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[CELL55]

I think it's unlikely, given how it's not in the base game. They would just have to introduce her to people who didn't watch the web show or bought the DLC. Added to the fact that Felicia Day may not even have time for it, I think Tallis will be relegated to a cameo role if she even ends up in the game.

[Amycus89]

I hope we get completely new characters, except maybe cassandra. After the return of merril, isabella, and specifically Anders, I'm a bit afraid of what changes Bioware would make to characters I already have grown fond of in the other games.

Also, I hope that we will get either a harpy or centaur companion XD (we need some more race variation).

Actually, I hope that hey will keep the ratio of humans down. In DA:O we had one dwarf, one elf, one qunari, and the rest humans (apart from a golem and dog). In DA2 we had 2 elves, 1 dwarf, and the rest humans. So, more non-human companions for DA3 please!!

[fcslmloyb]

I liked Tallis (please don't hurt me!) so i'd be up for her return.

I definitely don't want to see any IGN employees turn up in this one. The bizarre Chobot-thing that appeared in ME3 was terrible. Chobot's voice is irritating enough in the 3 minute videos on IGN, and the Chobot-reaper didn't even look attractive enough to distract my attention from her grating voice.

What i want is more welsh elves. Get Eve Myles back, whether as Merrill or someone new.

[Dessalines]

Yes, bring back Tallis. If for the only reason to have her beat down the Elven fanactic terrorist group that was going off the Quanari and killing civilians in Dragon Age 2. So here is my wish list.
1) Tallis
2) Friend of Red Jenny
3)Cassandra
4)Anorna(Cameo)
5)Chasind
6)Female Dwarf shale(if you did not kill her)
7) Varric
 And for the love of all of Bioware, please no Ohgren!

I am going to add Bethany too. She could be like Garrus in Mass Effect 3, if you let her die, then you have no one to replace her.

Modifié par Dessalines, 07 avril 2012 - 09:39 .

[hussey 92]

Silfren wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

Cullen and Cassandra should definitely be companions and I suspect they will be. Or at least I'm 90% sure Cassandra will be a companion.

And if either of them end up being bi I will be so mad. Seriously bioware should just create straight homosexual characters rather than generalizing all romance options as bisexual.

Cassandra was never established as being straight, I'm not sure about Cullen though since they make it clear he's only into women in dao. I don't agree with them making characters all straight though, that's not fair to other players

Jackel wasnt saying make every character straight, just some of them

It's still not exactly fair to the other players. I don't get why people are so against it, it's not like they're taking anything away from us. Though it would be kind of odd if Cullen was suddenly into guys, unless they pulled an Anders or something

Okay, this is off-topic and I admit I may get mod-slapped for this, but the damn topic keeps coming up because too many people just can't deal with the idea of bisexual love interests.

Origins did NOT "make it clear" that Cullen was only into women.  It wrote the
story that he was interested in the female Warden.  That does NOT mean
he is only into women.  It could easily be that he was simply not
attracted to any men who were around at the time.  Just as it could also be explained for Anders own story that he simply chose to keep his attraction to men to himself during Awakening, because the subject didn't come up and it wasn't anyone else's damned business, OR that he was generally attracted mostly to women, but didn't close himself off from relationships with any men who came along that he found himself attracted to.  Neither of these scenarios is at all far-fetched, and many men and women in real life will attest to this from personal experience.

There is evidence that more people TEND toward bisexuality than either a clear-cut identification as either hetero- or homosexual, that GENERALLY a lot of people identify as exclusively straight because of cultural indoctrination rather than anything biologically inborn.  Sexuality is a continuum and more people than not fall somewhere toward the middle, suggesting a more fluid orientation than is comfortable for many to deal with.

People are against it because they have internalized homophobia, whether they admit it or not.  There is no good reason not to be inclusive to all your players. 

It has nothing to do with homophobia, alot of fans just think it's unrealistic for everyone in the party to be bisexual

[DarkDragon777]

I'll pass on Tallis, thank you. I hope she's gone for good.

[CELL55]

I don't have any problems with the character of Tallis or her voice actress, but the character model took a swan dive straight into the uncanny valley. Ugh.  I hope they remove giraffe necks for elves in DA3.

[Silfren]

Jasmine96 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

Cullen and Cassandra should definitely be companions and I suspect they will be. Or at least I'm 90% sure Cassandra will be a companion.

And if either of them end up being bi I will be so mad. Seriously bioware should just create straight homosexual characters rather than generalizing all romance options as bisexual.

Cassandra was never established as being straight, I'm not sure about Cullen though since they make it clear he's only into women in dao. I don't agree with them making characters all straight though, that's not fair to other players

Jackel wasnt saying make every character straight, just some of them

It's still not exactly fair to the other players. I don't get why people are so against it, it's not like they're taking anything away from us. Though it would be kind of odd if Cullen was suddenly into guys, unless they pulled an Anders or something

Okay, this is off-topic and I admit I may get mod-slapped for this, but the damn topic keeps coming up because too many people just can't deal with the idea of bisexual love interests.

Origins did NOT "make it clear" that Cullen was only into women.  It wrote the story that he was interested in the female Warden.  That does NOT mean he is only into women.  It could easily be that he was simply not attracted to any men who were around at the time.  Just as it could also be explained for Anders own story that he simply chose to keep his attraction to men to himself during Awakening, because the subject didn't come up and it wasn't anyone else's damned business, OR that he was generally attracted mostly to women, but didn't close himself off from relationships with any men who came along that he found himself attracted to.  Neither of these scenarios is at all far-fetched, and many men and women in real life will attest to this from personal experience.

There is evidence that more people TEND toward bisexuality than either a clear-cut identification as either hetero- or homosexual, that GENERALLY a lot of people identify as exclusively straight because of cultural indoctrination rather than anything biologically inborn.  Sexuality is a continuum and more people than not fall somewhere toward the middle, suggesting a more fluid orientation than is comfortable for many to deal with.

People are against it because they have internalized homophobia, whether they admit it or not.  There is no good reason not to be inclusive to all your players. 

Sheesh I was defending the same sex romances, I'll just go cower in this corner now... 

Whoa.  My apologies, while I did address some things you mentioned, my irritation was not directed at you at all, but the fact that people are still spouting the endless refrain of "OMG WHY IS EVERYONE BI OMG OMG."  Bioware did this for the obvious reason of wanting to appeal to as wide a market of their fanbase as possible.  Inclusiveness is something to be admired and encouraged, not whined over by people who have histrionic fits whenever a company decides to acknowledge some other worldview than their own.

[Silfren]

Jasmine96 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

Silfren wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Jasmine96 wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

Cullen and Cassandra should definitely be companions and I suspect they will be. Or at least I'm 90% sure Cassandra will be a companion.

And if either of them end up being bi I will be so mad. Seriously bioware should just create straight homosexual characters rather than generalizing all romance options as bisexual.

Cassandra was never established as being straight, I'm not sure about Cullen though since they make it clear he's only into women in dao. I don't agree with them making characters all straight though, that's not fair to other players

Jackel wasnt saying make every character straight, just some of them

It's still not exactly fair to the other players. I don't get why people are so against it, it's not like they're taking anything away from us. Though it would be kind of odd if Cullen was suddenly into guys, unless they pulled an Anders or something

Okay, this is off-topic and I admit I may get mod-slapped for this, but the damn topic keeps coming up because too many people just can't deal with the idea of bisexual love interests.

Origins did NOT "make it clear" that Cullen was only into women.  It wrote the story that he was interested in the female Warden.  That does NOT mean he is only into women.  It could easily be that he was simply not attracted to any men who were around at the time.  Just as it could also be explained for Anders own story that he simply chose to keep his attraction to men to himself during Awakening, because the subject didn't come up and it wasn't anyone else's damned business, OR that he was generally attracted mostly to women, but didn't close himself off from relationships with any men who came along that he found himself attracted to.  Neither of these scenarios is at all far-fetched, and many men and women in real life will attest to this from personal experience.

There is evidence that more people TEND toward bisexuality than either a clear-cut identification as either hetero- or homosexual, that GENERALLY a lot of people identify as exclusively straight because of cultural indoctrination rather than anything biologically inborn.  Sexuality is a continuum and more people than not fall somewhere toward the middle, suggesting a more fluid orientation than is comfortable for many to deal with.

People are against it because they have internalized homophobia, whether they admit it or not.  There is no good reason not to be inclusive to all your players. 

Sheesh I was defending the same sex romances, I'll just go cower in this corner now... 

Whoa.  My apologies, while I did address some things you mentioned, my irritation was not directed at you at all, but the fact that people are still spouting the endless refrain of "OMG WHY IS EVERYONE BI OMG OMG."  Bioware did this for the obvious reason of wanting to appeal to as wide a market of their fanbase as possible.  Inclusiveness is something to be admired and encouraged, not whined over by people who have histrionic fits whenever a company decides to acknowledge some other worldview than their own.

Oh Okay good! But yes I agree, I had no problem with the same sex romances and don't get why other people did(hence why defended it in the earlier argument) But I didn't mean to imply that Cullen, were he a companion, shouldn't be bi. I was only curious of if they were going to do something like how they did it with Anders(which I had no problem with) or something else, I was only hoping for feedback of possibilities they could do it, which you did name some ways, though you might of thought I was implying he should only stay straight, which I didn't mean to, but i'm very sorry if I came off that way! 

You didn't come across that way, don't apologize.

I've known quite a few people in my life that turned out to be gay, or bi, after years of my assuming they were straight.  Sometimes it was simply that they didn't say anything and I never asked, but just assumed (which was stupid on my part, because one should never assume a default anything).  Others lived as if they were straight for decades of their lives, including getting married to an opposite-sex partner and having kids with them, only to later decide they were gay and re-arrrange their life accordingly.  I've also known a real, flesh-and-blood human being who identified all her life as straight, and for reasons that she still doesn't understand years later, fell in love with a female friend, with whom she is still partnered with today, even though she doesn't find herself attracted to any other women and therefore considers herself "mostly straight, but listen,"  the point of which is simply that, again, sexual orientation is seldom as cut-and-dried as many people think. 

Getting back on topic and trying to avoid further socio-cultural discussion of the real world, It is NOT unreasonable or far-fetched or immersion breaking for a character previously portrayed as straight (or merely assumed to be straight based on their behavior) to "suddenly" turn out to be either gay or bi. There are plausible reasons for this, whatever detractors want to claim to the contrary.  

[Ghidorah14]

Tallis
Cassandra
Cullen

Get those three in, and we're good.

[VampOrchid]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

If I can shank Tallis immediately, sure. Absolutely loathed her.

THIS THIS THIS

Can't agree more...

Loved the webseries...but that was it...

[hussey 92]

I'm so glad to know that so many others hate Tallis to. I remember seeing her the first time and thinking "really? everyone is on board with this?"

Modifié par hussey 92, 08 avril 2012 - 11:11 .

[Ghidorah14]

I've said before and I'll say it again.

I dont get where all the hate comes from >.>;

Some people cry "mary sue," but that's BioWare's fault, not the character's. Tallis wasnt created specifically for DA2. Another victim of "characters changing to fit the story."

Yeah I hate the whole SPOILERS DLC OMG thing too, but that's just another example of "your decisions matter." lol.

[Dessalines]

I actually liked Tallis, but here is the thing we don't have to like all the companions. I hated Alistair, and liked Morrigan. I know peopled that hated Morrigan, and loved Alistair. People who think Ohrgen is best thing that are slice bread, and I do not see the appeal of him. It is cool. That being said, I think Cullen would make interesting companion.

[VampOrchid]

I would like to see Wade as our traveling or whatever, blacksmith or barterer...And Dagna...I don't know why. I just like her.

I want a Mage Dwarf...yeah yeah, I know...but it would be cool!

[Issabeau]

 I desperately want to see Rhys in the next game, he's such a dude.

[FKA_Servo]

I want to see Charade.

[Always Alice]

Maybe not for a companion, but I really want to see the DLC characters, especially Finn.Given the new political landscape, it should be interesting to see his perspective, especially since he didn't appear to have any complaints with the Circle in WH. I loved the Awakening Wardens, and I want to see all of them in some kind of capacity (I was shocked when Oghren didn't get a cameo in DA2). I would like to see Sketch and Silas, especially since we will most likely be dealing with Orlais (plus Silas came in at the last minute so I'm hoping they will do something with them.

Modifié par Always Alice, 09 avril 2012 - 01:09 .

[Knight Commander]

Cullen, Stroud, Quanari, Seeker, and any one dragon age origin companion.
Btw don't make all the males bi please I don't care if you make a cool one like Zevran, but no more i can't stand every time getting hit on by Anders or Fenris no means no.

[Uccio]

No Tallis, No Cassandra. Both would have very short lives in my company.

[Lynata]

motomotogirl wrote...
Cullen as a rogue templar; he finally breaks away from the templars to pursue his own path.

Ech, I think that'd only turn him into Alistair 2.0
I'd definitively be in favor of a real templar companion for once.

As for completely new characters ... an Avvar might be interesting, too. Maybe the devs could recycle some of the notes they had for the canned barbarian origin in DA:O this way. Could be a male or female warrior travelling the world on some quest that intertwines with whatever plot the player is following.

An Orlesian chevalier is a concept that could be a lot of fun, too.