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Gigamantis wrote...

Actually, 90% of the criticism was review bombing and moronic threats on these forums.  A few people actually put some thought into their opinions and now you all try to claim it?  Hilarious.  

Respect to the very few people who were civil in their criticism but the vast majority of you got the apathy you deserve.  Learn how to conduct yourself if you want to be taken seriously. 


I think you're confusing retakers with pro-enders. And in that case that percentage should be 95.

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Ashilana wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Actually, 90% of the criticism was review bombing and moronic threats on these forums.  A few people actually put some thought into their opinions and now you all try to claim it?  Hilarious.  

Respect to the very few people who were civil in their criticism but the vast majority of you got the apathy you deserve.  Learn how to conduct yourself if you want to be taken seriously. 


I find it amusing when one of the more obvious trolls on these forums gets self-righteous in their defense of Bioware.  I know they made some good games, but that level of loyalty is really quite impressive.

I'm not all that loyal.  In fact, I'm done with Bioware forever if they even attempt to change the ending into one of the crap theories on this forum.  It's my opinion that ME3 is a good game and that the ending is fine.  Sometimes stories end with some open-ended questions.  It happens and it hardly ruins anything about the story. 

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*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.

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anlk92 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Actually, 90% of the criticism was review bombing and moronic threats on these forums.  A few people actually put some thought into their opinions and now you all try to claim it?  Hilarious.  

Respect to the very few people who were civil in their criticism but the vast majority of you got the apathy you deserve.  Learn how to conduct yourself if you want to be taken seriously. 


I think you're confusing retakers with pro-enders. And in that case that percentage should be 95.

Right, the pro-enders were the ones review bombing sites and spamming the forums calling everyone who disagrees with them a troll. 

No new ending for you, friend.  Sorry. 

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Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


*looks at only ME3 sticker under profile picture* poor guy doesn't know any better

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Gigamantis wrote...

Kitedtk wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

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Gigamantis wrote...

Thank god. Bioware actually has some backbone. Now I can buy future ME3 DLC knowing it won't be based on horrible fan ideas and pressure. The artists can create without being inhibited by the schlock on these forums.

The way you people reacted you deserved nothing, and thankfully that's what you got. Being unreasonable, petulant children didn't get you your way. Now what will you do?


Simple--won't buy their crap any more.

What takes your post from "troll" all the way to "clueless" is your comment about artists. There is no "art" in the ending. It's a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute mess. It was written in November with just enough time to do voice-over and animation in time for the January deadline to send it off for console certification.

The demand for a new ending has been a demand for art--real art. We've been asking for BioWare to craft an ending that reflected their ability and matched the rest of the game.

You want to know who the petulant children are? Look in a mirror. Those of you who act like any criticism levelled at BioWare is just mean, who act like we're not consumers of a product, and that our dissatisfaction has no legitimacy. Grow up. This is business, and success in business involves satisfying customer demand. When you put a blanket over your head and settle in with a flashlight and a webcam to cry "Leave Britney BioWare alone!" you can't expect to be taken seriously, and when you act like the simple fact that we are critical of this half-assed ending means that we're Philistines who do not deserve a good ending, well... that just makes you look like a cloaca.

Ugh, quit deflecting.  I'm not saying you don't have a right to complain, I'm saying you shouldn't expect to have creative control of the ending of someone else's story.  Only a child who thinks the world revolves around him would attempt something like that.  You paid $60 to play THEIR game, not to get a seat at the writers table and have producer credits.

The ending was fine and you would only deserve acknowledgement if you were constructive in your criticism.  The people against the ending were far from constructive, so you actually deserve less than what you got.  Sorry, maybe next time you want something you'll ask for it like an adult. 

We aren't demanding creative control. All we are demanding that they deliver on what they promised. Because those promises are some of the reasons lots of people purchased this game. Also we didn't pay 60 dollars to play their game, we payed 80 euros to pay OUR game... it became ours when we bought it, and we bought it under false advertising. We have legitimite complaints and you are the one trying to deflect that. For some reason you feel the urge to defend a company that completely dropped the ball.

The ending can hardly be described as fine. Also hundreds and thousands of people are being constructive, people are making theories, sending in suggestions, making videos of ideas for how the end could be either re-done or saved. If that isn't contructive i don't know what is.

Sending in theories is attempting to write the ending; the LAST thing I want is to see the horrible theories on these forums end up in the game.  And no, you paid $60 to PLAY THEIR GAME.  They own the franchise, they own the story and they own every character you love.  You own the disk and they own every last pixel of content.  If you don't understand that then you're not capable of being constructive.

The ending is fine; I've been through several stories that have had some open-ended questions in the end and it's never ruined them.  Some people don't like that kind of thing but it's all opinion. 

If someone sends in a suggestion that they like.. i doubt they'd take it as is... oh maybe they'd give the idea to their... i don't know... professional writing staff for them to write it up properly? maybe... Also i don't see why some of the suggestions wouldn't be just accepted right away... some of the people making those theories are also professional writers... so please take your biased opinion on fans and bin it.
So just because i don't own the rights to make money off of the content i can't be constructive? wow you are really a genious. truly thy mind is a brilliant gem. Also please stop implying that i paid dollars... i paid euros and it was more than 60. even if they Own something, when they sell us that something they have promises to keep, if they fail. we have a right to demand that the promises be upheld.

also... the ending would have been acceptable in a game that was a completely forced linear narrative... that is something the mass effect series has definately not been... hence a forced single end is an insult the the very game series.

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Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.

See, the retakers have nothing.  lol@ the join date rebuttal.  Keep 'em coming retakers, way to be constructive. 

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Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.

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Kamuchi wrote...

If there is just a dlc with explaining the end, i`ll save every one $10

The galaxy is screwed


Pretty much. It'll be a 10.00 interactive comic book (if we're lucky it will be interactive) that tells us we're screwed and thanks for buying BW products so they can rip us off with a smile on their faces. They've handled this so badly from the get go what makes everyone so sure they'll be able to fix it? I forsee them screwing up again and driving away more fans. They'll go the way of so many other small companies who lost their way and suffered for it before being totally lost.

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Gigamantis wrote...

I'm not all that loyal.  In fact, I'm done with Bioware forever if they even attempt to change the ending into one of the crap theories on this forum. 


And nothing of value will be lost.

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M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.


Yes but you joined before release.

He joined almost a MONTH later.

A lot of trolls joined around 20-30th of March.

Modifié par Arokel, 03 avril 2012 - 03:26 .


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Lol @ people still calling for Indoctrination Theory. It's obviously not going to happen. But then again, that was always obvious, so if you haven't picked that up by now......

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Gigamantis wrote...

I'm not all that loyal.  In fact, I'm done with Bioware forever if they even attempt to change the ending into one of the crap theories on this forum.  It's my opinion that ME3 is a good game and that the ending is fine.  Sometimes stories end with some open-ended questions.  It happens and it hardly ruins anything about the story.

"Sometimes stories have nonsensical crap that doesn't make sense, but it's not like it ruins the story or anything!" Are you even listening to yourself?

Also, you don't have to emphasize that "it's your opinion" that you like the ending in every single post you make.  We know it's your opinion.  Saying it over and over again doesn't make it any less wrong.

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Arokel wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.


Yes but you joined before release.

He joined almost a MONTH later.

A lot of trolls joined around 20-30th of March.


Are you having trouble reading dates?  The supposed "troll" joined February 24. 

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And bioware thinks I'm going to buy ME 4 after my hopes being crushed in ME 3 and all lies in official statements? No thanks, i'm taking my money elsewhere

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CaliGuy033 wrote...

Arokel wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.


Yes but you joined before release.

He joined almost a MONTH later.

A lot of trolls joined around 20-30th of March.


Are you having trouble reading dates?  The supposed "troll" joined February 24. 


oh...

its too early.

Still Giga is a troll.  

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If someone sends in a suggestion that they like.. i doubt they'd take it
as is... oh maybe they'd give the idea to their... i don't know...
professional writing staff for them to write it up properly? maybe...
Also i don't see why some of the suggestions wouldn't be just accepted
right away... some of the people making those theories are also
professional writers... so please take your biased opinion on fans and
bin it.
So just because i don't own the rights to make money off of
the content i can't be constructive? wow you are really a genious. truly
thy mind is a brilliant gem. Also please stop implying that i paid
dollars... i paid euros and it was more than 60. even if they Own
something, when they sell us that something they have promises to keep,
if they fail. we have a right to demand that the promises be upheld.

also...
the ending would have been acceptable in a game that was a completely
forced linear narrative... that is something the mass effect series has
definately not been... hence a forced single end is an insult the the
very game series.

The suggestions on this forum are horrible and if Bioware did accept them it would be a heartless gesture completely devoid of integrity.  It would be an embarrassment. 

As for your crap about being lied to; there's no such thing as a promise in development.  Anything stated in development is just a goal and OFTEN WILL CHANGE.  That's reality, deal with it.  

Finally, I didn't say you have to make money to be constructive.  You have to understand that it's THEIR GAME to be constructive.  You don't understand that.  You think all that content is yours and that gives you the illusion that you have the right to change it.  You're way to self-important to be constructive.  

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Arokel wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.


Yes but you joined before release.

He joined almost a MONTH later.

A lot of trolls joined around 20-30th of March.

So February was a month after the game was released?  Yeesh, this is what I'm arguing with. 

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Arokel wrote...

oh...

its too early.

Still Giga is a troll.  


I don't think he's a troll in the slightest.  He's a guy who has a (very) controversial opinion, and it's easier for people to dismiss him as a troll than to address him in substance.

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Gigamantis wrote...

Arokel wrote...

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

Arokel wrote...

*looks at Gigamantis's join date*

Oh hi troll.


Some of us did join the forums in anticipation of Mass Effect 3.  Get real.


Yes but you joined before release.

He joined almost a MONTH later.

A lot of trolls joined around 20-30th of March.

So February was a month after the game was released?  Yeesh, this is what I'm arguing with. 


Read my earlier post Giga.

Still doesn't change the fact you are a troll and purposefully trying to get people riled up.

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Gigamantis wrote...

If someone sends in a suggestion that they like.. i doubt they'd take it
as is... oh maybe they'd give the idea to their... i don't know...
professional writing staff for them to write it up properly? maybe...
Also i don't see why some of the suggestions wouldn't be just accepted
right away... some of the people making those theories are also
professional writers... so please take your biased opinion on fans and
bin it.
So just because i don't own the rights to make money off of
the content i can't be constructive? wow you are really a genious. truly
thy mind is a brilliant gem. Also please stop implying that i paid
dollars... i paid euros and it was more than 60. even if they Own
something, when they sell us that something they have promises to keep,
if they fail. we have a right to demand that the promises be upheld.

also...
the ending would have been acceptable in a game that was a completely
forced linear narrative... that is something the mass effect series has
definately not been... hence a forced single end is an insult the the
very game series.

The suggestions on this forum are horrible and if Bioware did accept them it would be a heartless gesture completely devoid of integrity.  It would be an embarrassment. 

As for your crap about being lied to; there's no such thing as a promise in development.  Anything stated in development is just a goal and OFTEN WILL CHANGE.  That's reality, deal with it.  

Finally, I didn't say you have to make money to be constructive.  You have to understand that it's THEIR GAME to be constructive.  You don't understand that.  You think all that content is yours and that gives you the illusion that you have the right to change it.  You're way to self-important to be constructive.  

Giga... i was not referring to only the theories on the BSN... some of which are decent... yet you seem to have some form of fan hatred that blinds you to those. sure, there are several which i'd describe as "fanfictionesque" but then again not even all of those are that bad. just clumsy. Also any company that completely fails to realise this amount of fan feedback cannot argue for integrity.

and look. If the makers get on a camera for national programs and say stuff like "The game will have multiple varied and diverser endings!" then that is a promise we can hold them to...

i'm not saying i have to right to change it. but i do have the right to say it needs to be changed. and i have the right to make my opinion heard.

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Stop feeding the troll and he'll eventually get bored and leave.

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I prefer to see what happens at PAX. All I read in that article was the same thing that had been said before by Ray.

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It doesn't say no extended ending. It just says no -changed- ending. That's a huge difference. Mountains out of mole-hills. =|