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Bioware Twitter on ending not being changed

Débuté par Taritu , avril 03 2012 09:01

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#51
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:47

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digby69 wrote...

by not changing the ending they have pandered to a minority of whiners

no, they are supporting "The Silent Majority". the majority of game players do ot view or access forums of any kind. ever wonder why Origin and similar programs cause you to be online while playing? its so they can recieve gameplay feedback by scanning the things you do in game. this way they gain feedback not only from the vocal minority who scour the forums, but also the silent majority whio probably have never even accessed these forums.

its the way feedback is sent and recieved nowadays. by the majority playing seconds, third, and even fourth playthroughs it sends them data that people are highly enjoying the game.

the people complaining on these forums are the vocal minority, the data they are recieveing is making them keep the endings by supporting the silent majority, which is shown by people doing multiple playthroughs

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:49

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digby69 wrote...

by not changing the ending they have pandered to a minority of whiners


Indeed

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:50

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arial wrote...

digby69 wrote...

by not changing the ending they have pandered to a minority of whiners

no, they are supporting "The Silent Majority".
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the people complaining on these forums are the vocal minority, the data they are recieveing is making them keep the endings by supporting the silent majority, which is shown by people doing multiple playthroughs


Look at it this way Either way if end-changers are a minority it makes the end
supporters an even smaller minority, End supporters care enough to voice
themselves, so do changers, but people who simply are mildly (un)satisfied and don't care enough to say anything probably do not oppose any future changes and will probably accept them, they are not in
your crowd so don't claim them. Those who do actually care have voiced
themselves and revealed pro-enders to be the smallest minority.

Modifié par slyguy200, 03 avril 2012 - 09:54 .

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:51

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_symphony wrote...

I already made up my mind that nothing will change. Whatever DLC they release for explain the nosense of the ending is going to suck so better not going to bother with ME3.



No it will not suck it will just cost.Do you think the Co-Funders would stab their blue eyed baby with a weak DLC "conclusion"? No my friend it will not suck they just have to wait for your nerves to calm down so you'll be comfortable to cough up some more cash.They're not in this business for love.Caching? Sorry for the black rapper stereotype.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:54

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Wise Men wrote...

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We don't want the ending to be changed. We want the indoctrination theory to be truu.


I find this post interesting.  The beauty of the ending is that it calls for imagination and speculation.  I almost don't want them to "confirm" if it is "true or not".

Just let me draw my own conclusions.  At the same time, I acknowledge that some gamers prefer to have it all laid out.  And that's cool too.  So, maybe the DLC will do this for them. 


This ^^

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:56

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ending doesn't need to be changed. Adding on to the ending to fill in the blanks is perfectly acceptable.


This. 

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:58

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arial wrote...

digby69 wrote...

by not changing the ending they have pandered to a minority of whiners

no, they are supporting "The Silent Majority". the majority of game players do ot view or access forums of any kind. ever wonder why Origin and similar programs cause you to be online while playing? its so they can recieve gameplay feedback by scanning the things you do in game. this way they gain feedback not only from the vocal minority who scour the forums, but also the silent majority whio probably have never even accessed these forums.

its the way feedback is sent and recieved nowadays. by the majority playing seconds, third, and even fourth playthroughs it sends them data that people are highly enjoying the game.

the people complaining on these forums are the vocal minority, the data they are recieveing is making them keep the endings by supporting the silent majority, which is shown by people doing multiple playthroughs


Nice tautology there, buddy.
You're assuming entirely too much to support any argument. You're assuming that Bioware is just listening to the majority of players in not changing the ending. That's an uneducated guess given that you don't have any of the data you're referencing. You're assuming that Bioware WOULD listen to the players over their shareholders. That's counter to what businesses are about: making money. All the data that's actually available to us(again, you are not privvy to any data that the rest of us not) shows that a majority of players is unhappy with the ending. You can say "Well that's just the people who come here" and write those numbers off. But there were polls on Facebook, Twitter and various gaming sites that all showed the same thing: an overwhelming majority of voters disliked the ending.
And even if was a "vocal minority" that had a problem with it, Bioware wasn't honest about what the ending would be. So even if you don't agree that we're a majority, it is a principled stand.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 09:58

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I honestly didn't want them to change the ending changed. I wanted them to expand or use it to their advantage. I want Bioware to prove to me how good they are by taking a charred piece of coal and turning it into a diamond.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:01

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As I've stated in other threads, if this is the stance Bioware takes come their announcement I simply will know they can't produce quality stories anymore, and that's why I buy their games. They've struck out multiple times now for me, and I have a backlog of books to buy for stories that cost a lot less.

There are a lot of other games I like more for game play. Mass Effect had a lot of things that scream cut corners, lazy, or rushed to me, and the ending was just the biggest glaring flaw. If they don't want to fix it, more power to them. I don't want to own their products. I've already lost all interest in playing the mass effect series, which is disappointing. I can't even be bothered to keep my EMS up just in case with one multiplayer a day give or take, and I was trying to hold that out at least till after the weekend.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:03

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"More content" = $15 DLCs of 1 mission per DLC. Thanks Bioware... not.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:04

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Why would they change it? Bioware's all about pandering to minorities lately.


You better change your woridng right now before hurricane ****storm hits.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:13

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xsdob wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Why would they change it? Bioware's all about pandering to minorities lately.


You better change your woridng right now before hurricane ****storm hits.


He is refering to pro-enders because they are the minority. so all he will get is slightly trolled by them.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:15

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 "the ppl complaining are, mostly, whiny and ignorant"

Oh the irony!

In fact you need to ignore the plotholes in order to enjoy the ending. That sounds slightly more ignorant to me. 

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 03 avril 2012 - 10:15 .

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:18

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digby69 wrote...

by not changing the ending they have pandered to a minority of whiners


Pretty much this. I'm fairly certain everyone around here would prefer a rehauled ending...

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:19

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So they are going to fix the endings but people still aren't pleased? Seriously where did this notion of an entire revamp of the ending come from?

You can't just completely changed an ending, that's not fair to those who like the endings but surely just adding content and clarification would please people?!

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:19

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This was supposed to be expected, they won't change anything,
I guess they'll just try to explain the last minutes of the game with the 'new content'. Well, try to.

We'll just have to wait 'n see.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:19

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For how much Ive enjoyed the Franchise, Ive stopped playing ME3 fast.

And wont replay the first two ever because of the ending for now.

No better ending, no more Mass Effect for me
If theres a new one, I'll see

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:22

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Okay.

First off.

What exactly is considered "changing" the ending?

What is considered "adding more content"?

Why are the two mutually exclusive?

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:22

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Documental wrote...

So they are going to fix the endings but people still aren't pleased? Seriously where did this notion of an entire revamp of the ending come from?

You can't just completely changed an ending, that's not fair to those who like the endings but surely just adding content and clarification would please people?!


You wouldn't have to download it. No one would force you to download it and replay the game.
And they couldn't clarify the ending to make it make sense because the entire thing is nonsensical and introduces about a dozen plotholes.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:23

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BioWare has lied before.
Actually, they've gotten very good at it.
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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:25

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dpg05c wrote...

Okay.

First off.

What exactly is considered "changing" the ending?

What is considered "adding more content"?

Why are the two mutually exclusive?


They the same, but the effect will be different, as will the repairarations made to the fans

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:27

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slyguy200 wrote...

dpg05c wrote...

Okay.

First off.

What exactly is considered "changing" the ending?

What is considered "adding more content"?

Why are the two mutually exclusive?


They the same, but the effect will be different, as will the repairarations made to the fans

They wont mess up twice they cant and EA knows it theyl let Bioware do what is needed to be done

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:30

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TRISTAN WERBE wrote...
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]They wont mess up twice they cant and EA knows it theyl let Bioware do what is needed to be done

If EA has anything to say then they will probably charge $10 for it.

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:31

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slyguy200 wrote...

TRISTAN WERBE wrote...
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]They wont mess up twice they cant and EA knows it theyl let Bioware do what is needed to be done

If EA has anything to say then they will probably charge $10 for it.

well yeah there not Bungie giving out free stuff in Halo 3 like herioc map pack

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Posté 03 avril 2012 - 10:32

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TRISTAN WERBE wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

dpg05c wrote...

Okay.

First off.

What exactly is considered "changing" the ending?

What is considered "adding more content"?

Why are the two mutually exclusive?


They the same, but the effect will be different, as will the repairarations made to the fans

They wont mess up twice they cant and EA knows it theyl let Bioware do what is needed to be done


Basically the point I'm making here is...

Isn't adding to the ending changing it in a way?

Isn't adding more context and explanation for just what the heck is going on in the ending changing it?



Yeah.   I'd love a golden ending.    I want my femshep to settle down with Liara and have little blue babies together.  But uh... from what I've seen, that's not what the Take back Mass Effect movement's about.

What, exactly is wanted from that?  

Because if it'll be unhappy with a more explained ending, I'm not sure TBME will be satisfied with anything BW can do at this point.
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