Gigamantis wrote...
The backlash is mostly based on personal preference, not ACTUAL problems. They wanted a specific kind of ending and a lot of vocal fans wanted the opposite. If you force them to redo their work over a creative difference of opinion you're not a source of feedback, you're actually a detriment. People can't separate their immediate emotional reactions from the actual gauge of quality and that's why fan feedback has to be put through a strict filter. Not much of it is serviceable.The only reason BW don't -want- to is because of money, let's be honest. There is a point where hard-headed obstinance should take a backseat to doing the logical, right thing. A point where you have to let your defenses down and just put your hands up and say "Ok, maybe we ****ed up, we'll look into it." Honestly, as an artist, if you receive this much of a backlash something will tick in the back of your mind about the work you produced - if a person is as stubborn and apparently unyielding as BW about their "artistic integrity" in the face of such criticism it's just defensive behaviour and not indicative of real confidence.
Some feedback is just "GRARAHRGH" I admit, but there are alot of objective reasonings as to why the endings were poor on these very forums. There are alot of actual problems with the endings, there really are, and besides: emotional impetus is a part of feedback in art, since emotion and art are intrinsic. If you produce this kind of response from people who witnessed the end while that's not great advice or constructive feedback as to how to fix the problem, it is indicative that perhaps the ending you produced wasn't as good as you thought.
Also, what constitutes an "actual" problem in perceptive media is an accumulation - a consensus - of personal preference: that is objectivity in art.
I've also never been against the company listening to feedback, but there's nothing in any of the complaints listed against the ending that would justify forcing them to rework it. In the end this was a reactionary emotional response that hasn't resulted in good ideas. Take the feedback as an opportunity to learn about your audience but don't compromise your artists in the process.Why is this relevant? Because viewers are always able to see the macro-level immediately, which means alot of the time they'll see something you missed. I think BW was guilty of this - getting sucked into the micro-level - in the production of the ending. And I also think they had time restraints so weren't able to take a "break" away from their work so they could come back and look at it on a macro-level. How this fits into the story is things about the ending that cause problems with the story of the series as a whole (macro) whereas they may have worked - in their eyes - on a micro-level (the Catalyst conversion itself or the awesome scene rushing to the Conduit etc.)
Because of that I honestly believe you should - as an artist - take such level and ferocity of criticism seriously, especially from fans. Fans, by definition, will not be doing this in spite or because they're trolls or hate the company: it will be genuine. And if there are this many individuals genuinely at odds with what you've produced then it's quite possible there is something amiss.
Just one note: I sincerely hope your second sentence is not a follow on from your first: ie. insinuating that artists that change their works, even if they want to, all sell out - not saying it is but I'm not sure if you meant that or not. If you did then apparently Leonardo Da Vinci was a crap artist. If you didn't mean that then fair enough.
Well, I'm not speaking purely from what's in this thread, I'm speaking from all the concerns raised by people against the endings since the entire debacle began. There has been alot of good feedback - workable feedback - that could be used directly in reworking it. There have also been a great deal of balanced, objective reviews of the ending describing what it failed to do that it should have succeeded at: literally, dozens of these reviews exist, both here on BSN from posters and from actual website reviewers. And whilst you say you're not against BW listening to feedback, your post then goes on to suggest (at least how I read it) that somehow they should just put that feedback on little bits of paper in some little jar somewhere and not actually act upon it: that's not really listening. Ok, it's engaging your ears (or eyes) but to truly listen is to give credence.
The reason you're seeing less of it right now is because quite honestly it's all been said and any long, well-constructed and time-consuming post describing these issues will essentially be a rehash of what's already out there.
Quite honestly, with the sheer wealth of both quality criticism and emotional turmoil (because both count, just the former is more credible) over this it really is something that if BW were to just ignore it would be ignorant IMO and tantamount to thinking themselves above criticism.
Modifié par Myrmedus, 03 avril 2012 - 08:05 .
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