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[Homey C-Dawg]

I'm okay with the ending being sad, I'm just not okay with it being nonsensical.

[Inutaisho7996]

You're a day late with this thread.

[Serp86]

Gigamantis wrote...

Serp86 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

Someone that is ether a troll or some "fan" that does not care about the plot holes and inconsistencies in the last 5 min of the game.

Again, some plot-holes aren't the end of the world in what was an otherwise moving and intense ending.  It's about being a fan without being a psychotic about it.  It makes everything much more enjoyable. 

How do you justify an ending to a triology that won't be continued that leaves so many open question ? The worst part about it that these question only come up because the ending was so flawed. Up until the ending everything was fine for the most part. Then it was hmm what the hell just happened ?

Most questions of the ME series get answered up until the endings basically just leaves you with a bunch of new ones and gives you zero information. 

In a game that was guaranteed to have DLC I don't mind that at all.  The game we have is coming and supplemental content is on the way for those who want more.  It's not over yet, skippy. 

DLC's are supposed to provide bonus content and not add vital stuff to a supposedly complete a game....  Thats just shady buisness. Releasing content that should've been in the game to begin with to grab some more money out of peoples pockets is just low.

Modifié par Serp86, 03 avril 2012 - 02:11 .

[Mann42]

gekko513 wrote...

The ending is consistent with the rest of the series. There are clear parallels and explanations throughout. The most obvious is the Geth/Quarian conflict, which mirrors the Reaper/Organics conflict almost perfectly in miniature.

Uh, what?

Geth/Quarian Conflict
Quarians create geth as general assistance VI programs. They evolve into an AI. The Quarians panic and try to shut them down. The Geth defend themselves and drive the Quarians away. They remain isolated for a long time, until provocation from the Quarians caused some to ally with the Reapers.

Reaper/Organic Conflict
Organics evolve and exist. Reapers come along every 50,000 years and kill all of them, occassionally uplifting a compatable species into Reaper form, because one day the organics might create synthetics that will kill all of them forever. Synthetics like the Geth who only wanted to be left alone and only attacked organics again because they had Reaper help.

Yeah, I'm really not seeing the parallels. 

Modifié par nexworks, 03 avril 2012 - 02:11 .

[Gigamantis]

xMellowhype wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

How dare you voice an opinion on a public forum!

An opinion that sues ad hominems, straw mans and appeal to authorities as their main arguments shouldn't be taken seirously. Such as an idiotic post as yours.

Ugh, I hate people who cite fallacies yet have no idea what they mean.  Quit inventing purposes for my comments and go back to letting the last 5 minutes of a video game ruin your life. 

[sistersafetypin]

So I take it you haven't actually played ME1 or 2

[Holding5Aces]

Sovereign 1

Space Boy 0

[Gigamantis]

Serp86 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Serp86 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

Someone that is ether a troll or some "fan" that does not care about the plot holes and inconsistencies in the last 5 min of the game.

Again, some plot-holes aren't the end of the world in what was an otherwise moving and intense ending.  It's about being a fan without being a psychotic about it.  It makes everything much more enjoyable. 

How do you justify an ending to a triology that won't be continued that leaves so many open question ? The worst part about it that these question only come up because the ending was so flawed. Up until the ending everything was fine for the most part. Then it was hmm what the hell just happened ?

Most questions of the ME series get answered up until the endings basically just leaves you with a bunch of new ones and gives you zero information. 

In a game that was guaranteed to have DLC I don't mind that at all.  The game we have is coming and supplemental content is on the way for those who want more.  It's not over yet, skippy. 

DLC's are supposed to provide bonus content and not complete a game....  Thats just shady buisness. Releasing content that should've been in the game to begin with to grab some more money out of peoples pockets is just low.

The game was completed; which is why any new content will be supplemental.   There's no necessity to wrap up everything in a story, especially when supplemental content is assumed.  There are even books out there that leave open-ended talking points purposely. 

Whatever the explanations are you'll get them without buying the DLC anyways; they'll be on the internet within minutes.  You just choose whether or not to experience this additional supplement.  It's all perfectly reasonable, especially when the original game itself is well worth it's retail price, which ME3 was.

[Keldaurz]

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

I actually how most people died, but the ending could had been way way way better. Just check this out, ignore the the mockery of the first ones if you please and continue:

http://koobismo.devi...rt.com/gallery/ 

You will see there should had been a lot more to make a really awesome ending as this game required.

[NormanRawn]

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

Why are you complaining about complaining? This makes NO sense

If you can't stand people complaining on forums, then why are you doing it yourself. After all, this post has been done before, your contribuiting to the useless post clogging up BSN.

Look in the mirror before you judge those around you.

[Clayless]

KevShep wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Someone that is ether a troll or some "fan" that does not care about the plot holes and inconsistencies in the last 5 min of the game.

He has a different opinion than me?!?

TROLL, NOT A REAL FAN!!!!1

Opinions are fine...Iam just stating a fact.

You really need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

[ZeeKay]

The ME2 ending was the greatest of the series. A decent boss fight, lots of choice (although still limited), and you can have an absolute **** ending, mostly ****ty ending, only kind of ****ty ending, and an amazing feel good ending. Through your actions you basically choose who lives and who dies. ME3 literally has nothing on ME2's endings (and plot consistency).

[cutegigi]

re purposing the MEME from my country's native msg board:

@OP: did EA pay you $1 for your every post ? where can I sign up ?? !!!

[KevShep]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Someone that is ether a troll or some "fan" that does not care about the plot holes and inconsistencies in the last 5 min of the game.

He has a different opinion than me?!?

TROLL, NOT A REAL FAN!!!!1

Opinions are fine...Iam just stating a fact.

You really need to learn the difference between fact and opinion.

you mean there was more to it then ether that person was a troll or did not mind the inconsistencies?

[Weird]

What exactly do you mean by "ending"?
The final cutscene, or everything after going back to Earth?

[Gigamantis]

NormanRawn wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

Why are you complaining about complaining? This makes NO sense

If you can't stand people complaining on forums, then why are you doing it yourself. After all, this post has been done before, your contribuiting to the useless post clogging up BSN.

Look in the mirror before you judge those around you.

I'm not complaining about complaining.  Like the rest of you I'm sharing my opinions about the ending of the game.  My opinion is it was the best ending so far and you people are overreacting to ultimately trivial things. 

What's great about this is that I'm not angry but all of you are.  I didn't send my money to a random "change the ending" movement not knowing how it would be used.  I didn't waste hours of my life organizing petitions and attacking the developers of a fantastic game.  I'm not so distraught I can't play the game ever again.  I'm feeling pretty good.

I just kinda feel bad for the rest of you.  I think some positivity will be good for you.  

[GuilleCuba]

Gigamantis wrote...

I can't honestly think of many games, or stories in general, that didn't have some plot-holes. To let it ruin the entire game for you is beyond my ability as a rational person to comprehend. I actually feel bad for you all.

Doesn't matter, I legitimately enjoyed the entire game, ending included, and felt like interjecting some positivity. You people can continue being dramatic and starting "online movements" if it makes you lives more bearable.

Ony crapy stories have a lot of plotholes, that is something I don't expect from Mass Effect. I wish I could but but I cannot play with my brain turned off and ignore all the inconsistencies

[Keldaurz]

vivaladricas wrote...

http://www.cinemable...izon-40885.html

Interested read, i always wondered if companies did that, because some "****s" are really obvious.

[xMellowhype]

Gigamantis wrote...

xMellowhype wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

How dare you voice an opinion on a public forum!

An opinion that sues ad hominems, straw mans and appeal to authorities as their main arguments shouldn't be taken seirously. Such as an idiotic post as yours.

Ugh, I hate people who cite fallacies yet have no idea what they mean.  Quit inventing purposes for my comments and go back to letting the last 5 minutes of a video game ruin your life. 

Really your first sentence here is a straw man. The latter is implying I don't have a life is an ad hominem. I hate people who think they know stuff too but in this case you're in the wrong. (as usual)

[wintermaul55]

Well im glad u liked a color explosion.... now go back to your Rainbow and lollipop world.... where bad writing and story telling makes a good game

[gekko513]

nexworks wrote...

gekko513 wrote...

The ending is consistent with the rest of the series. There are clear parallels and explanations throughout. The most obvious is the Geth/Quarian conflict, which mirrors the Reaper/Organics conflict almost perfectly in miniature.

Uh, what?

Geth/Quarian Conflict
Quarians create geth as general assistance VI programs. They evolve into an AI. The Quarians panic and try to shut them down. The Geth defend themselves and drive the Quarians away. They remain isolated for a long time, until provocation from the Quarians caused some to ally with the Reapers.

Reaper/Organic Conflict
Organics evolve and exist. Reapers come along every 50,000 years and kill all of them, occassionally uplifting a compatable species into Reaper form, because one day the organics might create synthetics that will kill all of them forever. Synthetics like the Geth who only wanted to be left alone and only attacked organics again because they had Reaper help.

Yeah, I'm really not seeing the parallels. 

Why do you think the Reapers come along every 50000 years? If you think about it, the Geth situation would explain that perfectly. It all points to the Reapers starting out exactly like the Geth. They were created, then attacked, and then repeatedly attacked by organics, like the Geth have been now twice.

The Reapers have even chosen exile/isolation, just like the Geth. And just like the Geth, the reapers only come out and fight just as the organics are approaching at the stages in organic civilization where they are starting to become advanced enough to pose a threat to them.

The Reapers, just like the Geth, want peace, synthesis, but they don't know how to obtain it, and reach out to the organics to find that understanding.

Modifié par gekko513, 03 avril 2012 - 02:23 .

[garf]

Gigamantis wrote...

Yes, I know.  Blah blah need more explanation.  Blah blah I'm sad because everyone died and my choices didn't change the ending enough to make me less sad in future playthroughs.  

The ending was the most well produced and moving one in the entire series.  Definitely a fitting conclusion. 

I'm all for lobbying to fill in a few of the plotholes with explanations, maybe in future DLC, but man can you people overreact like no one else on the planet.  They had better not change the ending.  The game was fantastic. 

I'm glad the ending (singular) was the one you wanted. Why are you campaigning to stop them from adding a few so I get the one or five that I want?

what is the purpose of your post?

[KevShep]

Gigamantis wrote...

The game was completed; which is why any new content will be supplemental.   There's no necessity to wrap up everything in a story, especially when supplemental content is assumed.  There are even books out there that leave open-ended talking points purposely. 

Whatever the explanations are you'll get them without buying the DLC anyways; they'll be on the internet within minutes.  You just choose whether or not to experience this additional supplement.  It's all perfectly reasonable, especially when the original game itself is well worth it's retail price, which ME3 was.

If you have to make DLC to... JUST... explain the ending then the ending is not worth the time or money.

BTW what good is it to have a DLC that is only for explaining...thats no fun at all.

[Hexley UK]

Best one in the series.....only has Mass Effect 3 on his account.....nope.