When did you become a Bioware fan and will you continue to be one if Bioware does not change the ending?
#126
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:44
I can't continue to be a fan if they don't fix the ending. The ending is broke. It went for the cheapest way out with a god child scenario and no conclusion. It was lazy with no passion and I can't support that Bioware anymore.
And you know what, why not a happy ending? What's wrong with wanting to see a character you've invested so much emotionally into be happy. A lot of writers in all medium think the happy ending is too cliche but all these bittersweet endings or sad endings are much more prominent now and have become the cliche.
#127
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:45
#128
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:45
#129
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:49
As it is now...for me, BW crossed a line with the endings in ME3; the line between the quality and the high standards they had implemented in their previous games and unadulturated corporate gaming development, where quality no longer matters, but putting a product on the shelves is the only criterion!
This is not to say ME3 is a bad game; there are parts where the quality is there, where you can see the attention and care and the fact those who made the game actually cared about it and their characters; but there are a lot of moments where you can see things were done lazily, haughtily, quality sacrificed, probably on the altar of meeting deadlines or perhaps budget or both: the endings themselves, that ruin an otherwise perfectly good game, the way some of the LIs are treated-mistreated, really-the lack of dialogues and choices in many moments of the game!
Not sure if I'll remain a fan unless the endings and the flaws in ME3 are addressed properly, in the elegant, qualitative way BW has accustomed their fans to; I'll always cherish the lovely games they have given me and I will replay them, in time, but new products? If they follow this path they started in ME3, I don't think so. I became a fan of BW's inventive,intelligent action/adventure/RPGs.
#130
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 12:52
VaddixBell wrote...
I've been a fan since KOTOR. Amazing game and loved Bioware since I played it.
I can't continue to be a fan if they don't fix the ending. The ending is broke. It went for the cheapest way out with a god child scenario and no conclusion. It was lazy with no passion and I can't support that Bioware anymore.
And you know what, why not a happy ending? What's wrong with wanting to see a character you've invested so much emotionally into be happy. A lot of writers in all medium think the happy ending is too cliche but all these bittersweet endings or sad endings are much more prominent now and have become the cliche.
I feel the same way, Kotor is the bench mark for plot twists for me. I just feel cheated by ME3 and bioware.
#131
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 01:47
KOTOR got me into rpgs, I've been a fanboy since that awesome plot twist in the middle. Since then my relationship to them has essentially been "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, YOU LOVELY PEOPLE!". I've bought and enjoyed all their games and DLC since then, I'm one of the few who really liked DA2 and even enjoyed it's rather inessential DLC. There have been no games that I've loved and become so emotionally involved with as much as Mass Effect. I was loving ME3 until those final 10 minutes.
I despise that ending on so many levels, it almost felt like a personal insult. But I fear it can't be fixed and I suspect they had no idea how to end it. I'd settle at this stage for an option just to skip the last 10 minutes and go straight to the end credits and let my my mind fill in the rest.
If there is nothing they can do about it, then my feelings towards BioWare and their games would be apathy and indifference rather than hostility. If a company is not making products I want to buy then I'd just get them from a competitor who is. I might still buy BioWare stuff but they'd just be another games company to me.
#132
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 02:20
#133
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 03:08
However, in defence of the game, ME3 was reasonably good (not nearly so much so as ME2, but still high quality) with some really good moments. But the ending drags down an otherwise the game immensely.
It's depressing because even in just this game (not even the series as a whole) it's such excellent quality up until those last few minutes that the effect is incredibly jarring.
#134
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 03:11
After this...if the ending continues to yell "sequel!!!" then it'll probably be quits.
Modifié par The Interloper, 03 avril 2012 - 03:11 .
#135
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 07:10
Now I don't know, after DA II I'm starting to evaluate more what they do, instead of blindly buying.
#136
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 07:57
#137
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 07:58
Edje Edgar wrote...
To be fair, they allready died a bit for me with DA2. ME3 was pretty much their final chance to show they hadn't been corrupted by EA completely.
Their journey towards the Dark Side is now complete
i totally agree with this statement.
#138
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:00
#139
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:01
As to how this is handled. I've taken a wait and see approach. I will say this unless they fix the ending I will not be purchasing any ME3 dlc. As to future titles i'm not sure, ill have to see how this plays out.
#140
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:02
#141
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:05
And yes, I will stay a big fan of Bioware's work. They haven't managed to disappoint me. Hell, I can even live with ME3's ending and did several playthroughs on DA2, something which is impossible if you ask certain people here.
#142
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:06
#143
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:09
#144
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:11
#145
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:11
I won't buy ME3-DLC with the current Endings. And if ME4 is set in the time before or during the Reaper War i won't buy that either.
Not sure about DA3, still have some hope left for that. No Pre-order though.
#146
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:17
DA2 let me down a little, but more because it was so buggy and repetitive with the backgrounds, I didn't mind the different narration or darker tone. The DLC and patched improved that greatly. ME3 was so awesome until the ending broke my heart completely and this time I'm not sure if it is an issue DLC can fix...
Time will tell. :/
#147
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:18
If the ME3 ending is the shape of things to come, they can keep their 'artistic integrity' and I'll keep my cash.
#148
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:22
exterminator wrote...
I like my ending ... period
The ending could have been better. However, I still really enjoyed the rest of the game. Bioware remains my favorite developer by far.
#149
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:24
...Then Dragon Age II came out. I was a huge fan of DA:O and I still believe that DA2 was a massive disappointment. Now Bioware has also managed to completely kill the Mass Effect universe for me.
Needless to say, I'm not going to blindly buy their products anymore. At best, I'm going to wait until fan reviews, and even then, I'll probably just buy their games used. That way, they didn't make any money off of me when I end up disappointed.
#150
Posté 03 avril 2012 - 08:25





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