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[daftPirate]

CPTHughJardon wrote...

answer the following:
what difference did it make saving the rachni queen in 1 to killing her?
the difference in legion survivng to being killed in 2?
the difference between wrex and wreave in context to the story?

there just the things i saw on my playthroughs but its the same for every major plot line in ME3.regardless of you're previous choices,the important plots in 3 just botched you're previous decisions,ie legion dies in 2 but in 3 you get a geth that looks exactly the same and has "legions memories",how original

As far as this goes, I still don't get what people were expecting, because for the most part it sounds like they're wanting a completely different mission set for every choice. You know the differences. With the rachni queen dead, the new one betrays you, without legion its that much more difficult to save both the Quarians and Geth, and without Wrex its possible to sabotage the genophage cure undetected, and save Mordin. This besides the variations on dialogue interactions.

I see that people are frustrated and so many say their choices didn't matter, but I've never seen anyone explain what "should" have happened. How was Bioware supposed to do it?

@DigitalAvatar

You're exactly right. I hope my initial comment was not mistaken for a bash on Skyrim, or a defense of ME3 (unlike the above), I'm just sure there will be many games to meet and exceed the strengths of both titles will come out over the next two years.

[Blight Nug]

If mass effect 3 had a decent ending it would be in a league of its own that is above skyrim.
The whole saga would then go down in history as an untouchable legend such as Michael Jordan.

[AnthonyDraft]

I believe 6-8 months would be enough.

[kalle90]

Skyrim is better simply when standing on some mountain or anywhere and looking at how day turns into night turns into day.

That is art, joy to look at. Not any of the clunky small areas or disconnecting conversations of ME3. No Skyrim isn't perfect either, especially as a pure RPG, but it's close.

[AlienWolf728]

Blight Nug wrote...

If mass effect 3 had a decent ending it would be in a league of its own that is above skyrim.
The whole saga would then go down in history as an untouchable legend such as Michael Jordan.

+1

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 03 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

time and money, this is the real problem, ME3 is out to soon, 1 or 2 years more for complete the game,

the story have some part cut or missing, whre is the Dark Energy theory, or why Cerberus have take Omega and why Omega is like the Crcucible ?

i have write my theory on BSN in my blog, Omega is the first Crucible made by Prothean, is imcomplete, but TIM have some project for this old relic,

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 03 avril 2012 - 07:49 .

[Dude_in_the_Room]

DayusMakhina wrote...

Skyrim has a very high replayability value? It has absolutely none for me, granted I loved the game the first run through, but come the second one (which I did start, never finished) you've already seen the beauty of the scale of the world so it's not really "wow" anymore, it's more "eugh, time to travel this stupidly long pointless road to my next objective".

Granted, that makes it sound like I hate exploration, I don't, I love the freedom to go where I want, what I don't like is when it takes so long to go anywhere at all, just becomes a bore.

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Blight Nug wrote...

If mass effect 3 had a decent ending it would be in a league of its own that is above skyrim.
The whole saga would then go down in history as an untouchable legend such as Michael Jordan.

I don't see it.To much auto dialog,a journal which was the pits. and those side quest.There was some really well done quest like Q/G and T/K as I said early but there was some that were so so.

[Calbeb]

I prefered Mass Effect 3 to Skyrim for a whole variety of reasons. I had a lot of problems with Skyrim, even though I did greatly enjoy it. My only problem with Mass Effect 3 is the ending and the awful journal.

[DayusMakhina]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Skyrim has a very high replayability value? It has absolutely none for me, granted I loved the game the first run through, but come the second one (which I did start, never finished) you've already seen the beauty of the scale of the world so it's not really "wow" anymore, it's more "eugh, time to travel this stupidly long pointless road to my next objective".

Granted, that makes it sound like I hate exploration, I don't, I love the freedom to go where I want, what I don't like is when it takes so long to go anywhere at all, just becomes a bore.

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Fast travel requires you to have seen the place where you want to travel to does it not? Thus when you start a new game you've still got to initially discover it all again. 

[pixelface]

i like mass effect better than skyrim, even if they are not comparable because they are very different games, although i think that the mass effect 3 ending sucked as much as the skyrim one did.

[Nadya2]

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

[daftPirate]

Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

See, its hard to take this seriously by itself. Is there a reason for all this, or is that ending hate talking? What did you expect ME3 to do that it didn't? The ending I can [somewhat] understand, but its hard to believe people calling out a game's downfall based on things like the journal, or that they didn't have as many interactive conversations.

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Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

Ouch.I think Me 3 is still better than DA 2.Which is not saying much.

[Teddie Sage]

This thread is a joke... Right?

[Calbeb]

Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

This is unnecesairly hostile.

[Darth Wolfenbarg]

2 years? Why? Bioware typically spends 3 years in development, it only needed one more to get to the level of polish we all wanted from it.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

DayusMakhina wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

DayusMakhina wrote...

Skyrim has a very high replayability value? It has absolutely none for me, granted I loved the game the first run through, but come the second one (which I did start, never finished) you've already seen the beauty of the scale of the world so it's not really "wow" anymore, it's more "eugh, time to travel this stupidly long pointless road to my next objective".

Granted, that makes it sound like I hate exploration, I don't, I love the freedom to go where I want, what I don't like is when it takes so long to go anywhere at all, just becomes a bore.

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Fast travel requires you to have seen the place where you want to travel to does it not? Thus when you start a new game you've still got to initially discover it all again. 

Yeah, I guess you got me there.  Did you try and up the difficulty? 

In any case theres probably a hardcore mod coming out soon so if you think the story isn't important you'll have a challenge.

As for now, theres tons of mods to change things up.  Are you even giving them a chance.

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daftPirate wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

See, its hard to take this seriously by itself. Is there a reason for all this, or is that ending hate talking? What did you expect ME3 to do that it didn't? The ending I can [somewhat] understand, but its hard to believe people calling out a game's downfall based on things like the journal, or that they didn't have as many interactive conversations.

Maybe because it isn't one thing but many issues found with the game.Why all this hate for those thaat disagree with you?You forgot to add in whiners,Disneyland endings and the rest of the talking points.

Modifié par Well, 03 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[Phategod1]

Honestly if we're talking story and character then ME3 has it beat in spades. Can you name one memorable character in all of skyrim? After 200 hours I know I can't.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

Phategod1 wrote...

Honestly if we're talking story and character then ME3 has it beat in spades. Can you name one memorable character in all of skyrim? After 200 hours I know I can't.

Considerring theres more than tripple the characters.......

Skyrim is a very egosetric game.  It's all about you.  They don't beat the names of ppl in your head.  Once at the beginning of a quest maybe again at the end.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 03 avril 2012 - 08:04 .

[Calbeb]

Well wrote...

Maybe because it isn't one thing but many issues found with the game.Why all this hate for those thaat disagree with you?You forgot to add in whiners,Disneyland endings and the rest of the talking points.

Yah I'm starting to hear this more and more this last week. Seems like the prevailing narrative on the BSN has gone from, great game until ending to a whole list of minor grievances that mean the game is awful.

I get that some people feel that way, but most people just wanted a better ending. That it's expanded now says more about how frustrated people feel that they haven't been appologized to and appeased yet than any major (other) failings of the game. People are ignoring the good stuff to fit into their Bioware is evil and EA is corrupting everything narrative.

[daftPirate]

Well wrote...

daftPirate wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

See, its hard to take this seriously by itself. Is there a reason for all this, or is that ending hate talking? What did you expect ME3 to do that it didn't? The ending I can [somewhat] understand, but its hard to believe people calling out a game's downfall based on things like the journal, or that they didn't have as many interactive conversations.

Maybe because it isn't one thing but many issues found with the game.Why all this hate for those thaat disagree with you?You forgot to add in whiners,Disneyland endings and the rest of the talking points.

I'm sorry if anything I said sounded hateful, not my intention. I'm not following what you mean about whiners or disneyland endings. Was that in reference to something I said?

In any debate, or discussion, though I like to invest myself in both sides of the issue, and I sincerely want to know what was ME3's downfall for people? On topic, I guess a comparison to Skyrim would suffice (I don't really care too much about the "apples oranges" thing), something that amounts to what did you expect ME3 to do differently? What are these paralyzing issues, and how do they compare, in this case, with issues the Skyrim had when it came out? That particular question I can't answer because I haven't played Skyrim, and most of what I've heard about it has been on these forums, so mostly negative in comparison, but quite likely biased as well.

[Well]

Phategod1 wrote...

Honestly if we're talking story and character then ME3 has it beat in spades. Can you name one memorable character in all of skyrim? After 200 hours I know I can't.

General Tullius.Same voice actor as Bailey I believe.

[Nadya2]

daftPirate wrote...

Nadya2 wrote...

Skyrim wins, but not just skyrim. Fallout, the witcher Drakensang and even Dragon age 2, Beat ME3 easy without a single blink.

they came up with a subpar and very mediocre joke to punch everyone of their fans on the face.

See, its hard to take this seriously by itself. Is there a reason for all this, or is that ending hate talking? What did you expect ME3 to do that it didn't? The ending I can [somewhat] understand, but its hard to believe people calling out a game's downfall based on things like the journal, or that they didn't have as many interactive conversations.

i could never end writing a list of things , that went wrong with ME3.    all that without including  the ending.