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Chanvree wrote...

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Daniel Gonzalez from EA Latin America is either going to be seriously reprimanded or fired for making an "official" statement before EA or, more importantly, BioWare. It is especially stupid considering his statement contradicts Ray Muzyka's earlier statement that more news would be coming later this month. Gonzalez is an idiot. Don't believe anything until you hear it straight from BioWare, Edmonton.


He is from marketing and I doubt he knew what Bioware truly plans to do.  Hence why he based his whole estament is about financing of the ending. 


All the more reason to not make a statement at all. It wasn't his place.

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Arokel wrote...

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Ray Muzyka (co-founder/Bioware): “I just finished an end to end playthrough, for me the ending was the most satisfying of any game I’ve ever played….the decisions you make in this game are epic,” “The team has been planning for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise. Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years. It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but over the course of five or ten years.”


Wow. I honestly forgot about that statement. I wish I could have had his reaction.

I suspect that statement was nothing but a PR lie.


That statement isn't even true consider the lead writer Drew had nothing to do with ME3

Wow.

Just wow.

I do not think I could lie to people like that.



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Gemini1179 wrote...

That clarified things beautifully for me- now I KNOW I won't be spending any money on ME3 DLC.


A bit hasty, given the source. But why wait for anything OFFICIAL, eh?:lol:

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tjc2 wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Kitedtk wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

chuckwells62 wrote...

Ray Muzyka (co-founder/Bioware): “I just finished an end to end playthrough, for me the ending was the most satisfying of any game I’ve ever played….the decisions you make in this game are epic,” “The team has been planning for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise. Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years. It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but over the course of five or ten years.”


Wow. I honestly forgot about that statement. I wish I could have had his reaction.

I suspect that statement was nothing but a PR lie.


That statement isn't even true consider the lead writer Drew had nothing to do with ME3

Wow.

Just wow.

I do not think I could lie to people like that.


Why did you change my quote?  

I never mentioned Drew...

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Pretty sure that he's just mirroring what Ray Muzyka said in his letter. They've never claimed to be making a new ending--only that they were going to give us something that provides closure.

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Old news they announced via twitter etc there wouldn't be "new" endings just a continuation of them. This leaves room for the idt to either be true or to answer questions add more to the current ending.

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PsychoWARD23 wrote...

Bethesda's sci-fi bounty hunter game got cancelled. :/


Is that official yet, or still just rumoured? That game looks (looked?) promising.

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I never expected Bioware to provide a completely new ending. They have every right to decide how the story should end. My gripe has always been that, part of the last 5 minutes of the game seems rushed, and some scenes appears completely wierd, especially the scene with the Normandy.

In terms of ending variations, no matter how 'varied' the ending is gonna be, it will always be the storytelling of a scripted event. Mass Effect 2 only had minor variations (crew member survival) of two endings (destroy/keep base) that actually makes squat difference in the end. The stand-out point for ME2 is that player-choice matters in what variations you get even though the ending itself is the same. I'd be plenty happy if the DLC introduces more variations according to EMS. 

 

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Just clarifying is insufficient to deliver the promised varied and diverse endings...
They need to make entirely new endings to keep promises.

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Pax of Doom wrote...

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No, no they are not doing IT.  They aren't adding anything.  The most you're going to get is some "clarifying" epilogues or cutscenes.  Ray made that clear.  This guy makes that clear.  How you would ever believe a company would release a completely unfinished game is beyond me.

And the Shep breathing is not "secret".  It's from the script, it's always been there, it's meaningless and there's no way to tell where he/she is.  Nor is it "canon".  The "best" ending, according to the script, which has the EXACT same endings, is synergy.  Hence, it's the last choice to unlock.  There is no "canon" ending.


Exactly.  The current endings are like a one-sentence answer to a question.  If this report is true, then they're only explanding that one sentence to an essay.  Nothing changes, nothing matters, but you now know how your crew dies horriffic deaths on the ground, or how long it takes the Quarians to go back to Rannoch. Maybe they throw in a line about how the Alliance must abandon Earth, as the devastation is too great to fix, and so move to the stars. 

Ultimately, it sounds like they're turning Red/Green/Blue into Crimson-Scarlet-Mauve/Celadon-Sage-Emerald/Navy-Cornflower-Cyan


HOW DO YOU explain writing "Cyan" in white!!!!??? Space Magic?! Pff, darn plotholes

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>.> you have to be joking if I wanted an epilouge I would replay DAO
-_-' guess an explination is better than nothing just hope we dont have to pay for it

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Persephone wrote...

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This thread isn't about the quality of the ending, though, it's discussing what is perceived to be Bioware's decision on this matter. I support it because I liked the ending and because of the horrible way the fans conducted themselves, and I'm talking about the majority of you.

So, you support the "bad endings" to "punish" the people who expressed their feelings?

You miss the part where I said I liked the ending?  I support the good ending because I like it and I support Bioware's decision to disregard tantrums because I don't like tantrums.  If you had all been constructive and reasonable I'd probably want you to get some kind of new ending just because I was impressed with the community.  This place is a cesspool, though.  


Oh look whos back.  

The endings make no sense.  How is that not clear?

Just leave.


Just learn some manners?

Can't people like the endings here and NOT be treated like this?

The endings did make sense TO ME, even though I do want clarification on some things.

There is no bloody dogma that turns negative opinions on the endings into facts. People should remember that.


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Also, I doubt someone who works at an EA Latin America Branch knows what the America/Canada based Bioware are up to. Anything he might have heard is, at worst, out of date or secondhand.


This.

And 2 weeks time before any announcements when PAX is 3 days away? Real.

Not trustworthy.



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Poizun85 wrote...

Old news they announced via twitter etc there wouldn't be "new" endings just a continuation of them. This leaves room for the idt to either be true or to answer questions add more to the current ending.


link plz

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Well... They have lots of explaining to do to justify how the current ending with Starchild fits in with my playthrough (unifying the Geth and Quarians, helping EDI make moral choices), and why Shepard becoms such a wimp. At this point I doubt they can pull it off. I guess I'm going to have to swear off Mass Effect after all....

This sucks. Unrestricted and creative endings my @ss.

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guvnordisney wrote...

Chanvree wrote...

guvnordisney wrote...

Daniel Gonzalez from EA Latin America is either going to be seriously reprimanded or fired for making an "official" statement before EA or, more importantly, BioWare. It is especially stupid considering his statement contradicts Ray Muzyka's earlier statement that more news would be coming later this month. Gonzalez is an idiot. Don't believe anything until you hear it straight from BioWare, Edmonton.


He is from marketing and I doubt he knew what Bioware truly plans to do.  Hence why he based his whole estament is about financing of the ending. 


All the more reason to not make a statement at all. It wasn't his place.



True it wasn't but I ent you anything he is getting pressure about
it.  I can't believe he spoke with just a few days before Pax then again
he is not from bioware and his stament was bland, mix with finacial
costs and sales of the games.  What I love is that him himself talked
about saying that the ending was the best they could.  He was everywhere
in that article.  For a marketing guy he kinda forgot to consult public
relations on this :P

Modifié par Chanvree, 03 avril 2012 - 05:12 .


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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

>.> you have to be joking if I wanted an epilouge I would replay DAO
-_-' guess an explination is better than nothing just hope we dont have to pay for it


EA releasing something for free?


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Who do you think they are?  CD Projekt?

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Gigamantis wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

This thread isn't about the quality of the ending, though, it's discussing what is perceived to be Bioware's decision on this matter. I support it because I liked the ending and because of the horrible way the fans conducted themselves, and I'm talking about the majority of you.

So, you support the "bad endings" to "punish" the people who expressed their feelings?

You miss the part where I said I liked the ending?  I support the good ending because I like it and I support Bioware's decision to disregard tantrums because I don't like tantrums.  If you had all been constructive and reasonable I'd probably want you to get some kind of new ending just because I was impressed with the community.  This place is a cesspool, though.  


I think you're being a bit harsh, there. Most of the people I've seen come and make a single post about how they loved the series, but the endings spoiled it for them, and then post nothing further. Most anti-enders I've seen will be polite to pro-enders until the pro-enders do something like call them immature, entitled, or the like. Both of which are fairly insulting, even if used passively. No doubt that the review bombers are over-emotional, but condemning a group because of the actions of their worst? That's the kind of thinking that leads to people hating Muslims because of Islamic extremists.

You of course can't please everyone, but you *can* please most people in a game, simply by having sufficient variety, so that the odds are that at least one ending will be close to the prefered emotional resonance of any one individual. Bioware promised that both implictly (via the endings of their other games) and explicitly (via press statements and interviews), and did not deliver on it. Yes, the more immature people are more likely to behave badly, because they're young and hormonal etc, but there are plenty of us adult players who are unhappy, waited to see if we'd feel better about the endings the next day, then a few days later, but found no catharsis in the end. And so we've come to campaign for the ending we feel is worthy of what was arguably the most promising sci-fi epic this century so far (it is of course early years, yet!). Please don't be put off by the fact that there *are* some vocal ****s in this community, because there are, and they are on both sides.

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Well i know what I will be youtubing and not buying along with any bioware product now, if true.

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Arokel wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

>.> you have to be joking if I wanted an epilouge I would replay DAO
-_-' guess an explination is better than nothing just hope we dont have to pay for it


EA releasing something for free?


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Who do you think they are?  CD Projekt?



Except that CDPR's free DLC (Troll nonsense & A sack full...blah blah) is nothing compared to LOTSB or Overlord.

And CDPR promised 16 endings for TW2. It has three, at BEST. So they lied as well.

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leewells wrote...

Just saw on twitter, OP: the info is false -- they are adding post-ending DLC.


Link?....please....I was just on their Twitter and I didn't see that said....

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The only "clarification" I want is: "We were completely stoned out of our gourds and thought the godkid would be super wicked. We realize now that the ending was a colossal failure and sincerely apologize. We value our fans and promise to make this right with several completely new endings to the game."

There you go -- ending clarified.

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torudoom wrote...

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Bethesda's sci-fi bounty hunter game got cancelled. :/


Is that official yet, or still just rumoured? That game looks (looked?) promising.


Prey 2 has been canned, just save your money for Firaxis's X-COM.

Modifié par Murkman4683, 03 avril 2012 - 05:16 .


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So a guy CLAIMING to be from EA Latin America says they are not releasing a new ending. A guy from EA Latin America and not BioWare or EA Corprate, and a guy who likely has nothing to do with the Mass Effect series and what the developers are doing whatsoever. There is no reason for this guy to be in the loop about this.

I do not see how this is a legitimate source. It is as legitimate as the "employee" who "leaked" future ME3 DLC on 4chan.

I am not listening to anything anyone claiming to be from EA, especially some random PR guy from EA Latin America, not until PAX East, or until BioWare makes an official statement at least.

Modifié par GME_ThorianCreeper, 03 avril 2012 - 05:19 .


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Persephone wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

>.> you have to be joking if I wanted an epilouge I would replay DAO
-_-' guess an explination is better than nothing just hope we dont have to pay for it


EA releasing something for free?


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Who do you think they are?  CD Projekt?



Except that CDPR's free DLC (Troll nonsense & A sack full...blah blah) is nothing compared to LOTSB or Overlord.

And CDPR promised 16 endings for TW2. It has three, at BEST. So they lied as well.




Enhanced Edition for Witcher 2 will be free for people who own the game already.

And I saw nothing saying 16 endings for Witcher 2.  And there were only two endings right?