her without dying n then after the swordsman are dead if you have a bow n arrow you can pick the last of the gaurds off. I'm not sure if you can defeat Ser Cauthrien without luring her away from the others. I tried to attempt it but I ended up running to another room just barely alive to heal myself n decided to lure them to me after that lol.
On that note I was soooo pissed off at the Princess for backstabbing me that when I got bk to Arl Eamon's place I refused to talk to her n she did it again at the landsmeet so um by the time the Landsmeet was over I wanted to see her head chopped off along with her dads but dang Alister couldn't kill her lol. I know that was cruel to say but the damn wench betrayed me not once but twice lol.
On that note I was soooo pissed off at the Princess for backstabbing me that when I got bk to Arl Eamon's place I refused to talk to her n she did it again at the landsmeet so um by the time the Landsmeet was over I wanted to see her head chopped off along with her dads but dang Alister couldn't kill her lol. I know that was cruel to say but the damn wench betrayed me not once but twice lol.
#13
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 05:44
For the Ser Cauthrien fight, I immediately shifted my party back to the nearby room once the cut-scene is over. By doing this, you will probably only need to deal with Ser Cauthrien and maybe one of her guards. Once she is isolated, just use cone of cold/death hex with heal spell/potion on the tank. Another tactic would be to cast force field on the tank so that Ser Cauthrien can't do any damage to the tank while the rest of the party just fire away magic/arrows. These tactics worked for me.
#14
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 06:03
Gaxkang and it's not even close for me. The high dragon, Flemeth, end boss, EVERYTHING was cake compared to Gaxkang. He seems to resist everything, I fought him with a party made up of myself as a sword and board warrior, Morrigan, Leliana, and Sten, and with Morrigan without a single healing spell in her arsenal.
You have to fight an aoe spamming, tank that hits like the high dragon in an itsy bitsy little house where you have absolutely no where to hide to avoid his attacks. Only reason I beat him was an obscene amount of potions and grenades.
As for Ser Cauthrian I fought her using Alistair as the tank, Leliana, Wynne (blood mage), and myself as a 2 handed sword using warrior. Ran into the room and used blood wound which hits everyone in the room except for one archer and Cauthrian. Used blood control on the lone unaffected archer removing them all from combat. Cauthrian immediately went for Alistair who promptly ignored her and along with the rest of the party who all had at least 1 point in poison so they could use grenades.
I walked the party over to each cluster of archers and had them each throw a grenade each instagibbing them one cluster at a time. By the time blood wound wore off they were all dead save for one last cluster which was quickly killed. After that just healed up Alistair like mad and beat on Cauthrien till she went down. Certainly not an easy fight, and it took me a while to think to use my grenades, but she wasn't any where near as nasty as Gaxkang due to her lack of aoe attacks and the large room you fight her in which gives you room to fight.
You have to fight an aoe spamming, tank that hits like the high dragon in an itsy bitsy little house where you have absolutely no where to hide to avoid his attacks. Only reason I beat him was an obscene amount of potions and grenades.
As for Ser Cauthrian I fought her using Alistair as the tank, Leliana, Wynne (blood mage), and myself as a 2 handed sword using warrior. Ran into the room and used blood wound which hits everyone in the room except for one archer and Cauthrian. Used blood control on the lone unaffected archer removing them all from combat. Cauthrian immediately went for Alistair who promptly ignored her and along with the rest of the party who all had at least 1 point in poison so they could use grenades.
I walked the party over to each cluster of archers and had them each throw a grenade each instagibbing them one cluster at a time. By the time blood wound wore off they were all dead save for one last cluster which was quickly killed. After that just healed up Alistair like mad and beat on Cauthrien till she went down. Certainly not an easy fight, and it took me a while to think to use my grenades, but she wasn't any where near as nasty as Gaxkang due to her lack of aoe attacks and the large room you fight her in which gives you room to fight.
Modifié par sinosleep, 03 décembre 2009 - 06:08 .
#15
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 06:12
Flemeth and the damned Corrupted Spider in The Deep Roads! Arrgh, that spider was badass!
#16
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 07:54
Jarvia is my nemesis.
First playthrough, on hard with a 2H warrior. Took me FOUR HOURS of trying to beat her. I got lucky with a Cone of Cold and hit her stealthed. Second playthrough (on Nightmare) on my mage it still took a couple of tries and a little luck.
Other tough fights: Brood Mother, Branka, Gaxkang. Ser Cautherine and her army of crossbowmen (outside Landsmeet, she's not nearly as tough.) The entrance to Ft. Dakon is a little rough without Golems.
I don't find the Dragon fights that tough because they're just impressive statwise; the fight is pretty simple when you get right down to it. (Fire resist-Check! Face away from group-Check!)
First playthrough, on hard with a 2H warrior. Took me FOUR HOURS of trying to beat her. I got lucky with a Cone of Cold and hit her stealthed. Second playthrough (on Nightmare) on my mage it still took a couple of tries and a little luck.
Other tough fights: Brood Mother, Branka, Gaxkang. Ser Cautherine and her army of crossbowmen (outside Landsmeet, she's not nearly as tough.) The entrance to Ft. Dakon is a little rough without Golems.
I don't find the Dragon fights that tough because they're just impressive statwise; the fight is pretty simple when you get right down to it. (Fire resist-Check! Face away from group-Check!)
Modifié par ComTrav, 03 décembre 2009 - 07:54 .
#17
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 08:07
q0rra wrote...
Flemeth and the damned Corrupted Spider in The Deep Roads! Arrgh, that spider was badass!
haha That's just what I was going to put - same two fights!
#18
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 08:19
The 3 blood mages in the abandoned building in Denerim is probably the hardest encounter I've come up against so far. Only won it by setting up the party back in the approaching corridors, opening the doors with one character, running away, force-fielding the bait and then combination of Blizzard/Shales AOE rock-throw thing. Took many tries however, as often a triple-fireball combination would kill the bait straight away!
#19
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 08:21
1 random encounter in forest, Ser Cauthrien was not that hard course i expectet him to be harder than most, it was the pure surprice effect, i didint expect that mere bandits could pose a thread to my party untill i saw wynne to drop in 3 second while my party got cyckled by scattershots, then i used earthquake on archer that were standin on a cliff but for some reason they never falled on their asses and alistair got his armor sundered by melee and they just ate him with 50+ hits.
I finally beat them with using rogue to charge archers and use 2 grenades so they would stop shooting since earthquake was so complitely useless.
I finally beat them with using rogue to charge archers and use 2 grenades so they would stop shooting since earthquake was so complitely useless.
#20
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 08:33
Ser Cauthrien, but I don't think the developers want you to win this fight. I've stuck it out and won it only once and then just to see how good her sword was. I actually like the prison interlude. Other than that, the fight that really surprised me the most was GaxKang. Here I was just talking to this self-important guy and suddenly he morphed. Thankfully I was already near to level 20 by the time I confronted him!!
#21
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 08:57
Ser Cauthrien's first fight. In all of my battles I hadn't been bested until her. Round two she died, losing one's head will usually do that.
#22
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 10:11
Isn't Gaxkang just another revenant? I certainly treated and crushed him like one. You just have to keep the squishy characters away from him just like all other revenants.
#23
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 10:21
Branka, and the three blood mages in the hallway. I had to come back to those blood mages several different times, and eventually I finally got them. For Branka part of it was that I'd used up too many health poultices getting to her, but that can't have been all of it.
My fight against Ser Cauthrien was a joke. I don't think we even damaged her. The high dragon was also quite tough.
I didn't have any trouble with Gaxkang at all, but then, I was almost 20th level by the time I did that.
My fight against Ser Cauthrien was a joke. I don't think we even damaged her. The high dragon was also quite tough.
I didn't have any trouble with Gaxkang at all, but then, I was almost 20th level by the time I did that.
#24
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 10:29
The second time I downed Flemmeth, something went seriously awry with Wynne's AI, or tactics set up, and she ran straight into the melee range of flemmeth and got roasted, it started this cluster f**k of misplaced aggro management which wiped everyone except my warrior.
This happened roughly 60% through the fight, for the remaining 40% my warrior actually managed to stand his own for the next HOUR slowly chipping away at flemmeth between getting knocked down and getting chewed up. When flemmeth had a sliver of health left, my warrior almost died during one ofthe 'chewing' sessions.
That ranks has the hardest fight in the game for me, simply because of the circumstances. The high dragon fight is the hardest by design. The archdemon was easier than certain darkspawn emissary encounters I've come across. ..
This happened roughly 60% through the fight, for the remaining 40% my warrior actually managed to stand his own for the next HOUR slowly chipping away at flemmeth between getting knocked down and getting chewed up. When flemmeth had a sliver of health left, my warrior almost died during one ofthe 'chewing' sessions.
That ranks has the hardest fight in the game for me, simply because of the circumstances. The high dragon fight is the hardest by design. The archdemon was easier than certain darkspawn emissary encounters I've come across. ..
#25
Posté 03 décembre 2009 - 10:29
I can remember Gaxkling or what was his name and battle in deserted building in Denerim. Took me some attempts.
But I bet the hardest fight was behind the scenes, in the bed with Morrigan.
But I bet the hardest fight was behind the scenes, in the bed with Morrigan.





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