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[PrimeOfValor]

I don't mind the ending not changing, but I want was closure and yes, add a happy ending. Because my shepard would denied any of the outcomes then this is when the indoctrination theory comes in, it just more sense that way. PS most remaining fans would probably (including myself) expect to upcoming dlc to free.

[GigaTheToast]

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Humph, obviously your feeble brain couldn't comprehend the idea that Bioware cheaped-out on the ending. They specifically designed it to be a trap for lesser intellects, tricking them into thinking there is some depth to their cardboard carbon copy cookie cutter climax.

Transparent trolling is transparent, if you where the majority you wouldn't be outnumbered. Math takes you places. 

Modifié par GigaTheToast, 03 avril 2012 - 09:33 .

[Dosh Gunnington]

Don't worry guys we haven't explained the plot holes

[Disciple888]

guise didn't u know? ME3 is the new stanford-binet. if you like the endings, you qualify for MENSA and law school!

[Reptilian Rob]

Dosh Gunnington wrote...

Don't worry guys we haven't explained the plot holes

Space magic duct tape. 

[Gexora]

How about a very simple, not-rewrite solution? If your EMS is like REALLY high (which should be possible to do without MP), you can just tell Starchild to SCREW OFF and watch your fleets vaporize the Reapers while he is butthurting over in the corner. All problems solved!

[cerberus1701]

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Translation:

"Those who did not like the ending are less intelligent than those of us who liked it as is."

Is that an echo? I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before on these forums....

Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

It's not even remotely creative. it's a poor attempt at existentialism to quickly wrap up a series that's never been about existentialism or been rife with subtext.

If you think that's "creative" or "deep?" Well, you're not very free-thinking...or creative.

[Saberchic]

Turran wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Well, strictly speaking. The ending need not be changed. It can remain, as an ending.

JUST NOT *THE* ENDING.

This.

I would be happy with the current ending if it was explained (In nice, full detail), answered questions and showed an ending scene which reflected my decisions throughout the games.


Honestly, I just want it to make sense, answer everything and show my choices. 

I feel the exact same way.

There's no replay value whatsoever, too many plot holes, and no closure. Bioware said they weren't going to shoe-horn us into one ending, that our choices mattered and we'd see the effects of them, and that they wouldn't leave us with more questions than answers like Lost. I just want them to live up to their word.

A continuation of what follows our actions isn't too much to ask for.

[blacqout]

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Translation:

"Those who did not like the ending are less intelligent than those of us who liked it as is."

Is that an echo? I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before on these forums....

Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

Wow.

I'm taller than you by the way. Nope, no idea what your height is. But I am. I just know it.

See if you get the connection.

I wasn't specifically talking about you personally. I'm sure there are outliers in both camps, but generally, me and my kind are more creative sorts.

And i'm half an inch lower than the national average height (UK) so your chances of being taller are good. More creative, not so much.

[Gerudan]

I think by now it gets more and more obvious, that they won't change anything and that a little extension at the end will be all we are getting.

[bluewolv1970]

CYRAX470 wrote...

I like how it says "don't worry"

As if the past month consisted of a bunch of people BEGGING Bioware not to change the ending.

What universe am I in?

yes like the masses have been clamoring to keep the endings, they can now rest easy thankfully - just when you think Bioware cannot become more of a joke with how disconnected they are with their fans, a new twitter post emerges and they manage to...

[Khajiit Jzargo]

@masseffect Don't fix the ending, and you won't be selling any content to me. Nor am I the only one.
35m Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

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@iwelsh Thanks for letting us know!
34m Ian Welsh Ian Welsh ‏ @iwelsh

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@masseffect LOL. You've got style, person handling the twitter account. *salute!*
30m Mass Effect Mass Effect ‏ @masseffect

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@iwelsh You should see the top hots and monocles we've got on.


Twitter. Bioware this is just messed up

[DarthRic]

Modifié par DarthRic, 04 avril 2012 - 04:54 .

[blacqout]

cerberus1701 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Translation:

"Those who did not like the ending are less intelligent than those of us who liked it as is."

Is that an echo? I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before on these forums....

Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

It's not even remotely creative. it's a poor attempt at existentialism to quickly wrap up a series that's never been about existentialism or been rife with subtext.

If you think that's "creative" or "deep?" Well, you're not very free-thinking...or creative.

I am not precisely applauding the ending or painting it as some bastion of creativity within the gaming industry.

I'm saying that more creative sorts are better able to make sense of it.

[hammerfan]

Sadly, I wasn't worried about that.

[FemmeShep]

I think we need to just accept that the ending is what it is, and they will only be clarifying it.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

CYRAX470 wrote...

I like how it says "don't worry"

As if the past month consisted of a bunch of people BEGGING Bioware not to change the ending.

What universe am I in?

The one where Bioware's devs have such a huge ego, that they can't see past their own faults, and refuse to admit when they made a mistake. 


See, many of the "good" developers listen to their customers. Bethesda, Valve, Obsidian, Mojang. 

Seems Bioware is taking a nosedive. I can't mod my ME3 game, I am required to launch it through the horrible and lag inducing Orgin, required multiplayer to get a "Good" ending...

Bethesda, Valve, Obsidian, and Mojang are all okay with modding. Bethesda has even released their construction tools for their games, and openly say that they're okay with players modding the game to their hearts content.

When Obsidian was asked by a few modders if the The Sith Lords Restoration Pack could use some of their junk data to reconstruct some cut content, they said sure, and sent it right along.

Bethesda, when FO3 ended, and players didn't like the ending, they released a huge expansion that let players keep playing. This took a while, but they went out and said "We understand some people don't like the ending. That's well and fine, and we can respect that. We'll throw you a DLC in a few months that lets you carry on with your story" 

When Obsidian got feedback in FO:NV that people wanted to give the Courier more of a history, they worked up to a massive, cheap pack that explained a LOT of his significant backstory. In addition, all of the DLCs were linked to eachother. The DLCs also had FAR more value then what ME3 released. I was amazing by the comparison of value between, say, Dead Money, and Javik. 

Dead Money was accepted to be the worst DLC of FO:NV. And it STILL has better value then Javik.

I ask, what has Bioware done like that? The only fanservice DLC I've seen from them is LOTSB. The rest of them were just kind of meh.

[Joolazoo]

Myrmedus wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

why would you ever ever ever put up anything like this without a source. It should be locked on principle. damn lazy posters

even though I have already saw it. IDT, bring it onnnnnn

I'm sorry, I wish I could believe it, but I don't.

I see the evidence for indoctrination, I really do, and it's totally feasible within the narrative but...I don't think this is it. From experience dealing with companies, I don't see this as being anything more than some 5 minute content that they think will make the ending work - essentially polishing a turd.

if you polish a turd enough it looks like chocolate ice cream.

[blacqout]

GigaTheToast wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Humph, obviously your feeble brain couldn't comprehend the idea that Bioware cheaped-out on the ending. They specifically designed it to be a trap for lesser intellects, tricking them into thinking there is some depth to their cardboard carbon copy cookie cutter climax.

Transparent trolling is transparent, if you where the majority you wouldn't be outnumbered. Math takes you places. 

See, this is what i'm talking about. Your reliance on hard data (opinion polls - which have been manipulated by the Retake movement, by the way) is extremely telling. You are unable to take social factors or even basic human nature into account.

It stands to reason that i, a supporter of the endings, would be a minority on a forum such as this. Those with an axe to grind are always more vocal.

[Raanz]

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

hehe everytime I read a reply from blacquot, I think of "The Emperor's New Clothes".

[Gerudan]

I don't even understand how you can be AGAINST new endings. If you liked the old endings, just don't download the new ones (if they would ever come out), where is the problem?

[BadlyBrowned]

DarthRic wrote...

You know not changing current endings does not mean not adding new possibilities, for example telling the catalyst to take his choices and [censored]

The very existence of the Star Child is my biggest issue with the ending.

[Myrmedus]

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Translation:

"Those who did not like the ending are less intelligent than those of us who liked it as is."

Is that an echo? I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before on these forums....

Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

Wow.

I'm taller than you by the way. Nope, no idea what your height is. But I am. I just know it.

See if you get the connection.

I wasn't specifically talking about you personally. I'm sure there are outliers in both camps, but generally, me and my kind are more creative sorts.

And i'm half an inch lower than the national average height (UK) so your chances of being taller are good. More creative, not so much.

Well, even on a general perspective, I'm not really sure where the connection or correlation is? There's not necessarily any tie between those who like or dislike the ending and their creativity...not really sure where that would come from.

Personally, as someone who digitally paints up a storm in my spare time (and has been contracted to produce digital works) one could and would likely call me creative. I don't consider myself an outlier in the "rage against the endings" camp though: I simply think that those in that camp don't necessarily want to a "do it yourself" ending to the trilogy is all.

Oh, and I think we're the same height.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 03 avril 2012 - 09:42 .

[FS3D]

blacqout wrote...

cerberus1701 wrote...

blacqout wrote...

Myrmedus wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Translation:

"Those who did not like the ending are less intelligent than those of us who liked it as is."

Is that an echo? I could've sworn I've heard that somewhere before on these forums....

Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

It's not even remotely creative. it's a poor attempt at existentialism to quickly wrap up a series that's never been about existentialism or been rife with subtext.

If you think that's "creative" or "deep?" Well, you're not very free-thinking...or creative.

I am not precisely applauding the ending or painting it as some bastion of creativity within the gaming industry.

I'm saying that more creative sorts are better able to make sense of it.

Guys... Can we please stop feeding the troll now?

I mean, if we don't feed these trolls, they won't be able to continue trolling us with this... Garbage.

Let's deal with the actual problem here, which is the endings, and not keep feeding these trolls.

[lillitheris]

blacqout wrote...
I am not precisely applauding the ending or painting it as some bastion of creativity within the gaming industry.

I'm saying that more creative sorts are better able to make sense of it.

I wrote some rude words here, but deleted them.

We understand what they were trying to say. We just think it's dumb, and furthermore poorly executed.

It's hilarious that you consider yourself smarter than everyone else just because you can fill in the plot holes with some implausible explanations. News to you: everyone else can, too. We just expect better.