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[Sepharih]

 

Pathero wrote...

Need confirmation from another source.

(I'm not being a pillock, but we've seen lots of trolling going on. I see another source with the same file names I'll up my belief levels)

 
I just too a look.  materials and tetures are definately named with the dream prefix.

Repossessor wrote...

Grasich wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

It could be just reuse of assets dont think too much of it

Normally you might be correct, but these are listed as "dream" and unless I'm totally mistaken, there are no broad-leaf trees in the dream sequences.

As a programmer/designer myself, you don't give something a very specific name like "dream" without a purpose, unless you're a very very bad programmer.

They're also listed as "bioA_end003_planet" so that discounts them from the dream-sequences, too.  Unless they are a re-used asset, but why would they add them twice? Is there any other mention of the foliage assets in other files?

Haven't looked at the other files, but just a quick overview of game development, usually these things are broken into packages or packets.  So you'll find the actual textures and files from burnt trees in the dream sequences in "bioa_end_002" or whatever it's called as well when harbinger blows you up.  Assets get loaded like this so that you can load them into memory faster and avoid huge loading cutscenes.

[Repossessor]

Captain Arty wrote...

Sepharih wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Ser Issac wrote...

Giskler wrote...

This is also very interesting.. found in End003:

i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png

I'm trying to keep my head from exploding after looking at that picture. Dream foliage? And it's clearly the plants used on the final jungle planet the Normandy crashes on. IT theory just got a boost.

This is the single greatest find Indoc Theory has going for it. Someone should present it to the "Was the ending a Hallucination" thread.

I love indoctrination interpretation and it's how I choose to view the endings....but if this is the best piece of "evidence" the theory has....that says a lot.

Woah... Dream Foliage?...  Is this used anywhere else in the game, like in the dreams with the kid.

Yes, it is in the kid dreams.

Sepharih wrote...
Haven't looked at the other files, but just a
quick overview of game development, usually these things are broken
into packages or packets.  So you'll find the actual textures and files
from burnt trees in the dream sequences in "bioa_end_002" or whatever
it's called as well when harbinger blows you up.  Assets get loaded like
this so that you can load them into memory faster and avoid huge
loading cutscenes.

That explains it then, cheers.

Modifié par Repossessor, 03 avril 2012 - 06:07 .

[Shepard Wins]

tobito113 wrote...

It could be just reuse of assets dont think too much of it

Well aren't you a bigger buzz kill than Buzz Killington.

Thumba wrote...


Dig on OP! But not to deep, we don't want this thread closed (or you banned for that matter)!

You made me think of:

"Digging in the Dirt
To find the places we got hurt
To open up the places I got hurt"

(Where's Taboo-XX, he'll get this )

[Torxen]

The PAX East Conference couldn't come faster. Must obtain certainty....

[Zork90]

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

[Sepharih]

Repossessor wrote...

Yes, it is in the kid dreams.

Wait, is it?  The burnt plants and trees are in their, but is this tropical stuff in there as well?  I definately don't remember it.  Can someone name me the package for the dream sequence so I don't have to rummage through it?  I'll check.

Modifié par Sepharih, 03 avril 2012 - 06:10 .

[Repossessor]

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

[MundoFine]

www.youtube.com/watch

Here's a video of the first dream sequence. Do these look like the same plants? I'm not sure.

Modifié par MundoFine, 03 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[Bfler]

Grasich wrote...

Bfler wrote...

In the BioA_End003_Planet.pcc (the jungle planet) is also a cubemap with an industrial city. Looks a bit like a futuristic NY.

pic?

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/citylm.png/

Modifié par Bfler, 03 avril 2012 - 06:14 .

[mr.surv]

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Nope.

I think I saw different files in dream sequence.

Wait a sec. I'll check it.

[Zork90]

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Say woot!? Are you sure? I did not see any green leaves in the dreams with the kid. Why would that foliage be laying around together with the other dream stuff then?
Hmm

[Repossessor]

mr.surv wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Nope.

I think I saw different files in dream sequence.

Wait a sec. I'll check it.

There should be Dream_FoliageMove_MM, Dream_Foliage_MAT_INST_01, Dream_Plant03,
Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff, DreamTree01_DiffDreamTree01_Diff,
DreamTree01_NormDreamTree01_Diff.

Zork90 wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That
just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green
jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with
a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Say
woot!? Are you sure? I did not see any green leaves in the dreams with
the kid. Why would that foliage be laying around together with the other
dream stuff then?
Hmm

The dream sequences are post-processed and colour-graded -- that's why they don't look green.

Modifié par Repossessor, 03 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[MundoFine]

Bfler wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Bfler wrote...

In the BioA_End003_Planet.pcc (the jungle planet) is also a cubemap with an industrial city. Looks a bit like a futuristic NY.

pic?

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/citylm.png/

THIS though! Why would that be there?

[Repossessor]

I suspect these same trees and foliage are used in the beginning of the game also, when the kid is playing with the model on the rooftop.

[mr.surv]

http://imageshack.us.../36/legitd.jpg/imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/legitd.jpg/

Modifié par mr.surv, 03 avril 2012 - 06:18 .

[Zork90]

Repossessor wrote...

The dream sequences are post-processed and colour-graded -- that's why they don't look green.

Okay! 

Well, we can always hope! Back to square 1 again I suppose. lol

Need to watch this to cheer me up. Lmao

Modifié par Zork90, 03 avril 2012 - 06:19 .

[kostr44aw]

MundoFine wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Grasich wrote...

Bfler wrote...

In the BioA_End003_Planet.pcc (the jungle planet) is also a cubemap with an industrial city. Looks a bit like a futuristic NY.

pic?

imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/citylm.png/

THIS though! Why would that be there?

 
Devs being negligent?

Modifié par kostr44aw, 03 avril 2012 - 06:19 .

[Giskler]

The kids model in the final nightmare sequence is also called guardian:

i.imgur.com/x70ce.png

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

mr.surv wrote...

http://imageshack.us.../36/legitd.jpg/imageshack.us/photo/my-images/36/legitd.jpg/

its like the architecture on Thessia, but is the Earth ?

[Aurvant]

Repossessor wrote...

mr.surv wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Nope.

I think I saw different files in dream sequence.

Wait a sec. I'll check it.

There should be Dream_FoliageMove_MM, Dream_Foliage_MAT_INST_01, Dream_Plant03,
Dream_FoliageSheet_Diff, DreamTree01_DiffDreamTree01_Diff,
DreamTree01_NormDreamTree01_Diff.

Zork90 wrote...

Repossessor wrote...

Zork90 wrote...

WOW, This is the best thread in a long time!!!

That
just made my day! There is no way in hell they would name those green
jungleplanet plantmodels DREAM *** if not they had something to do with
a dream. Great findings!!!

Indoc Theory just got a massive boost!

But those files are used in the actual dreams with the kid, too -- so it proves nothing (unfortunately).

Say
woot!? Are you sure? I did not see any green leaves in the dreams with
the kid. Why would that foliage be laying around together with the other
dream stuff then?
Hmm

The dream sequences are post-processed and colour-graded -- that's why they don't look green.

These files were found in package BioA_End003_Planet.pcc

Also, the sequences are post-processed and colour-graded? I'm amazed you know that for certain.

[Little Princess Peach]

I have a strong feeling that all the 'un used content' like the future child will be put up in some rediculos dlc

[Repossessor]

Should prob check the IT thread, as these were all discovered and debated on there about two weeks ago anyhow.

[xZBx]

I want mp details Like if we can play with a geth..

[Sepharih]

Repossessor wrote...
The dream sequences are post-processed and colour-graded -- that's why they don't look green.

Argh....I hate pushing this because I know how badly we're all grasping at emergency induction ports with this...but are you sure?  Seriously...does anybody know the name of the  .pcc file for the dream sequences.  I'm actually supposed to be working at my desk right now and don't have the time to read through all the packages....anybody see one that stands out?