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[RocketManSR2]

The ships with 3 "points" are cruiser-class vessels.



- If the asari had dedicated themselves more towards combat and shipbuilding instead of stripping, the Reapers might have had their hands full.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 03 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[jojon2se]

The true purpose of the Acnesion's main gun is to deal with pimple problems during the century-long teens of the Asari -- its destruction would be a true disaster.

[Lord Phoebus]

I saw the same Ascension video in my playthrough where the Council lived and where the Council died. I think it's supposed to the Destiny Ascension, they just didn't do a proper check to see if it was a war asset before they showed the video.

[Irx]

You can see both movies in Mass Effect 3\\BIOGame\\Movies folder, there are 2 vids -

End01_Sword_intro_pt3DA.bik - Destiny Ascention, if survived ME1
End01_Sword_intro_pt3AD.bik - generic dreadnought, if not survived

The vids are exactly the same and the ships are the same except the top tower - but hey, it did require more effort than making rgb explosions... probably. =)

[xiaoassassin]

Ending battle was still so lacking in everything. Where are the Geth, Quarians? The only real difference between a low and high EMS is Shepard saying "They're getting torn apart out there" and two short scenes with the Alliance fighter winning/dying. I would even go so far as to say low EMS players got it better because at least they got to see a destroyer land on a dreadnought go all pew pew on it.

[Irx]

xiaoassassin wrote...

Where are the Geth, Quarians?

There are actually 3-sec vids with either geth or quarian fleets arriving... and if you got both, you only somehow see quarians, lol. Totally unimpressive.

[Wildecker]

woodbyte wrote...

Who cares about the Ascension!?

What about the Qwib-qwib? What happened to her?

The Qwib-qwib being Admiral Zal'Koris' ship, his vessel goes down on Rannoch while you are fighting your way through the Geth Dreadnought, diving straight into a Geth planetary defence gun that swats Quarian ships from orbit. That's why you get the mission to rescue him - he and his crew abandoned ship in lifepods.

[cotheer]

Aside from Hanars and Elcors, DS is the third most useless thing in ME and for some reason it reminds me of:



Maybe it didn't do anything is because it fell through a plothole. O_O

[RyuujinZERO]

You know. The destiny ascension is worth 70 war assets. But the 4 alliance fleets lose 25 points of ships each in rescuing it (-100 assets)

Yes... the BEST outcome for the reaper conflict is to NOT SAVE THE COUNCIL.



*does happy dance*

Decision vindicated biatches! - Saving the colelctor base works out better too in the long run. Paragade forevah!

[Sebbe1337o]

There's a lot of things like this throughout the game that I feel just was left out. This game could've been so much more...

[Aubairjin]

RyuujinZERO wrote...

You know. The destiny ascension is worth 70 war assets. But the 4 alliance fleets lose 25 points of ships each in rescuing it (-100 assets)

Yes... the BEST outcome for the reaper conflict is to NOT SAVE THE COUNCIL.



*does happy dance*

Decision vindicated biatches! - Saving the colelctor base works out better too in the long run. Paragade forevah!

You get The Salarian Third fleet if you save the original councilor instead of the new one.

-> 125 WA instead of 75

Mean that saving the council provide 195 WA; and not saving it 175.

Uh uh.

Modifié par Aubairjin, 03 avril 2012 - 12:41 .

[BiancoAngelo7]

Sebbe1337o wrote...

There's a lot of things like this throughout the game that I feel just was left out. This game could've been so much more...

Exactly, it just gets added to the list of things that are either completely missing or horrendously incomplete that when looked at, at the end of the day you just step back and are like "what the f**k?....why didn't they just take more time to work on this? It was supposed to be the masterpiece of the series..."

To me things like this with the no show ascension and Tali's google face, the stargazer scene being copied from google, you giving a rock to tali but in the scene where you hand it to her both of you are holding nothing in your hands....it just all piles up....and I haven't even gone into detail listing all the other things...

[crazyrabbits]

Irxy wrote...

You can see both movies in Mass Effect 3BIOGameMovies folder, there are 2 vids -

End01_Sword_intro_pt3DA.bik - Destiny Ascention, if survived ME1
End01_Sword_intro_pt3AD.bik - generic dreadnought, if not survived

The vids are exactly the same and the ships are the same except the top tower - but hey, it did require more effort than making rgb explosions... probably. =)

Yeah, when all the videos were datamined right before the game was released, there was a lot of talk about why there were so few videos (comparatively speaking) for the ending. There was nothing really different or alternate about anything besides a couple additional shots of fleets reporting in, and maybe one or two alternate shots during the Sword battle itself.

There are videos online that show both the "best" and "worst" possible outcomes for the battle, and they run exactly the same length and have almost no variation.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Everything goes downhill after Hackett's speech.

They could have done soooo much more with the Earth missions... 

[Lynata]

Mhm, always liked the Destiny Ascension and actually saved her in my 2nd playthrough of ME1 (I found it easy to justify both options). Sad to see it did not get a little more attention, although at least she does show up. I'm willing to take what I can get.

commander_shepard wrote...
Lol @ the Destiny Ascension. My SSV
Normandy SR-2 has a higher war asset score when fully upgraded. Makes
me wish I just spaced the council in the first game... If only that
scene of humanity rushing in to save the day wasn't so damn amazing
though :

That's Hero Bonus for ya. Same thing about how a single N7 team from multiplayer yields a higher asset score than the entire Arcturus 1st Division or an Alliance cruiser. Hell, the upgraded Normandy makes the entire Alliance First Fleet look bad.

RocketManSR2 wrote...
If the asari had dedicated themselves more towards combat and shipbuilding instead of stripping, the Reapers might have had their hands full.

You realize this is like judging humanity based just on what people do in the ages 18-22, right?

[chengthao]

aLucidMind wrote...

Literally everything before the ending is useless =p

[Khayness]

Shame we didn't get a new flagship if the Destiny was destroyed.

[Thorwind]

woodbyte wrote...

Who cares about the Ascension!?

What about the Qwib-qwib? What happened to her?

Qwib-Qwib took a dive with Koris on board, then you have to save his sorry a**..I mean helmet, remember? :happy:

Ontopic: never tried to let the DA get blown up in ME1 so I wouldn't know for sure about the differences, but, I guess some things in the story line would change if there is no council (like the part with Udina and the council and some other small parts in the game)....correct me if I'm wrong but that might be the only thing DA does in the game, get the Council from A to B.

Destiny Ascension is there just to look pretty, much like the Asari do with all their biotics and evolution, wow, they even mastered writing.

[BiancoAngelo7]

Khayness wrote...

Shame we didn't get a new flagship if the Destiny was destroyed.

I would have settled to just see the Ascension fire it's "super huge main gun" ONCE. Just ONCE. After all the hype about it. Getting an alternate flagship would have been cool, but that's something you would expect from a game where they were able to take their time and do things right, unlike ME3.

[KyuzoS7]

kinda sucks we can't save that geth dreadnought would of been awesome to have.

the firing area play through looked just like the force unleashed play through where you go through the death star

Modifié par KyuzoS7, 03 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[jojon2se]

Come to think of it... What do the words "destiny" and "ascension", together like that, mean to the Asari, precisely? Nothing to do with Morinth's "genetic destiny" and/or the reapers' ideas, one might hope.

If there's anything about that during the Thessia, etc, parts of ME3; Don't tell me - haven't played the game yet. :9

Modifié par jojon2se, 03 avril 2012 - 03:14 .

[Fontfillmore]

Why blame the Asari and their Destiny Ascension for being useless when in fact Bioware who was too lazy to do better with the battle scene? It was Bioware who failed, not the Asari.

[Lynata]

jojon2se wrote...
Come to think of it... What do the words "destiny" and "ascension", together like that, mean to the Asari, precisely? Nothing to do with Morinth's "genetic destiny" and/or the reapers' ideas, one might hope.

I always took it as the asari fulfilling their cultural destiny by ascending to the stars and spreading their values. It's them who took the initiative in uniting the first species under the Citadel government, after all, and they are generally seen as a guiding influence for the galactic community. What better name for the mightiest vessel in Citadel space and flagship of the asari cause?

In an expanded sense, it could encompass the (perceived) destiny of all intelligent life in the galaxy as currently represented by unification under the auspices of the Citadel, which in turn acts as a means for future ascension into an even higher state of being - be it mentally, corporally or even just socially. Also, they do have this belief that all life is connected...

Anyone remembers the ending of Babylon 5?

Modifié par Lynata, 03 avril 2012 - 03:56 .

[StarAce905-2]

That's why I never save it. Not even in my full paragon playthroughs.