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[XOGHunter246]

Ser Cauthrien on nightmare is kind off hard

[BanditGR]

Ser Cauthrien pre-Fort Drakon. Hardest fight by a thousand miles, especially on Nightmare. Nothing else comes even remotely close to how absurd it is, if you decide not to cheese it by going out of the room, since it was simply not meant  to be won (which doesn't imply its impossible, just extremely tedious and frustrating).

Gaxkang is a matter of going with the proper abilties, mana clash/curse of mortality almost guarantee a win, even with a non-optimal DPS group.

Branka is a  matter of...retardation really. If you don't let her activate any lyrium nodes, she goes down so fast, it's not even funny. On the other hand if you miss even one node (on hard+), the difficulty of the fight increases exponentially.

High Dragon/Flemeth. It's really all about keeping the tank alive (or force field cheese it) and the ranged outside the devastating attacks of the dragon.

Archdemon. A joke, at that specific point in the game. No special strategy required, eventually the NPC's are probably going to kill him for you.

Ambushes/Trapped rooms. Usually casting SotC from 100 miles away, as many times as possible, then going in to finish off any survivors, gather loot, works Straightforward fights are tough, as those rooms are specifically designed to overwhelm your party, but nothing that can't be handled, using proper CC.

Modifié par BanditGR, 03 décembre 2009 - 10:47 .

[Faerell Gustani]

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Modifié par Faerell Gustani, 03 décembre 2009 - 10:56 .

[Faerell Gustani]

Well, from what I remember...



Flemeth was difficult the first time due to pure shock value. I was too stunned at having to fight a dragon instead of a caster to properly manage my characters. But once I calmed down I adjusted my strategy and it worked...Ironically it's the same strategy I use with Revenants and with the High dragon...all of them defeated the same way. So it was only difficult the first time.



I hear that the Broodmother was difficult. I have no idea thought as I beat her on the first try. I did have to rez Oghren once though, but whatever. I didn't use any weird ranged attack tricks or AoE damage either.



Gaxkang was a joke compared to what he is a parody of (Kangaxx for those of you who haven't played BG2). I beat him on my 2nd attempt. He was really just about not getting murdered by AoE. Spread out and avoid having your entire party frozen on the opening action.



Hardest fight, I will have to echo was Ser Cauthrien at the Denerim estate when you rescue Anora. I wiped so many times. I ended up using LoS to get everyone to the doorway. Sleep/Nightmare distracted all of the standard monsters. Crushing prison on the mage. Lead Cauthrien and 2 of her melee support off to the library using Alistair and my Dual Wield rogue. Lelianna had suppressing fire to keep Cauthrien managable. When I finally finished her off, I returned to find the remaining guys at a fraction of their strength and the mage still alive somehow.



All in all, I think Cauthrien was the only truly difficult fight in the game.

[Riot Inducer]

As others have said Ser Cauthrien is tough as hell, particularly the first fight, but even when you get her alone it's like she's got the strength of three revenants (and comparable health).



Another annoying one was that spider queen in the deep roads, web the whole party and by the time we can move you're either webbed or overwhelmed by one of the minion spiders, annoying as ****** mostly because there's almost no resisting that webbing



Jarvia was also a major pain, way too much backup and traps. Although I found the traps can actually work against her and her mob if your tank is tough enough to withstand the traps.







some of the toughest fights have been the random encounters. The one bandit ambush is terrible, 3 archers, 3 melee but they make every darkspawn squad you've faced up until then look like pansies . There's also the darkspawn archer horde + high level shrieks vs. some elves, there's seriously about two dozen archers in that encounter.

[XOGHunter246]

you can always avoid her but where is the fun in that hehe

[XOGHunter246]

the room in the final battle with likw 12 archers can be bad if you rush in

[knarayan]

I had difficulty with the archdemon. Everyone has been saying that the archdemon's a pushover - but I just could not get beyond the 50% point for about 6 hours.

I tried various support troop combos - I had every one - elves, mages, redcliffers and dwarves, including the legion of the dead.

I'd get to 50%, and then the frikkin' shrieks would show up and all my troops would either be overrun - or remain completely out of sight w/o taking any damage.

Also, the tail slap and sweep made the attempted backstabs pretty risky as well.

And the bloody ballista would jam and my rogue - kept getting "Insufficient skill" after the second repair.

Finally did it with something like 20 health poultices and a lot of luck.

Second playthrough, now. Lets see if its easier with different skill trees.

[Bagenholt]

The Desire Demon? in Conners Fade sequence. Decided to let Jowen go in and oh my I was wrong on that one. Took me three tries and seriously before my third I was thinking "I'm gunna have to start this char over again because of this gimpy Blood mage" XD Mages are only as strong as their limit of Lyrium.

[Owen778]

I agree that the Denerim alley fights are hard, though I got through OK as Morrigan had just picked up Blizzard. I've also left Flemeth till later, and I haven't reached some of the battles listed here yet.



However, I found one impossible fight that no-one's mentioned yet. At about level 8, I had a random encounter while travelling on the road, against a greater shade and three lesser shades. After an hour of trying, I still hadn't quite managed to kill even one of them before my whole party got wiped. I reloaded the previous save from camp, and the next random encounter was different. Being a very hard non-optional non-story battle, I'm wondering whether it's a bug.

[ExistsAlready]

Escaping Fort Drakon, running back to the Arl's House and I get accosted along the way by a group of soldiers because Lelianna got caught stealing off someone.



A group being 8 footsoldiers and 9 archers. The only time I've ever felt glad to be playing a sword-and-board warrior.

[RPGmom28]

For me the hardest are always Ser Cauthrien and Branka. The best outcome I have had with Ser Cauthrien was using area of effect spells to take those archers out of the picture, having Wynne cast regen on the warriors, and having the warriors pound relentlessly on first the mages, and then Ser Cauthrien. Last time I faced Branka, I had Shale, Dog, and Oghren along with my character who was using the mass heal on the party over and over. He died toward the end, but Branka got taken down anyway with the use of healing poultices.

[Chezdon]

A fair few.



Had trouble fighting the Elf leader down in the Werewolf Lair.



Then the Revenant at the gate of Redcliffe castle with the archers up the top (I didn't realise you could open the gate for ages).



A fight in Denerim in the abandoned building (the end with the mages).



Loghain was actually a hard fight for me as well.



Funnily enough, none of the dragons caused me any problems - even Flemeth.



There were a fair few fights, and some of them I had to bring down to Easy from Normal after about 10 times trying. I liked the challenge though.

[MiyuEmi]

Oh, thought of another one, but largely because he's just surrounded by so many other Darkspawn, but the Glenlock Master Forger was tough. Killed me first time I ran into him.

[fanman72]

I thought I was the only one who found Ser Cauthrien insanely difficult until I read this thread. My party was me (Fighter), Allistar, Zevran, and Morrigan. We always ran to nearby room right after the cutscene with that **** Anora betraying you. That way we only lured Cauthrien and maybe one of her guards who was easy to kill. Even with that, I think it took me 4 tries before I managed to beat her. I think it's near impossible to take her on with all of the archers and mages surrounding her.





Oh well, Anora got what she deserved. Allistar killed her father, took the throne, and then imprisoned her.





Also had a difficult time with the very first ogre boss at Ostagar (mainly because of lack of health potions, very few abilities). Other notable mentions are the random revenant mage's treasures encounters in the Brecillian forest, the first time defending Redcliffe, some of the back alleys in Denerim. Come to think of it with the exception of Cauthrion, all of my most difficult spots were in early stages of the game when mages aren't overpowered and don't have decent crowd control yet

[digby0802]

In brecilian ruins there is a demon boss that constantly ports around the room and i had a all meelee party. (

[v.lokai]

After so many playthroughs and understanding builds and tactics none are particularly hard. But for my first play these were memorable:



First ogre

Flemeth

High Dragon

Rooms full of casters in the Fade

Gaxkang

Revenant

Blood mage dungeon

Closing the Veil in Wardens keep for the first time at low level.

The lightning room in elven ruins boss

Jarvia room



Ironically the Archdemon was not hard even on my first play since by then I had sufficient gear, tactics, and understanding of the game to make it almost trivial. Although Morrigan running away with my Staff of the Magister Lord and other very nice mage gear I could have used on Wynne would have made it even easier.

[nuculerman]

 Umm... Ser Cautheon.  It's not even a competition.  Even if you cheese it it's one of the harder fights in the game.  If you don't it's just about impossible on every difficulty.  The only way to do it is with a party tailored for that fight.  You basically need to blood wound one set of archers, freeze the other set, and kill them all while you're tank uses 8 healing pots to stand against Cautheon for long enough to accomplish that.  If you don't get the archers out of play within the first five seconds of the fight, it is legitimately impossible to beat, since they one shot kill everyone in your party by using the AoE stun four times over.

You basically HAVE to turn wynne or morrigan into a blood mage.  If they both are the fight becomes substantially easier but it's still the hardest fight in the game by a factor of at least 3.  I can duo Flemeth on Nightmare and I can't even beat Ser Cautheon on Easy unless I have two mages, one of them is a blood mage, and a decent amount of luck.  

I mean, honestly, why can't you recruit that lady?  She could solo every other boss in the game for you.  It'd be awesome.  "Hey, can you go kill my mother?  She's going to possess my body and destroy my soul."  "Eh, let Ser Cautheon do it, I'm busy."  Honestly.  When they let Loghain become a Grey Warden, where's the dialogue option: "No thanks, I'll take Ser Cautheon instead you pansy."  

[themaxzero]

Actually some lesser used spells are very useful during that fight, namely Grease and Earthquake. Both are AoE and instant cast and both auto knock down on cast.

Cast one of those while the other Mage gets Blizzard up (which knocks them all down again), run out the door (dropping a Repulsion Glyph in the doorway). AoE the crap out of the room.

Modifié par themaxzero, 04 décembre 2009 - 06:08 .

[Heisenb3rg]

To be honest the hardest fight for me was not ser catherin but one of the revenants in the forest.



I think I was like level 7 or 8, and didnt have a wide variety of spells to use...



The tactic I eventually used to win was to taunt him with alistair, then run away all across the map while the rest of my party killed off all of his minions.



Then bring him back, and basically just whoever was agroed around in a circle while all my party members shot ranged weapons. (and mage used lightning). Then heal whoever was getting hit.



Was not easy at all at a low level.



Higher level it's not a hard fight at all.

[Chragen]

So far I haven't really found any of the fights hard. High Dragon required one reload, but that's because I'm have a weird thing about not letting any of my companions fall in battle ever.. Even if they fall after the boss is dead
This is on nightmare mode with me as a dagger/dagger rogue, Morrigan, Wynne and Alistair.

I also avoid all the cheap spells/items. No cone of cold, no storm of the century, no potions unless absolutely necessary (Used about 6 in total now) no sleep/horror combos. I try to just control the battle with taunt/tanking, healing and single target CC/damage. 

I avoid anything that makes the game trivial. About half way through the game now and it's going quite well, but it's funny how the fights against random unnamed NPCs is harder than fighting a High Dragon. 
Worst is probably in Denerim when you meet a bunch of archers at the same time.

But Ser Cauthrien is the hardest fight in the game no doubt, and rightfully so considering that it's part of the story that you lose/surrender at that point. 
It is possible to beat here at that point, but I don't see a reason why except to get a decent challenge and then reload. 
I mean.. Who would want to miss out on Morrigan pretending to be a Chantry priest??
 

Modifié par Chragen, 05 décembre 2009 - 08:45 .

[interesting03]

Fighting the werewolves with Zathrian was probably the most grueling for me. He kept Cone of colding my party, whilst we got torn to shreds by the wolves. Plus he can't tank at all, he dies in about 5 seconds. Trying to keep him alive was an immense challenge.

[Kerilus]

Ser Cauthrien can solo two High Dragons I think.

I lured her to the closest room nearby, force fielded her and use Morrigan's aoes+my walking boom to clear out the archers. Then suddenly, Alistair's icon became a skeleton...and I reloaded 30s later.