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[Mordak55]

Was late to the Mass Effect PArty, being a new XBox owner, So I got Mass Effect 1 & 2 at a good price, but I was so happy with them I ordered the Collectors Edition of Mass Effect 3 (waste of money the collectors edition, nice tin though), but after the way that the game was finished, i.e. NO CHOICE ALLOWED. I would never pre order a full price game from them again, why bother if your only gonna get half a game. The single player game was far to short, and the ending just stuck on any old way, and then to have the cheek to say buy more DLC. Also the game puts you back to before the Cerberius Base attack after the credits aren't you already dead by then WHAT?

[Han Shot First]

The problem I have with 'clarification' is that it probably means these elements will still be present:


1. Schizophrenic writing: From that first conversation with Tali about the Geth in ME1 to the peaceful resolution of the Rannoch conflict, to the development of EDI into a person rather than thing, who was willing to sacrifice her own life for organics if necessary, the writers explored a theme that in the end synthetics weren't all that different from us. They explored a theme for three games that peaceful coexistance with synthetics was possible, only to reverse course completely and without warning in the last five minutes of the game. That is bad writing. If synthetics couldn't peacefully coexist with organics that theme should have been explored from the first game, rather than being introduced suddenly and without any rhyme or reason in the last few minutes of the series.

2. The Red Ending: It will probably still require you to betray and kill EDI and the Geth. The one ending where Shepard actually succeeds in his mission to destroy the Reapers, requires him to betray some of his own allies and friends. Besides being an unsatisfactory ending for that reason alone, see the above for additional reasons why it is a bad idea.

3. The Green Ending: Besides the fact that it literally involves space magic and does not make any sense, I find it offensive that this was obviously intended to be the good ending. That's right --- the good ending (according to Bioware) is one where Reapers live and Shepard annihilates all organic life to save it. Were the Turians or Krogan or Asari your favorite species? Gone forever, they're all cyborgs now.

4. The star child's seemingly supernatural origins: Hopefully clarification involves making this awful & out of place character some form of AI or Reaper avatar.

5. The Mass Effect relays going boom: Galactic civilization as we know it still collapses.

6. The sword fleet still gets annihilated or dies of starvation on Earth.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 03 avril 2012 - 11:22 .

[AlanC9]

What do you mean by NO choice, Mordak?

[Lobinic]

HAHAHAHAHA its end is not changed, it is a masterpiece of stupidity

[Cadence of the Planes]

slyguy200 wrote...

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Why would they change it? Bioware's all about pandering to minorities lately.

You implying that those who wish to change the ending outnumber those who wish to extend it doesn't actually make it fact. Nice try though. 

Well, honestly they do, it is a sort of facade that many of them use.

Using the word "honestly" doesn't make it fact either, we'd need some kind of scientific poll to make a definitive statement. Please don't refer me to the not-so-scientific online polls - you know which ones I'm talking about.

[AlanC9]

Han Shot First wrote...
1. Schizophrenic writing: From that first conversation with Tali about the Geth in ME1 to the peaceful resolution of the Rannoch conflict, to the development of EDI into a person rather than thing, who was willing to sacrifice her own life for organics if necessary, the writers explored a theme that in the end synthetics weren't all that different from us. They explored a theme for three games that peaceful coexistance with synthetics was possible, only to reverse course completely and without warning in the last five minutes of the game. That is bad writing. If synthetics couldn't peacefully coexist with organics that theme should have been explored from the first game, rather than being introduced suddenly and without any rhyme or reason in the last few minutes of the series.

Well, technically, "synthetics weren't all that different from us " is the point of the green ending, which makes it literally true. Though I am not attempting to defend the writing by mentioning this.

I agree on point 2. Point 3 depends on whether you think being a cyborg is a bad thing or not. If you think it is, you've still got the blue ending.

5. The Mass Effect relays going boom: Galactic civilization as we know it still collapses.

Yep. We've got a new era.

6. The sword fleet still gets annihilated or dies of starvation on Earth.

I don't see why they'd starve. The quarians, fortunately, have their liveships with them. I doubt there are enough turians to overload that resource, since many quarians stayed behind on their homeworld

[spacehamsterZH]

It's kind of interesting that the tweet apparently said "your ending", not "the ending". Somehow that leaves me hoping against hope that this means there WILL be a changed ending, it'll just be optional. As in, if you like SpaceBrat's Magical Plothole Machine, just don't install it.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ending doesn't need to be changed. Adding on to the ending to fill in the blanks is perfectly acceptable.

This, but a happy option needs to be added too.  I don't wanna be stuck with a bunch of endings where the mass relays blow up, shepard most likely dies, and the normandy gets stranded.

Releasing more content sounds slightly more promising than "only clarifying" though, soI gotta give credit where credit is due.

HOWEVER, only cautious optimism is warranted at this point.

[BeefoTheBold]

This may be one of the few times in recent memory where I rejoice in the knowledge you can't really believe a word that comes out of Bioware's mouth recently.

I'm very much hoping that they change the endings.

[DrwEddy]

Tu mortuus ad me, Bioware
In Latin, it means "You're dead to me, BioWare".
You guys should use this phrase more often in case should BioWare fails to their consumers agian.

[Stalker]

Whoho, if this is true they have officially signed the contract to turn their back on all fans and accept the fact that they won't sell any future product to them. It's sad, really.

[MICHELLE7]

After the majority of the gaming reviewers praised the game they have no reason to think the ending was bad so why would they change it. The only thing I got from previous comments anyway was something about clarification....more than likely the addition of deleted scenes or something (or that's my thinking).

[_symphony]

That the ending needs clarification speaks volumes of how wrong it is.

[Getorex]

No correction to the end = emptying out of these forums fairly quickly (my prediction).

Tumbleweeds and cobwebs.

[SeanDrake]

Well I guess the real ending will be that the DLC sales bomb due to it all being kinda pointless unless they change the ending that makes pretty much no sense and lack any narrative coherency.
EA then throws them under the bus like it did westwood, bullfrog, mythic and the rest.
90% of the staff end up unemployed and the rest spend all Biowares remaining days making facebook games till they quit.

I hope this is not the case but those who do not learn from history get to re-live it.

[cgvhjb]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ending doesn't need to be changed. Adding on to the ending to fill in the blanks is perfectly acceptable.

I disagree, the ending is terrible in pretty much ever conceivable way and needs to redone... completely. Right now they're trying to fix a fundamentally flawed ending and that's like trying to add garnish to crap to make it paletable, no matter what they do it will still be crap.

Bioware needs to swallow their pride, get off their high horses and show that they have some integrity left and provide a new ending on par with the level of quality in the Tuchanka or Rannoch missions.

Also they wouldn't be setitng a precendent if they did this, Francois Lapikas from Square Enix apologized for the boss fights in Deus Ex.

http://www.pcgamer.c...re-truly-sorry/

MICHELLE7 wrote...

After the majority of the gaming
reviewers praised the game they have no reason to think the ending was
bad so why would they change it. The only thing I got from previous
comments anyway was something about clarification....more than likely
the addition of deleted scenes or something (or that's my
thinking).

Actually most gaming websites acknowledge that the ending is terrible, they just choose to give it good metascores because of the other 99.5% of the game.

Modifié par cgvhjb, 04 avril 2012 - 12:01 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

I don't see why they'd starve. The quarians, fortunately, have their liveships with them. I doubt there are enough turians to overload that resource, since many quarians stayed behind on their homeworld

Those liveships won't last forever. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I remember it being said that the Flotilla sustains itself by mining. In fact, they've built up quite the reputation from their strip-mining shenanigans alone. Earth doesn't have those types of resources. And what little the turians and quarians have between them certainly won't last until the galaxy finds another feasible means of FTL travel.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Getorex wrote...

No correction to the end = emptying out of these forums fairly quickly (my prediction).

Tumbleweeds and cobwebs.

Lol nope. People will stay here if only to b*tch BioWare out.

[Alexraptor1]

Unless something truly exceptional is announced on April 6th, I will be watching the expanded ending on YouTube.

[brgillespie]

I must be the only person in the world who doesn't have a clue how to decipher Twitter messages.

[TRISTAN WERBE]

Ah yes "New Endings" EA has dismissed this claim

[kbct]

Ray's statement and all the tweets (at least three now) point to the same thing - the ending will only be clarified. It sounds like the colors and god-child will still be in the game. The clarified content will probably be free.

Still, I hope EA/BioWare comes to its senses between now and the next announcement. If they are listening to us, they realize that most want a new ending, not a clarified ending.

[Alexraptor1]

The only thing that can save them on the present path is to make IT a reality.

[Mordak55]

The ending is a pre picked option, pick red destroy the galaxy, pick Blue destroy the galaxy, pick Green destroy the galaxy. That is lazy writing, and not in context with the game, Mass Effect was supposed to be about how "your" shepherd decided to do things, "my" Shepherd would have told the Star Child to go F*** himself. and found an option D

Modifié par Mordak55, 04 avril 2012 - 12:24 .