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katana2009

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Just reached Mountain Top last night. Blew the horn, had just enough time for a couple of nice screenshots of the dragon before he completely hosed my party. Reload. Pwned again. Reload....you get the idea.

My party are all around lvl 16. Morrigan seems to freeze him ok, but melee dmg is just not happening as he burns us to cinders faster than she can heal us. His knockdowns aren't helping either. Is there a tic-tac for beating him, or am I supposed to go elsewhere first before taking him on? :huh:Gnash gnash gnash....

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Zweijsters

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Need m0ar mages!

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katana2009

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Zweijsters wrote...

Need m0ar mages!


Not too sure my WoW buddies can log in to help m8:lol:

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I beat him quite easily at level 17 so I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. I had a balanced party, myself (tank), Leliana, Wynne, Morrigan.



Though, in my fight he flew up into a corner and basically farted on the party all day long until a sword accidently went up there and he died...



All I can suggest is fire-resist armour, shield wall with experitise = prevent knock downs on the tank and just hack away. Oh and tactics to use potions because Wynne's healings rarely keep up (i duo'd Flemeth with my tank and Wynne incidently because of this, it's easier for Wynne to keep one alive in those sort of fights than everyone...)

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Cheiron the Centaur

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From the Missing Manual:



"Nobody needs to fight him right there, yet there are dozens of posts on the forums of people that think they are stuck because there is a dragon sleeping nearby on the rock…"


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I encountered the High dragon at lvl 14 and ripped it apart. all you need is a healer(or two). A well-equipped tank and tons of heal-pots and mana-pots.

The Most important thing is the right positioning. So that only the Tank/ the meeles wil get damaged throughout the fight. If you call the dragon, it will always land on your main-char. Turn off the follow-mode and postition your people widely-spread over the area (the tank near the main-char). The first hits on the dragon should be from your tank in order to generate aggro, then buff your group, debuff the dragon activate your specials. In order to keep the tank alive heal early enough AND use the different types of heal-pots (because they don't share the same cooldown).

Congrats, you've killed the beast!

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Well first off use salves that increase your fire resistance. make sure your weapons have runes etc in them not flame.

but its also about micro managing. Do you not have wynne I find having a healer is nice. But make sure your fighters are attacking from the sides of the dragons and always make sure your constantly re positioning them. if you can move in morrigan with cone of cold.

I usually have to melee in there and then 2 people plugging away with ranged.

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katana2009

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RVallant wrote...


I beat him quite easily at level 17 so I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. I had a balanced party, myself (tank), Leliana, Wynne, Morrigan.

Though, in my fight he flew up into a corner and basically farted on the party all day long until a sword accidently went up there and he died...

All I can suggest is fire-resist armour, shield wall with experitise = prevent knock downs on the tank and just hack away. Oh and tactics to use potions because Wynne's healings rarely keep up (i duo'd Flemeth with my tank and Wynne incidently because of this, it's easier for Wynne to keep one alive in those sort of fights than everyone...)


Shame I killed Wynne, for being 'old' and 'haggish':lol:

Both my tanks(main + Alistair have shield wall)
Hmm maybe the empty 'healing' toolbar slots and not using fire resist ain't helping:P

Cheers bud, I'll have another bash at him tnite...and maybe just tiptoe past if my keyboard gets too much abuse:crying:

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An arcane warrior tank makes this a very very easy fight, especially if you sub spirit healer. Also, bring Morrigan along for her cone of cold. The other two slots? Shale's nice, as is Sten. Or Alistair if you've specced him for twohander.

Modifié par Dreogan, 03 décembre 2009 - 11:29 .


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Hehehe, i fought it like two times with Leliana, Alistair and Morrigan. I tried to fight it with melee weapons most of the time and that did not do it.

Switching all members to ranged weapons does the trick because that keeps the dragon from wounding more than one member at a time, so keeping up with healing is much easier.

Also keep in mind to wear the Drakeskin and Dragonskin armour and use potions against fire/heat.

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Common sense says that you should not allow your warriors to engage in melee against such a monster. Switch to bows and use terrain to your advantage. The dragon cannot engage you in melee if you keep moving or find an area where the dragon cannot land. If you then only have to deal with the fire damage then you know what to do; anything you can in order to increase your fire resist.

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its easy enough to tank it if you come prepared.



the main tank needs the highest defense possible. this is one of the few circumstances where Shield Defense is actually better than Shield Wall. the dragon hits so hard and with so much force that 5 extra armor wont protect you as well as 10 extra defense. best to not get hit at all if possible.



for the things that you can't dodge outright you can still protect yourself. for the fire attacks try to raise your fire resist. alot of equipment does this. but if you really want to just use Warmth Balms.



for the stun roar, the knockdown wing buffet, and the dreaded Bite and chew til your dead, you need Physical Resist to avoid those attacks. best way to get very high Physical Resist is by stacking Hale Runes on your weapon. a 3 slot longsword can stack up Hale runes providing something like +50 physical resist if you've got the best runes. that should help quite a bit.



once you've got a tank that can survive the fight is very easy.



the tank should get the dragon turned facing away from your party. everyone else stands behind the dragon and attacks with the safest stuff they have. tank uses Taunt whenever the cooldown is up to hold aggro as best they can. everyone else watches their DPS to make sure they don't pull aggro off the tank. melee classes might wanna switch to bows to prevent getting mule kicked by the dragon.



once you've got the dragon tanking routine down the fight is easy. it might take a little while, the dragon has lots of health. hope you brought a decent supply of health poultices and lyrium potions.

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Zarenthar

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Whoever killed Wynne and didn't reload is not sane.

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Meleth75

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Gratz for killing the best companion in the game btw

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Chragen

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Absolutely easiest and cheapest way to beating the dragons is just to have a tank with taunt, a healer then 2 range dps. Doesn't need to any good dps since as long as your tank survives and your healer has mana it's not a issue.

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Altharas

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Force Field, tank taunts, slap forcefield on him = gg

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MikeMonger

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SPREAD OUT.

One tank.  Switch the rest to bows.

Heal pots.

It's not a difficult battle at all.  Just long.  I did it first try with my mage, Wynn, Leliana, and Shale.

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Zarenthar wrote...

Whoever killed Wynne and didn't reload is not sane.


I killed her on all my playthroughs.

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Wynn is the best healer u can get, so i suggest a restart with her... gl

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JackDresden

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I did it on my third try.

Don't try to melee with more than one character use missile weapons and magic and one melee with threaten to keep it busy. Try and surround it from a distance. Keep healing the melee and hitting it with misile weapons and magic.

Close up most of you will be stuned 90% of the time. Oh and you can always put a force field can round the melee in an emergency.

Modifié par JackDresden, 03 décembre 2009 - 02:57 .


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CID-78

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it was morrigan that killed the dragon for me. shale as a statue with forcefield, sten and my own rogue trying to hit it with ranged weapon, which they failed almost completly with.not sure if they ever did any damage. it was morrigan and her staff all the way. It took quite a while but not hard since morrigan regen mana in the same pace as the forcefield use it up. if the dragon had something in that brain of it's i would have been toast.

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You want to get the thing tanked. And you want to reduce damage to your party. The latter is accomplished by having your dps/healers at range and spread out from each other. As for the tanking, having taunt is a big deal. When the dragon starts to get squirrely taunt him. If the dragon is flipping out at the start, give the tank a few seconds.



It's WoW, basically.

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I agree, once you get the idea, it's not that difficult, just a long fight. So you'll need lots of stamina/mana. Not even one of the hardest fights in the game.

Like people have already stated, using potions, fire resistance, a single tank, ranged weapons and lots of heals you'll finish its firebreathing, cattle chewing, man menacing ungodly existence for good.

On my first playthrough I came to the fight pretty unprepared, so it became one of those rewarding fights when my main character thrusted her last arrow in the thing, killing it single-handedly while my both tanks were out cold and healer out of mana and potions. ^_^

Modifié par Baalaaxa, 03 décembre 2009 - 03:16 .


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metatrans

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i guess all those Onyxia runs have paid off for us WoW veterans. we all seem to know the "standard method" for dragon slaying. works as well in DA:O as anywhere else. 

Modifié par metatrans, 03 décembre 2009 - 03:25 .


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katana2009

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Cheers for all the non flame help peeps...having a lvl80 Hunter in WoW should of made it obvious to me that ranged DPS was the way to go with this beasty. I guess the fact it completely flattened my party on first two attempts made I panik:unsure:, as previous boss battles I'd got through alright.


Just hoping my main warrior has the taunt ability now...:whistle: