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#76
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bryan12112 wrote...

I'm going to wait and see how this plays out before I decide on anything. If they continue to disappoint me, I move on. No big deal.


As you say.  I will wait till PAX.

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[quote]Warp92 wrote...

 I've got a plan in motion

1.Pax goes bad

2. Stop buying their games. Simple as that. It's not worth my time or effort to do anything more.[/quote]

3. Walk away.. forever. I know how to hold a grudge.

4. Give up on Bioware and set myself up for Diablo 3... 


[/quote]

What if BW buys out Diablo 3?

Paradox? :wizard:

And do not BS me by saying "if BW buys D3 I will not play it" cos I do not beleive that :P

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YOu know what's fun? Knee jerk reactions before anything actually happens.

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Zenoctilles wrote...

What makes anyone confident that BioWare will do more than sell an interactive comic book that tries to "explain" the crappy the ending we all got? It is quite clear that EA has already made its bank and that no one cares anymore. It's been nearly a month since the game's release. The media doesn't give any airtime to the Retake movement anymore. It's dead, and folks like me have moved on. From Mass Effect. From BioWare in general. 

The upcoming PAX East conference will simply be another bit of PR doublespeak intended to soothe those who aren't intelligent enough to parse through the words. 

There isn't going to be a new ending. Just a "clarified" one. 

Give it up, comrades. It's time to seek something new to obsess over. 

Cheese stake sandhwiches are all the rage in vertual games that have sexy biotic men :?

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apieros wrote...

Aleru wrote...
No matter what you choose, there were only two endings. Anyone complained back then? Im sure i didnt. 

I'll assume you're sincere, and have really ignored or just missed the specific complaints of the aggrieved. As a result, you don't know that the problem isn't just that there are only 3 endings:

1.) Were promised 16 different endings, not 3.
2.) Were specifically promised "not A, B, C" endings.
3.) Were promised wildly disparate endings, which were closely related to our choices over the whole series.

What we we promised wasn't what we got. Even you say that.

I hope that's clearer now. If it isn't, there are hundreds of threads detailing the broken promises, exactly and specifically pointing out what Bioware said would be there, but wasn't.

P.S.:

4. The endings were ****. On every single possible level it is possible for them to be ****. IMHO, obviously.


Well... i can assure you that i was sincere. I never heard any news regarding the endigns of me3... i mean, the promises. 
But, maybe we have to see what means to bioware "16 endings".  The only bioware game that have a lot of endigns s Dragon Age Origins (the ones i played). But they all resume to kill archedemon and die, let your friend kill archdemon or kill archdemon and survive. But they give a lot of closure about every warden and every companion.
I havent heard about those promises, so its difficult for me to judge... but again, the endings of me3 are the classic endings of bioware. 
Or perhaps the 16 different endings are the flashbacks that shepards have...  
Corporations are not trust worthy.

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[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Warp92 wrote...

 I've got a plan in motion

1.Pax goes bad

2. Stop buying their games. Simple as that. It's not worth my time or effort to do anything more.[/quote]

3. Walk away.. forever. I know how to hold a grudge.

4. Give up on Bioware and set myself up for Diablo 3... 


[/quote]

What if BW buys out Diablo 3?

Paradox? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

And do not BS me by saying "if BW buys D3 I will not play it" cos I do not beleive that [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

[/quote] 

I doubt blizzard would ever sell such a sucessful franchise ;)

Edit: what the hell is going on with the quotations!?

Modifié par Warp92, 03 avril 2012 - 04:00 .


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[quote]Warp92 wrote...

[quote]MadRabbit999 wrote...

[quote]Warp92 wrote...

I've got a plan in motion

1.Pax goes bad

2. Stop buying their games. Simple as that. It's not worth my time or effort to do anything more.[/quote]

3. Walk away.. forever. I know how to hold a grudge.

4. Give up on Bioware and set myself up for Diablo 3... 
[/quote]

What if BW buys out Diablo 3?

Paradox? :wizard:   And do not BS me by saying "if BW buys D3 I will not play it" cos I do not beleive that :P   [/quote]


I doubt blizzard would ever sell such a sucessful franchise ;)

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Seriously wait until D3 is over before you praise it... blizzard has done some horrendous things to their franchise of late.

Beside are we forgetting the nerd rage about Diablo looks, and some aspect of the gameplay? Which made some people say like you "I am done with Blizzard games" ....y.eah right... most of the peopel who say that, still buys the collector edition.. so do not fool yourself, you will stil lbuy a new ME if it comes out :P

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[quote]Warp92 wrote...

 I've got a plan in motion

1.Pax goes bad

2. Stop buying their games. Simple as that. It's not worth my time or effort to do anything more.[/quote]

3. Walk away.. forever. I know how to hold a grudge.

4. Give up on Bioware and set myself up for Diablo 3... 


[/quote]

same here. When PAX goes bad. I will never ever see something Mass Effect related on my shopping list (Book or Modellship)


And Diablo is nearly here...

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Um I am so very confused what the hell is going on with the quotations..

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I have an idea. It's a pretty revolutionary idea, so let me explain.

Next time Bioware releases a game DON'T BUY IT ON THE FIRST DAY. But also, DON'T SWEAR A BLOOD OATH THAT YOU'LL NEVER BUY IT.

Now, I know this sounds crazy and self-contradictory, but hear me out. In lieu of the two options above, find some reviewers and friends you trust, wait a few weeks, and FIND OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE GAME.

Then, if people you trust really like the game, BUY IT. If they're sort of on the fence, WAIT AND BUY IT USED. And if they hated it, DON'T BUY IT.

The key to this plan is understanding that it's not all or nothing. Bioware isn't your unfaithful spouse. You don't have to love them or hate them unconditionally. It's not divorce or stick it out for life. Instead, you can PICK WHICH GAMES YOU WANT TO BUY.

In fact, this "pick what you want to buy" method --crazy as it sounds-- is how markets all over the world figure out what goods to produce. I have a hunch it could work for videogames, too. And as an added bonus, we all can avoid cutting ourselves and rending our garments when a game developer produces something we don't like.

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H. Birdman wrote...

I have an idea. It's a pretty revolutionary idea, so let me explain.

Next time Bioware releases a game DON'T BUY IT ON THE FIRST DAY. But also, DON'T SWEAR A BLOOD OATH THAT YOU'LL NEVER BUY IT.

Now, I know this sounds crazy and self-contradictory, but hear me out. In lieu of the two options above, find some reviewers and friends you trust, wait a few weeks, and FIND OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE GAME.

Then, if people you trust really like the game, BUY IT. If they're sort of on the fence, WAIT AND BUY IT USED. And if they hated it, DON'T BUY IT.

The key to this plan is understanding that it's not all or nothing. Bioware isn't your unfaithful spouse. You don't have to love them or hate them unconditionally. It's not divorce or stick it out for life. Instead, you can PICK WHICH GAMES YOU WANT TO BUY.

In fact, this "pick what you want to buy" method --crazy as it sounds-- is how markets all over the world figure out what goods to produce. I have a hunch it could work for videogames, too. And as an added bonus, we all can avoid cutting ourselves and rending our garments when a game developer produces something we don't like.


Given that we may soon see companies find ways to lock out used games I dont see it really working.

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Thanks for starting a thread, could have just left, would have been the same outcome.

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ME is dead and so is the old BW. The new BW husk is just not the same.

I'm saddened, but it's been a good run - from Baldur to KOTOR to DA:O.

DA2 - fail.
TOR - meh.
ME3 - 5 mins of fail, destroyed everything.

I expect too much from BW (to match older titles in quality). Just move on to other games/companies, there are people who are doing what BW used to do.

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H. Birdman

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Not sure if serious.

If serious: Then don't buy it, or wait for a price break for a new copy.

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Arokel wrote...

H. Birdman wrote...

I have an idea. It's a pretty revolutionary idea, so let me explain.

Next time Bioware releases a game DON'T BUY IT ON THE FIRST DAY. But also, DON'T SWEAR A BLOOD OATH THAT YOU'LL NEVER BUY IT.

Now, I know this sounds crazy and self-contradictory, but hear me out. In lieu of the two options above, find some reviewers and friends you trust, wait a few weeks, and FIND OUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE GAME.

Then, if people you trust really like the game, BUY IT. If they're sort of on the fence, WAIT AND BUY IT USED. And if they hated it, DON'T BUY IT.

The key to this plan is understanding that it's not all or nothing. Bioware isn't your unfaithful spouse. You don't have to love them or hate them unconditionally. It's not divorce or stick it out for life. Instead, you can PICK WHICH GAMES YOU WANT TO BUY.

In fact, this "pick what you want to buy" method --crazy as it sounds-- is how markets all over the world figure out what goods to produce. I have a hunch it could work for videogames, too. And as an added bonus, we all can avoid cutting ourselves and rending our garments when a game developer produces something we don't like.


Given that we may soon see companies find ways to lock out used games I dont see it really working.


Yeah, curbing used games and locking them to a single account will destory this process.  Good and bad move for the industry, it may result in lower sales overall, a lot of  people rely on selling games to help fund their new game purchase. 

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Aleru wrote...

Well... i can assure you that i was sincere. I never heard any news regarding the endigns of me3... i mean, the promises. 

That's cool. If you're interested, here's some info on that:

A thread listing some of the promises. Skip the beginning of the post, go to "Pre-Gold":

http://social.biowar...x/10473356&lf=8

A thread about Game Informer's ME3 issue, where they have specific quotes from Casey Hudson and others relating to what is in the game:

http://social.biowar.../index/10927975

I don't expect you to change your mind, I don't need you to. I just thought you deserved a polite response describing the objections of the "retakers", what it is that they (we) were actually mad about.

Cheers!

Modifié par apieros, 03 avril 2012 - 04:09 .


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Ill give them a chance to redeem themselves first. If they screw that up then i will move on.

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Seriously?

The market can't work because I might not be able to buy a product used?

You can't say, "Well, the reviewer I trust most wasn't thrilled, so I guess I won't buy it, or at least I'll wait until it's $20 new at Best Buy"?

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MA3 endings do disappoint me but I'll wait and see what happens.

Whatever happens, I'll probably buy some future games, but I doubt if I pre-order anything from now on. If I had known what the endings would be like I would have stopped at ME2. I trusted them enough to pre-order it. I should have listened to the rumbles and waited.

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I'm certainly not giving up on Bioware because 10 minutes of more than 150 hours of entertainment disappointed me. I actually find this mentality to be rather disturbing.

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For me, the decision is easy: At April 10th, the pre-order for Guild Wars 2 starts.
Probably soon, the game will be released and pay-services like more slots in the ingame-storage will be aviable.
The gaming-industry is a large market with a lot of opportunities to have fun in my free time.
Arenanet didn't disappoint me so far, they pretty much have a history of surpassing my expectations.

ME3 as it is now, offers me no reason to spend any more money on it.
If BioWare comes up with something in a reasonable timespan, this might change.

Modifié par TekFanX, 03 avril 2012 - 04:20 .


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point blank i have, like alot of people i know, cut off my swtor account and wont be giving bioware any of my money again until they do something, alot of people are choosing to go out of their way and pirate bioware stuff rather then give them 1 dime because of the uproar over the me3 endings. It is not something that will get better over time it will get worse, its happened before like when EA ate Origin (the game company) or with the companies Red Orb, and Trilobyte. let down your fans 1 time and its all you need to lose it all.

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Good on you OP. You've got exactly the right attitude. Don't expect anything it's a sure route to disappointment.

Then when you pick up the next Bioware game (because I know you will... you will resist at first but not for long) it can only come as a happy surprise for you.

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ehm, nope!

Good luck on your future endeavours.

:)

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If they don't do anything at PAX east then the hell with em.