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[SirTerrible]

I couldn't care less if someone farmed credits because of a glitch. It doesn't negatively affect me whatsoever. If anything it just makes it more likely that the people I play with don't have garbage gear. That's just me though.

[Distilled Poison]

Ugh, I know it's against the rules. I never argued that. In fact, I stated the reason I'm not doing this because, with upcoming character DLC, it's not worth a ban/reset.

I'm simply arguing why partaking in it doesn't make you a bad person and why it doesn't affect others.

[wolfstanus]

thavelka wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

Who would leave the lobby open to randoms who would disrupt the process? That scenario is based on multiple far out assumptions.

wolfstanus misinterpreted me and the post I'm quoting. The point is that it really isn't harmful and is just a form of unfun grinding. The scenario was only mentioned to demonstrate how unlikely it is that anyone would be negatively impacted by it.

Actualy no I was just to lazy to delete the first part.

Theres quite a number who would leave it open. As the get a kick out of it or being lazy.

[Distilled Poison]

wolf that scenario assumes the following

1- The people focused on getting fast money want to slow it down with randoms
2- The random that joins is for some reason upset he joined a wave 10 match, but refuses to leave.
3- Once in the lobby after the wave he still won't leave, but is somehow having his game ruined.

[Seqqsy]

people like this retarded OP are gonna get me banned for insulting them. I need to take a deep breathe and not call him anything further than a clueless horrible kid who is clearly butthurt from seeing people with better gear than him

[XXIceColdXX]

Bioware need to patch this ASAP!

[TheLostGenius]

Wait what? is this a real glitch?

[CNevarezN]

My N7 score is at 180 something. I choose not to lvl up because all I want are those Spec packs. How do I buy em? Playing Gold and tearing shiet up with my Krogan. Yeah I got high lvl weapons. Why? Because of my  Dopeness. So don't assume everyone with low lvl's and high weapons are cheating.

[Illcadia]

Phatose wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

@Phatose
"Ragingnug, the exact same argument could be used to justify aimbot and dodgebots - after all, it doesn't alter my experience if my opponent is using an aimbot, versus simply having good aim.

Are you also OK with aimbot? Dodgebots?

What level of cheating are you OK with?"

You need to put that slippery slope baloney away. Getting fast credits to buy guns in the game is NOT the same as flat out altering code to automate performance. Being accepting of one is not the same as the other.

Oh, and pray tell, what's the difference?  One uses an exploit in the games code, one uses additional code on top of it.  Both are cheats.

One results in performance matching possible performance from random unlocks. The other results in performance only possible through alteration of the game's code that can never be achieved without cheating. Gee, these things are totally the same! (no the aren't, you ninny)

[Apollo I]

Honastly if someone exploits a glitch in a co-op game, yes it's the players fault for exploiting it but you can't punish someone for finding a flaw in your game and banning them for it.

But on the other side of the argument yea it's wrong to exploit these cheats and it does make it unfair to players who don't have as good weapons and see someone exploiting the glitch with powerful weapons at x.

Support whichever side you want but in the end you should not be banned for exploiting this glitch...

Modifié par Apollo I, 03 avril 2012 - 05:12 .

[jamesb71486]

Apollo I wrote...

Honastly if someone exploits a glitch in a co-op game, yes it's the players fault for exploiting it but you can't punish someone for finding a flaw in your game and banning them for it.

But on the other side of the argument yea it's wrong to exploit these cheats and it does make it unfair to players who don't have as good weapons and see someone exploiting the glitch with powerful weapons at x.

Support whichever side you want but in the end you should not be banned for exploiting this glitch...

I agree that there shouldn't be a BAN persay.. maybe a reset of their account leaving them how they were before the initial cheat process or potentially bring them back to nothing forcing them to start over from scratch while at the same time patching the glitch so that it couldn't be repeated in the future.

[mrcanada]

Say what you will, but dying and rejoining a game is not a banable offense. You may not like it and refuse to use it, but they aren't getting banned. It has been around since the demo and has been used since.

Modifying files, hacking the game, these are what will get you banned. This won't. Argue against it if you will, but that doesn't change the fact they will have gold weapons at X and working on their N7's.

[termokanden]

Why is it so easy to cheat anyway?

I had to leave twice today because something was definitely wrong. For example, I had infinite ammo in one game.

I do NOT want to play a modified game. These cheaters should just be kicked off MP permanently if you ask me. And measures should be taken to prevent cheating instead of just letting the cheaters ruin it for the rest of us while it's being logged somewhere (maybe).

Modifié par termokanden, 03 avril 2012 - 05:59 .

[xxKenshin Himura]

jamesb71486 wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

Excidius wrote...

You know what would be funny, when Bioware finds them and bans them or resets everything on their multiplayer account back to level 1 and starting weapons only, ie level 1 Avenger etc.

I don't think it would be funny, it would make the game boring. Those people would just stop playing. No fuss, they'd simply leave. If you want there to be fewer players, yeah, keep pushing for a reset. I've played with people who've exploited the bug, and they're fun to play with. If they were kicked or reset, we'd all just play something else.

"I" think it's funny that people think that other people having better gear in a co-operative game somehow ruins the experience.

Again it's not about having 'better gear', it's having the 'best gear' removing the need for them to actually work to achieve anything ultimately removing the urge to play as it gets boring to them. Either way these people are inevitably going stop playing it seems.

Newsflash, game is already boring. Having to promote so many times really did  it for me. Not to mention 10 straight character cards out of spectre packs

[Mandalore313]

Cheating is like eating your favourite desert every day.
It stops being fun very very fast.
This applies everywhere.
In here, you'll just get bored with the game and stop playing it sooner.

[termokanden]

Mandalore313 wrote...

Cheating is like eating your favourite desert every day.
It stops being fun very very fast.
This applies everywhere.
In here, you'll just get bored with the game and stop playing it sooner.

Yeah and cheating in a party based game is like rubbing your favorite dessert in everyone's faces. That isn't even good the first time.

[xxKenshin Himura]

jamesb71486 wrote...

Apollo I wrote...

Honastly if someone exploits a glitch in a co-op game, yes it's the players fault for exploiting it but you can't punish someone for finding a flaw in your game and banning them for it.

But on the other side of the argument yea it's wrong to exploit these cheats and it does make it unfair to players who don't have as good weapons and see someone exploiting the glitch with powerful weapons at x.

Support whichever side you want but in the end you should not be banned for exploiting this glitch...

I agree that there shouldn't be a BAN persay.. maybe a reset of their account leaving them how they were before the initial cheat process or potentially bring them back to nothing forcing them to start over from scratch while at the same time patching the glitch so that it couldn't be repeated in the future.

If they get reset, they will stop playing. If they stop playing = fewer people finding/hosting matches. Fewer hosts/players = more time you spend  waiting for a match.

And this was all made possible because you would not mind your own business and forget about the people taking advantage of the credit glitch because you thought for some reason having all weapons at X would make them super powerful when the real power doesn't come from guns but rather biotic explosions, something everybody can do no matter the weapon levels

[Highlord Heian]

Raging Nug wrote...

Excidius wrote...

You know what would be funny, when Bioware finds them and bans them or resets everything on their multiplayer account back to level 1 and starting weapons only, ie level 1 Avenger etc.

I don't think it would be funny, it would make the game boring. Those people would just stop playing. No fuss, they'd simply leave. If you want there to be fewer players, yeah, keep pushing for a reset. I've played with people who've exploited the bug, and they're fun to play with. If they were kicked or reset, we'd all just play something else.

"I" think it's funny that people think that other people having better gear in a co-operative game somehow ruins the experience.

Good?

They cheated. Won't break my heart if they leave.

[mrcanada]

xxKenshin Himura wrote...

jamesb71486 wrote...

Apollo I wrote...

Honastly if someone exploits a glitch in a co-op game, yes it's the players fault for exploiting it but you can't punish someone for finding a flaw in your game and banning them for it.

But on the other side of the argument yea it's wrong to exploit these cheats and it does make it unfair to players who don't have as good weapons and see someone exploiting the glitch with powerful weapons at x.

Support whichever side you want but in the end you should not be banned for exploiting this glitch...

I agree that there shouldn't be a BAN persay.. maybe a reset of their account leaving them how they were before the initial cheat process or potentially bring them back to nothing forcing them to start over from scratch while at the same time patching the glitch so that it couldn't be repeated in the future.

If they get reset, they will stop playing. If they stop playing = fewer people finding/hosting matches. Fewer hosts/players = more time you spend  waiting for a match.

And this was all made possible because you would not mind your own business and forget about the people taking advantage of the credit glitch because you thought for some reason having all weapons at X would make them super powerful when the real power doesn't come from guns but rather biotic explosions, something everybody can do no matter the weapon levels

A character reset is just as bad as a ban would be.  That isn't happening either.

[termokanden]

Highlord Heian wrote...

Good?

They cheated. Won't break my heart if they leave.

Completely agree. Not many tears will be shed.

[Mandalore313]

Sidenote : I'm pretty sure that if you get banned, it won't be just the multiplayer part of the game you'll lose access to but your whole game.

Knowing EA, they might just block your whole origin account and every game related to it.

To which the response would probably be yar har fiddle dee dee, but still ...
desert every day = boring etc.

Modifié par Mandalore313, 03 avril 2012 - 06:13 .

[Chewbob1]

Phatose wrote...

Course. There is extensive server side logging going on, as evidenced by the operations, and since all credits are handled server side, it's a relatively easy report to run. Simply check for people who got rewards in the zone of gold round 10, without round 3 or 6.

I'd expect bans incoming.

Oh, cool. Does that mean we can do it risk-free on PS3?

[Foxtrot813]

I don't understand the appeal. It's fairly easy to unlock all the Gold Weapons and characters with a little time, and even if you have a trillion credits it's very possible you won't get a single N7 weapon in all your Spectre packs due to the current unlock system. I'm guessing the people using this glitch probably have a *lot* of character cards.

[Chewbob1]

Foxtrot813 wrote...

I don't understand the appeal. It's fairly easy to unlock all the Gold Weapons and characters with a little time, and even if you have a trillion credits it's very possible you won't get a single N7 weapon in all your Spectre packs due to the current unlock system. I'm guessing the people using this glitch probably have a *lot* of character cards.

Umm, more packs = more chance? I thought it was a fairly straightforward concept.

[Zoheb]

Looks like the cheat is out. Someone just posted it on Reddit. I can't believe it's that easy... Fortunately, it's been downvoted heavily...