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Do you intend to include the PS3 users or are we yet again left in the dark, wondering, posting threads ...?

Can we get some sort of communication in relation to the whole PS3 issue of being able to participate?

:?

Thanks.

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I'm pretty sure Bioware "intends" to include them. From everything I've read on the forums here it seems to lie more in Sony's hands.

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Yes - Sony needs to upgrade it´s network with reporting functions. Else it can´t detect wether or not the OP was a success. Not Bioware at fault here.

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Sony won't allow them for some reason.

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Yes, i've heard that all before, it's the vicious circle of Bioware vs Sony and I have also posted this on the Sony Support forums: http://community.eu....s/td-p/15627029

There have been several posts already disputing Bioware's claims of this being a Sony issue and vice versa.

Instead of assumptions from forums users I would appreciate an answer from Bioware that is represented on these forums by Moderators and Communications Manager.

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Arcadian Legend wrote...

Sony won't allow them for some reason.


Is it about allowing or is it about technical limitations in how PSN works and reports information?

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hmmm..maybe sony should ask those guys who hacked their network several months ago for advice :) ?

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brummbrumm wrote...

hmmm..maybe sony should ask those guys who hacked their network several months ago for advice :) ?

This is why ps3 can't have nice things

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You know what, why bother.
When people complain about a game they paid good money for you get stupid responses.
When you ask for a simple answer from Bioware in a nice way, you get stupid answers.

Well done folks, this is exactly why buggy / unfinished games are released, they get away with it.

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Ew_Tux wrote...

You know what, why bother.
When people complain about a game they paid good money for you get stupid responses.
When you ask for a simple answer from Bioware in a nice way, you get stupid answers.

Well done folks, this is exactly why buggy / unfinished games are released, they get away with it.

Your asking them for answers on something that's not really in their control. They have stated thy would love to include ps3 in the events but due to issues with Sony they can't. Why don't you understand about that?

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Question that I honestly don't know the answer to.

Are there any games currently on PSN that allow for events that track specific data tied to individual accounts?

The allegation is that either the tech specs or privacy policies prohibit limited time info along the lines of "Bob killed 3 Brutes, but has not completed an extraction on silver or better with reapers."

Is there a counterexample?

I specify limited time, because perhaps, if the issue is privacy, a list in advance of information gets ok'd and approved along with certification of the game itself (such as the N7 totals), but for the weekly events there wasn't a list of specifics far enough in advance or something.

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Sony reallly needs to sort things out in regards to PSN. It's dumb how all these PS3 players can't have access to these events due to tech limitations.

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KroganSmash wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...
Why don't you understand about that?


"Technical Limitations"

That is what! The above does not mean anything without any background and when taken to Sony they will simply say that they are not aware of any events.

Realise that i bought this game from EA/Bioware, not Sony ... I am looking for support from the publisher / developer of the game. If that support in anyway indicates that the issue is on Sony's end with something to back it up, I will gladly take it to Sony. However, as of yet Bioware has kept quiet and just stated "Technical Isues", "Technical Limitations" where as several users of this forums have already indicated that Bioware is fully capable of tracking our data as per the sites content.

Modifié par Ew_Tux, 03 avril 2012 - 09:25 .


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KroganSmash wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...

You know what, why bother.
When people complain about a game they paid good money for you get stupid responses.
When you ask for a simple answer from Bioware in a nice way, you get stupid answers.

Well done folks, this is exactly why buggy / unfinished games are released, they get away with it.

Your asking them for answers on something that's not really in their control. They have stated thy would love to include ps3 in the events but due to issues with Sony they can't. Why don't you understand about that?


This.  I see these whine threads waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too @#$%ing much.

There is your answer.  Now please stop spamming the forums.

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Huttj509 wrote...

Question that I honestly don't know the answer to.

Are there any games currently on PSN that allow for events that track specific data tied to individual accounts?

The allegation is that either the tech specs or privacy policies prohibit limited time info along the lines of "Bob killed 3 Brutes, but has not completed an extraction on silver or better with reapers."

Is there a counterexample?

I specify limited time, because perhaps, if the issue is privacy, a list in advance of information gets ok'd and approved along with certification of the game itself (such as the N7 totals), but for the weekly events there wasn't a list of specifics far enough in advance or something.


Yes, look at both BF3 and MW2/3 for example, or even Uncharted 2 / 3 which all run events and collect full data on user level.

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I made this same thread asking about Raptor a week and a half in advance. I even went out of my way in the OP to point out I didn't care who was at fault, I just wanted to know if I should hold off on promoting.

I was immediately accused of being a Bioware bashing Sony fanboy.

I'm sorry, Ew, but I can't be part of any discussions about the PS3 exclusion issue any more. I literally said "IDGAF about Sony" and they continued to call me a Sony fanboy. I can not deal with that stupidity again.

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anyone here plan on getting a ps4?

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Distilled Poison wrote...

I made this same thread asking about Raptor a week and a half in advance. I even went out of my way in the OP to point out I didn't care who was at fault, I just wanted to know if I should hold off on promoting.

I was immediately accused of being a Bioware bashing Sony fanboy.

I'm sorry, Ew, but I can't be part of any discussions about the PS3 exclusion issue any more. I literally said "IDGAF about Sony" and they continued to call me a Sony fanboy. I can not deal with that stupidity again.

umm this has nothing to do with being a "fanboy" or bashing Sony people it's just the truth that Sony is having difficulties with these so called events. Why must everything seem like Sony bashing? It's not a contest of which distributor is better its just facts.

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Ew_Tux wrote...

Huttj509 wrote...

Question that I honestly don't know the answer to.

Are there any games currently on PSN that allow for events that track specific data tied to individual accounts?

The allegation is that either the tech specs or privacy policies prohibit limited time info along the lines of "Bob killed 3 Brutes, but has not completed an extraction on silver or better with reapers."

Is there a counterexample?

I specify limited time, because perhaps, if the issue is privacy, a list in advance of information gets ok'd and approved along with certification of the game itself (such as the N7 totals), but for the weekly events there wasn't a list of specifics far enough in advance or something.


Yes, look at both BF3 and MW2/3 for example, or even Uncharted 2 / 3 which all run events and collect full data on user level.


I do not have direct experience with those games, and have been unable to google up any multiplayer event info.  Can you be more specific about what their events have involved?

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@KroganSmash- I don't think you understood my post.

By the way, if you'd been in either of my previous PS3 exclusion threads, you'd see that's not true.

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KroganSmash wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

I made this same thread asking about Raptor a week and a half in advance. I even went out of my way in the OP to point out I didn't care who was at fault, I just wanted to know if I should hold off on promoting.

I was immediately accused of being a Bioware bashing Sony fanboy.

I'm sorry, Ew, but I can't be part of any discussions about the PS3 exclusion issue any more. I literally said "IDGAF about Sony" and they continued to call me a Sony fanboy. I can not deal with that stupidity again.

umm this has nothing to do with being a "fanboy" or bashing Sony people it's just the truth that Sony is having difficulties with these so called events. Why must everything seem like Sony bashing? It's not a contest of which distributor is better its just facts.


@KroganSmash, please give the me details that indicate that this is a Sony/PSN issue other than the words "Technical Issues/ Limitations", it seem you forgot to put on your Bioware tag ....

Personally i cannot clearly state that this is either a Bioware or Sony issue, what is do clearly know is that i did not buy this game from Sony, i bought this from EA which published it for one of their developers Bioware who are in this case are claiming there are Technical issues. I am now asking that same developer, what are these Technical issues and if they indeed point out to be on Sony's side i will take my argument to them, which btw, I already have done as well.

And until that same developer, Bioware, provides some sort of communications I and probably many other PS3 Gamers will come to these forums each time an event is planned / launched to ask the same question again and again.

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Huttj509 wrote...

Ew_Tux wrote...

Huttj509 wrote...

Question that I honestly don't know the answer to.

Are there any games currently on PSN that allow for events that track specific data tied to individual accounts?

The allegation is that either the tech specs or privacy policies prohibit limited time info along the lines of "Bob killed 3 Brutes, but has not completed an extraction on silver or better with reapers."

Is there a counterexample?

I specify limited time, because perhaps, if the issue is privacy, a list in advance of information gets ok'd and approved along with certification of the game itself (such as the N7 totals), but for the weekly events there wasn't a list of specifics far enough in advance or something.


Yes, look at both BF3 and MW2/3 for example, or even Uncharted 2 / 3 which all run events and collect full data on user level.


I do not have direct experience with those games, and have been unable to google up any multiplayer event info.  Can you be more specific about what their events have involved?


Extra content, increased leveling up for participating users. Also full scaled realtime data tracking of games, something which Bioware claims is not possible.

In terms of extra content, Uncharted has on several occassions held events where users would unlock new skins which normally would only be available through massive grinding or alternatively bought on the store. I fully realise Uncharted is a exclusive, however it just goes to show it is possible.

Modifié par Ew_Tux, 03 avril 2012 - 09:43 .


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@Hutt- Here's a bit of info:

1- PS3 players have the same "Upload Feedback" option that 360 & PC do.
2- It's enabled by default.
3- We can see that it works by the fact that our stats are being tracked on this very sight. They have everything from Galact Readiness to our N7 to our number of promotions, to even our friendlist. Their client side tracking is just fine, and so is their server sided.
4- They even track our Trophy list, which is Sony sided to prevent faking achievements.

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Well if you read the details of the event it always addresses the problem with ps3. I wish I could still see the one for operation raptor because it detailed it quite nicely on how they were working things out with Sony to make events available to ps3 users. Not trying to go against you or attack you just stating what I know.