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Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
Gigamantis wrote...
Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism. The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got. Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult.
BatmanPWNS wrote...
Changing the ending will take too much time, Bioware can't be bothered to do that.
We aren't demanding creative control. All we are demanding that they deliver on what they promised. Because those promises are some of the reasons lots of people purchased this game. Also we didn't pay 60 dollars to play their game, we payed 80 euros to pay OUR game... it became ours when we bought it, and we bought it under false advertising. We have legitimite complaints and you are the one trying to deflect that. For some reason you feel the urge to defend a company that completely dropped the ball.Gigamantis wrote...
Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism. The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got. Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult.
Actually, 90% of the criticism was review bombing and moronic threats on these forums. A few people actually put some thought into their opinions and now you all try to claim it? Hilarious.Disciple888 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism. The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got. Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult.
Actually, 90% of the criticism has been constructive. Most Retakers are asking for narrative coherence, not a fanfic ending. Way to troll by calling us "children." Are you 12?
Gigamantis wrote...
Actually, 90% of the criticism was review bombing and moronic threats on these forums. A few people actually put some thought into their opinions and now you all try to claim it? Hilarious.
Respect to the very few people who were civil in their criticism but the vast majority of you got the apathy you deserve. Learn how to conduct yourself if you want to be taken seriously.
Arik7 wrote...
BioWare is NOT listening.
Sending in theories is attempting to write the ending; the LAST thing I want is to see the horrible theories on these forums end up in the game. And no, you paid $60 to PLAY THEIR GAME. They own the franchise, they own the story and they own every character you love. You own the disk and they own every last pixel of content. If you don't understand that then you're not capable of being constructive.Kitedtk wrote...
We aren't demanding creative control. All we are demanding that they deliver on what they promised. Because those promises are some of the reasons lots of people purchased this game. Also we didn't pay 60 dollars to play their game, we payed 80 euros to pay OUR game... it became ours when we bought it, and we bought it under false advertising. We have legitimite complaints and you are the one trying to deflect that. For some reason you feel the urge to defend a company that completely dropped the ball.Gigamantis wrote...
Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism. The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got. Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult.
The ending can hardly be described as fine. Also hundreds and thousands of people are being constructive, people are making theories, sending in suggestions, making videos of ideas for how the end could be either re-done or saved. If that isn't contructive i don't know what is.
You would do well to heed your own advice. Certainly one thing we see here is that, after the smoke clears, BioWare will have exactly the customer base it deserves.Gigamantis wrote...
Nothing ensures quality, but humoring fan ideas and caving to fan pressure over the direction of creative decisions is a sure way to guarantee that all future content will be horrible.Silpheed58 wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
You act like the ensures quality. Ridiculous.
There's a reason that nobodies beating down your door to help them write a story, you're not talented.Development goals aren't promises. What you got was a fantastic game. The horrible, unproductive way you reacted means you didn't even deserve the minimal acknowledgement Bioware gave your complaints. Learn to conduct yourself better if you want to be treated like someone who has an opinion worth hearing.Deserved nothing? Dude we paid $60 bucks for "16 different endings". Integrity means delivering on what you promised.
Gigamantis wrote...
Sending in theories is attempting to write the ending; the LAST thing I want is to see the horrible theories on these forums end up in the game. And no, you paid $60 to PLAY THEIR GAME. They own the franchise, they own the story and they own every character you love. You own the disk and they own every last pixel of content. If you don't understand that then you're not capable of being constructive.Kitedtk wrote...
We aren't demanding creative control. All we are demanding that they deliver on what they promised. Because those promises are some of the reasons lots of people purchased this game. Also we didn't pay 60 dollars to play their game, we payed 80 euros to pay OUR game... it became ours when we bought it, and we bought it under false advertising. We have legitimite complaints and you are the one trying to deflect that. For some reason you feel the urge to defend a company that completely dropped the ball.Gigamantis wrote...
Ugh, quit deflecting. I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story. Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that. You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.durasteel wrote...
Gigamantis wrote...
Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.
The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?
Simple--won't buy their crap any more.
What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.
The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.
You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "LeaveBritneyBioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.
The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism. The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got. Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult.
The ending can hardly be described as fine. Also hundreds and thousands of people are being constructive, people are making theories, sending in suggestions, making videos of ideas for how the end could be either re-done or saved. If that isn't contructive i don't know what is.
The ending is fine; I've been through several stories that have had some open-ended questions in the end and it's never ruined them. Some people don't like that kind of thing but it's all opinion.
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