When did you become a Bioware fan and will you continue to be one if Bioware does not change the ending?
#101
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:26
#102
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:27
The above mentioned games have been truly memorable gaming experiences. So was ME3 right untill the end, which was just depressing and made me want to forget ME ever happened. DA2 was a complete disappointment - a mockery of DAO.
I might buy another Bioware game, eg. DA3, but only if I feel assured that it's given 'a seal of approval' by the community..
Modifié par bti79, 03 avril 2012 - 11:27 .
#103
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:31
Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...
Part 1- http://social.biowar...34/polls/31225/
Part 2- http://social.biowar...34/polls/31227/
Not answering the polls, because it's too black/white. If Bioware makes things right, then I'll come back cautiously. However, if they don't... I probably won't, either.
Fell in love with Bioware when I got Jade Empire. That was awesome. And I'd love to see a sequel for that done by the Real Bioware. Not the Darth Bioware that was corrupted by the Dark Lords of the Sith here.
I was one of the few that did like DA2 (thought the combat was better, story was good if dark, and the repetative levels were tolerable to me). But that being said, ME3 really killed the franchise (and possibly the company) to me. with... well, do I really need to say it?
#104
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:41
#105
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:42
ichik wrote...
April 6 will be the date when Bioware will turn from "OMG, i need to preorder Collector's Edition of their new game, and that hoodie, and that statues, and buy unreleased sountracks etc. etc." to "meh, i'll check it out, maybe half a year after release" or maybe it won't be, they still have a way to turn it around.
Pretty much, except I might wait a few years instead. I never even considered checking out Lair of the Shadow Broker or Overlord or Arrival on Youtube prior to purchase. But this DLC is something I'm willing to ruin the suspense over, and skip the purchase if it's just more of the same.
As for gaming history, Jade Empire got my interest, Mass Effect hooked me. It may just unhook me as well.
Bioware was given a chance pretty much no game designer is given - a second crack at the ending, and the ability to read players' minds about what worked and what didn't. If they've chosen not to take advantage of that opportunity, it's a loss for the fans, a loss for Bioware, and the loss of the wonderful process that allowed the enthusiastic passage of money between the two parties. There's simply no winners in that scenario.
Modifié par Voutsis1982, 03 avril 2012 - 11:43 .
#106
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:45
Bioware used to be a company I trusted and bought from withou
ever reading reviews and such. Because they always delivered.
The only thing Bioware delivers now is daggers in people's back.
#107
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:45
2. No
#108
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:47
#109
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:48
#110
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:49
DA2 was a bit of a disappointment for me, but I won't go into that. Still, I had the best expectations for ME3, and for the most part it delivered.
The ending, however, is like watching creative suicide. It's unexplainable (at least for now). And if it stays "as is", it signifies (to me) that the primary responsible people for this series have just lost all their love for their creation - for the characters, for the universe. And therefore "NO", I will no longer be a fan of BioWare.
#111
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:50
Vexia2070 wrote...
If there is a DA3 and if it is not multi-player and If it gets good fan reviews, that I might go for. But I will not per-order.The fan reviews will have to be really good, in fact I'll most likely wait until I see fan YouTube's regarding it. But right now, I just don't know. Though I am canceling my swtor account because I hated wow and that is all Swtor is after level 50. Worse actually Its an incompetent version of wow.
There are rumors that DA3 will have competitive multiplayer. And besides, devs looked through all the feedback and basically said "Yeah **** that, we're gonna make it like Skyrim. Did you see how well that sold?".
#112
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:51
And.... well, i know they wont change the ending, but im waiting to see exactly what they do with it, i never really wanted them to change it outright, i want closure.
And no, depending on what they make, me and BW will go our own way, ill maybe still get their games if they seem really good, but ill get them used so i dont directly support them, videogame industry just gives the companies too much power compared to the consumer.
#113
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:56
#114
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:59
In 2008 I played for a while Mass Effect 1, I was on my cousin computer and i must say, i didn't like it at all. The UI seemed awful, the combat boring and as I was just fooling around i didn't cared about the story. Nevertheless I always wanted to end it one day.
That day came in 2011, when I finally decided to play them seriously. So i bought 1 and 2 on a Steam offer and became addict to them. It took me a while to enjoy Mass Effect 1, but it was kind of like Indoctrination, little by little, without me noticing it, i learned to love and care about the story, the characters and the games. When the credits rolled with that awesome music i was in love :$.
I still think ME1 was the best one of the trilogy when it comes to plot development.
About the future....well....let's wait to PAX first.
#115
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 11:59
#116
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:01
Why bother with Skyrim. They could just make it like DA:O.Slidell505 wrote...
There are rumors that DA3 will have competitive multiplayer. And besides, devs looked through all the feedback and basically said "Yeah **** that, we're gonna make it like Skyrim. Did you see how well that sold?".
Modifié par bti79, 03 avril 2012 - 12:01 .
#117
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:07
If no change comes they´ve lost me forever. I don´t take kindly to slaps in my face.
#118
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:18
Anyway, DA2 (I pre-ordered the signature edition) was my first disappointment. I liked the idea behind it (the story has some impressive commentary on privilege and social inequality), but the execution was lacking imo. It wasn't just the recycled area's and the lack of exploration/new area's, but also the way the three acts were rather sloppily strung together and the abrupt ending. It was like reading a book with several chapters missing. I still enjoyed it, but I didn't buy any of the DLC because they didn't give us an expansion/DLC that dealt with the abrupt ending.
I pre-ordered the ME3 collectors edition because I didn't believe they could screw this up. Guess I was wrong. Not only is there very little exploration and only one hub world, but there's also way too much auto-dialogue and way too little consequences for past actions (Killed the Rachni queen? Saved the Rachni queen? Here, have some positive/negative EMS!). The endings, however, ruined my faith in BioWare. I'm not pre-ordering from them again. Everything else I can ascribe to rushed development and such, but the endings have no such excuse. They go against everything I love about the ME games and I find the idea behind them (lots of speculation from everyone) downright insulting. I have read a lot of fascinating works of literature that are all about speculation, but that is not what ME is about and that is not what I was promised.
So yeah, I won't be a BioWare fan any more if they don't deal with these endings. You don't put a Space Odyssey ending on a 100+ hour space epic trilogy that's all about choice and consequences and then defend it in the name of artistic integrity. That's not good art, that's just stupid.
#119
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:25
Modifié par Lmaoboat, 03 avril 2012 - 12:27 .
#120
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:31
#121
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:34
I think if the ME3 ending isn't fixed, I'll write off Bioware as a corrupted subsidiary of EA, and move on to other developers. It'll be sad, since Bioware's long been my favorite, and I'll admit that I'll give DA III a glance, but I don't know if I'll buy it. The ME3 ending was that bad, and after DAII, I since bad decisions have become commonplace for the Bioware management structure. It's just a shame. I loved DAO, ME1, and ME2 like no other games, but I just don't know about Bioware anymore...
#122
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:37
I will not be a fan anymore if they don't fix it. The ending is unacceptable.
See, I could tolerate this if they released the tools for ME3, so we could craft our own ending. But they didn't do such.
#123
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:39
#124
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:41
If the endings aren't fixed completely. Clarification isn't sufficient. I want a proper fix to the endings, as in have the redone completely. The i will simply cease to be fan completely. I will never again trust Bioware. Too much emotional attachment in this game series for me to trust them after such a horrible ending. The ride was great. the ending destroyed everything that the ride had.
Modifié par Kitedtk, 03 avril 2012 - 12:42 .
#125
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:44
Started with NWN1, and I'll simply wait and see. I can't say I'll cut Bioware out forever if they suddenly make an awesome Dragon Age 3 or whatever. Also, Mass Effect 3 was for the most part worth it's money (much more than Dragon Age 2), at least I was entertained for quite a few days.
Also, even though I really support the demand for new endings, there are other things that bother me much more - you can probably blame EA for most of it.





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