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Omanisat wrote...

An episode of “Hoarders” recently sent me into a neurotic frenzy of cleaning. While sorting through a pile of crap I found a copy of “Game Informer” I bought for its cover story on Mass Effect 3, dated from around this time last year. Because I’m a masochist I decided to re-read the article to see what was being said about a year ago. I’ve cherry-picked a few passages I thought were funny in hindsight.
 
From a section entitled THE PLAN:
 
“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost Reaper “off” button; says Hudson”
 
From a section called OLD CONFLICTS, NEW ALLIES:
 
“Don’t expect to win the loyalty of the galaxy by simply completing a series of fetch quests,”
 
This is a text block entitled MASS EFFECT MEETS MULTIPLAYER?
 
“When the teaser for Mass Effect 3 first released, rumours were swirling that the project was actually a multiplayer title set in the Mass Effect universe. Those rumours turned out to be false, but it got many gamers thinking about how a multiplayer component would fit into the Mass Effect trilogy. Rest assured, the team has thought about this, too. “As a single-player experience, and just as a world that people want to immerse themselves in and share, we’ve been trying to think of a way that makes sense for people to experience Mass Effect with their friends,” says executive producer Casey Hudson. “We haven’t yet come up with a way to do that, so we don’t have anything to announce at this time. But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company.”
 
In a section called BEYOND THE TRILOGY:
 
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”
 


You do!
You do!
You don't
LIES, LIES, LIES. 
Addendum: This is all too much. Even if they create a free ending DLC, fix all the major problems, and issue a major apology, I think I'm done with this company.
Now, they probably shouldn't care and don't have too, but, whatever.
Dragon Age had some potential but now that the Witcher is coming out (and it's such a better game?) And that Dragon Age 2 broke all story cohesiveness but serving us some new crappy protagionist, horrid combat, nothing spectacular.
Mass Effect 3.. Well, you can see how it's turned out.
In conclusion: Hello, CDProjkectred

Modifié par chris fenton, 03 avril 2012 - 02:43 .


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Omanisat wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Omanisat wrote...
 
“In Mass Effect 3, you know you need to take back Earth, but the path to victory is less clear at the outset. You won’t just find some long-lost Reaper “off” button; says Hudson”


Oh dear. What's the date on this magazine? [EDIT: May 2011] Could they really still not have written the overall story at that point? I guess it makes sense - the various alliance building missions and story are great, and the Crucible parts are dopey. Maybe the dopey parts were all written much later on.


One thing I found strange is that the article describes both the Tuchanka and Ranncoch sections as  being more or less the same as they are now, and they are widely considered the best parts of the game. This makes me wonder; were they flailing about for an entire year trying to come up with an ending?


We already know from the "Final Hours" app that the ending wasn't locked down until November 2011. 

I assumed this meant only the Catalyst sequence dialogue, but it seems clear from these quotes that the whole Crucible idea didn't exist at least as late as May 2011. Interestingly, the release date delay was also announced in May 2011  (the original planned release date was late 2011)

It all fits with the theory that the ME3 lead writer decided to drop the original ending and develop something new. The alliance building missions would work with both versions - the rumoured original "Dark Energy" reaper explanation and the new "Space Magic" reaper explanation - so could have been worked on while the Crucible parts were still being written.

Modifié par nullobject, 03 avril 2012 - 02:39 .


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zennyrpg wrote...

Omanisat wrote...
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”
 


:'(


:crying: d*** move Casey. D*** move

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I'm still convinced every interview they did prior to the release was an elaborate joke. No way could they give out this much misinformation without it being on purpose

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ChampDude wrote...

I'm still convinced every interview they did prior to the release was an elaborate joke. No way could they give out this much misinformation without it being on purpose


joke ?? or "marketing" ???

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This proves that Bioware has not forgotten what the players wanted. They just chose not to deliver it.

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ChampDude wrote...

I'm still convinced every interview they did prior to the release was an elaborate joke. No way could they give out this much misinformation without it being on purpose


That's just sad. I mean really, are they this desperate and afraid that if another leak came out about the ending they would be just begging the community to buy the game?

Okay, you had me there, I'll take three copies please NOT!

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Manton-X2 wrote...

I think we need to hold an intervention and get Hudson in to see a specialist. It's like he's incapable of telling the truth. Almost every direct statement he has made about ME 3 over the last year has been almost the exact opposite of what he says. It has to be an illness.

MX2

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Omanisat wrote...

In a section called BEYOND THE TRILOGY:
 
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”
 


Wow.

The lack of this statement being true, above everything else, pretty much explains what I hate about the ending.

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I personally think if bioware does decide to change the endings they should look back at the marketing quotes. >_>

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Omanisat wrote...
In a section called BEYOND THE TRILOGY:
 
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”
 

This is a real quote?   It must be taken out of context right?  Or is there a "Muahahahahaha!" at the end that you cut out?

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Heinzmann01 wrote...

Even though it is very disapointing that a lot of what was said turned out to not be true I think it is a bit far to call them lies. This was still with a long time left in the development cycle. Things probably changed in their minds, although I can't say for the better.


this was May 2011. The game was slated to be released November 2011.

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Missy_MI wrote...

Omanisat wrote...
In a section called BEYOND THE TRILOGY:
 
“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”
 


This is a real quote?   It must be taken out of context right?  Or is there a "Muahahahahaha!" at the end that you cut out?




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Gnaeus.Silvanus wrote...

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SURPRISE!

There was a Reaper off button!


Thats actually the new ending DLC.  After you wake up from indoctrination you finally make it to the conduit to be lead into a giant room with one giant red button.  It says off.  You have a discussion as to whether you should push it.  Pictures of your squadmates fly through your head, Wrex holds a painting for artistic integrity.  End Scene......


If you can't call this bad writing I don't know what else you can call it. Imagine shoot this pipe and every Reaper will die? What the hell, the Destiny Ascension or any Alliance warship could have just destroyed the Citadel the moment Shepard knew it was.


this, why didn't Shepard just call in an air strike

Modifié par ahandsomeshark, 03 avril 2012 - 03:00 .


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ahandsomeshark wrote...

Heinzmann01 wrote...

Even though it is very disapointing that a lot of what was said turned out to not be true I think it is a bit far to call them lies. This was still with a long time left in the development cycle. Things probably changed in their minds, although I can't say for the better.


this was May 2011. The game was slated to be released November 2011.


You need to look at this from January 10, 2012

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In re-reading my old copies of Game Informer regarding Mass Effect 3, my only reaction is: "Is this real life?"

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Despite the downright blatant bull**** in this article, I still have the book laying atop my collection of gaming mags. ME3's ending disturbed me, but it's something amazing beforehand.

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wow, how can anyone trust Bioware PR after all this.  I wish someone would write an article not on the endings but on all the broken promises and lies.

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“… part of what you’re trying to do is save the universe so you can live in it. That’s part of the promise, I think, for any great IP. It has to be a world worth saving… I think Mass Effect has that quality to it. If you get rid of the Reapers and win that, wouldn’t it be amazing to just live on the Citadel or just take a ship to Omega? That makes sense.”


RAINBOW KERSPLOSION!

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shnellegaming wrote...

wow, how can anyone trust Bioware PR after all this


You should not trust PR talk anyway. 

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Aaaaah! *headdesk*

Sorry, had to get that out.

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Oh my god. Everyone quote this in your signatures before this thread gets locked for using the word "lie" against Casey.

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God, I remember being excited to read that issue.
Now I'm going to get a sad movie and a pillow.

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Aedral wrote...

I have a theory... it involves Casey Hudson, Indoctrination, Synthesis and Ponies. Though the last 2 may just be the Bacardi in my system.


Nono, not that.. Asari Commandos, remember? :)