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[Kawamura]

Gerudan wrote...

I don't even understand how you can be AGAINST new endings. If you liked the old endings, just don't download the new ones (if they would ever come out), where is the problem?

I have no idea. 

Maybe they're afraid that it takes resources from something else? The line I often hear is that it's the company "giving in". 

I wasn't upset when there was DLC released for FO3 that had the Lone Wanderer live. I just didn't buy it because I liked having them die then.

[Creston918]

killnoob wrote...

looks like Bioware is still living in the delusion that "people love the ending of ME3"...

No, they're not. They never were.

The stark and sad truth is that Bioware DOESN'T CARE whether you liked their ending or not. They've become so full of themselves that they are supremely convinced they are always right, and their "fans" *scoffs* are always wrong.

Like their arrogant BS when they were all "Well, if YOU want to summarize the endings are Blue, Green and Red, that's the label YOU slap on it! We didn't do that!"

Even though their ending videos are )*#&$#)*$#)* TITLED "LondonBlue, LondonGreen, LondonRed" etc.

[Myrmedus]

blacqout wrote...

GigaTheToast wrote...

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

Humph, obviously your feeble brain couldn't comprehend the idea that Bioware cheaped-out on the ending. They specifically designed it to be a trap for lesser intellects, tricking them into thinking there is some depth to their cardboard carbon copy cookie cutter climax.

Transparent trolling is transparent, if you where the majority you wouldn't be outnumbered. Math takes you places. 

See, this is what i'm talking about. Your reliance on hard data (opinion polls - which have been manipulated by the Retake movement, by the way) is extremely telling. You are unable to take social factors or even basic human nature into account.

It stands to reason that i, a supporter of the endings, would be a minority on a forum such as this. Those with an axe to grind are always more vocal.

In truth, noone can say who is the majority or the minority, it is completely impossible to tell.

And to be honest, it doesn't even really matter. Enough individuals are upset with the current ending, and the production of a new ending is not mutually exclusive with the existing ending.

Thus, the capacity exists for both camps to be happy.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 03 avril 2012 - 09:45 .

[Atraiyu Wrynn]

Iwillbeback wrote...

It doesn't matter how much you polish a turd, it is still going to be brown.

Mythbusters proved you can polish a turd, but it still smells like...

[RolandX9]

The Angry One wrote...

Well, strictly speaking. The ending need not be changed. It can remain, as an ending.

JUST NOT *THE* ENDING.

+1. There are actually people who seem to enjoy this ending, and hey, whatever. Some folks really liked joining Cerberus in 2, and I didn't want them to get completely screwed in 3. Just because that went the way I wanted for my playthrough doesn't mean I don't feel bad for Renegade Shepards who weren't able to take over Cerberus/slap sense into TIM/reprogram Kai Leng. As long as the rest of us get a decent ending, I don't see a need to remove one. (Still needs to be fixed, though.)

[DarthRic]

Modifié par DarthRic, 04 avril 2012 - 04:54 .

[Verit]

Well, it's already clear the current endings will stay. The question is whether or not new content will include additional endings. I'm really hoping for the latter because I'm really not interested in "clarification" for their current endings.

Modifié par -Draikin-, 03 avril 2012 - 09:46 .

[Myrmedus]

DarthRic wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

You know not changing current endings does not mean not adding new possibilities, for example telling the catalyst to take his choices and [censored]

The very existence of the Star Child is my biggest issue with the ending.

What if it turns out the star child is really harbinger trying to trick you if you refuse him (NOT the indoc theory, just a trick hologram by harbinger after the cruicible gave him new options, to get shepard to accept him more readily)

I think unfortunately anyone who doesn't like Star Child might just have to lump that one.

[Creston918]

blacqout wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

Oh, good, because that's what all the retake mass effect protesting was about.

Not every fan is a part of your little tea party. In fact, most aren't. BioWare are right to focus on them, but it is nice of them to throw you a bone, in the form of some added clarification.

Extrapolation can be hard, so it'll be good to have BW to hold your hands while you contemplate the finale as ancient man contemplated fire, i'm sure.

You should apply for a job at EAware. You've gotten their arrogant "We're better than you" attitude down PAT.

Modifié par Creston918, 03 avril 2012 - 09:56 .

[Gerudan]

blacqout wrote...

It stands to reason that i, a supporter of the endings, would be a minority on a forum such as this. Those with an axe to grind are always more vocal.

That there is such a massiv reaction shows, that there is something wrong with the game or am I the only one, who doesn't remember something like this for ME2 or any other Bioware game? 

Ifso many people don't like it, ther has to be something wrong. Sure, a lot of people might not care, because they don't like the games as much and therefore don't care. You have to remeber that the people, who are vocal about the endings are so, because they LOVE the Mass Effect Series, why else would they care? 

[Dranks]

All I know is I hated the endings. One of my best friends who actually is an artist (and a good, creative one at that) hated them even more. In fact she seemed insulted when the whole artistic integrity thing came up.

[WhiteKnyght]

DarthRic wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

You know not changing current endings does not mean not adding new possibilities, for example telling the catalyst to take his choices and [censored]

The very existence of the Star Child is my biggest issue with the ending.

What if it turns out the star child is really harbinger trying to trick you if you refuse him (NOT the indoc theory, just a trick hologram by harbinger after the cruicible gave him new options, to get shepard to accept him more readily)

Indoctrination Theory works on the idea that choosing to destroy the Reapers is how Shepard resists.

But! If you have less than 1600 EMS, destroy is the only option the star child gives you. Directly contradicting the theory.

[Kawamura]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

You know not changing current endings does not mean not adding new possibilities, for example telling the catalyst to take his choices and [censored]

The very existence of the Star Child is my biggest issue with the ending.

What if it turns out the star child is really harbinger trying to trick you if you refuse him (NOT the indoc theory, just a trick hologram by harbinger after the cruicible gave him new options, to get shepard to accept him more readily)

Indoctrination Theory works on the idea that choosing to destroy the Reapers is how Shepard resists.

But! If you have less than 1600 EMS, destroy is the only option the star child gives you. Directly contradicting the theory.

I thought the answer to that was: at that point, the Reapers are so clearly the winners that they see no need to actually offer choices

[HairyMadDog1010]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

BadlyBrowned wrote...

DarthRic wrote...

You know not changing current endings does not mean not adding new possibilities, for example telling the catalyst to take his choices and [censored]

The very existence of the Star Child is my biggest issue with the ending.

What if it turns out the star child is really harbinger trying to trick you if you refuse him (NOT the indoc theory, just a trick hologram by harbinger after the cruicible gave him new options, to get shepard to accept him more readily)

Indoctrination Theory works on the idea that choosing to destroy the Reapers is how Shepard resists.

But! If you have less than 1600 EMS, destroy is the only option the star child gives you. Directly contradicting the theory.

IF you saved the collector base you have to do controll.

[Taritu]

https://twitter.com/...278525194186752

[IronSabbath88]

If the IT wasn't a 95% chance at this point, then I don't know what that 5% is.

[DarthRic]

Modifié par DarthRic, 04 avril 2012 - 04:54 .

[FatalX7.0]

[devSin]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

But! If you have less than 1600 EMS, destroy is the only option the star child gives you. Directly contradicting the theory.

If you saved the Collector base in ME2, doesn't it default to only giving you control?

Meaning it makes even less sense, since you'd have to argue two things with the same set of data (either they don't bother to even try to indoctrinate you, or they just indoctrinate you outright because... because why?).

[lordofdogtown19]

 It said "releasing more content" and "your ending wont be changed" 

Maybe this is wishful thinking but maybe they're gonna add an option to tell the starbrat its an idiot and refuse. 

Modifié par lordofdogtown19, 03 avril 2012 - 09:55 .

[GigaTheToast]

blacqout wrote...

See, this is what i'm talking about. Your reliance on hard data (opinion polls - which have been manipulated by the Retake movement, by the way) is extremely telling. You are unable to take social factors or even basic human nature into account.

It stands to reason that i, a supporter of the endings, would be a minority on a forum such as this. Those with an axe to grind are always more vocal.

Or perhaps someone who dislikes the retake movement would go to a forum almost unanimously supportive of it and goat people into ridiculous arguments using faulty logic and an unrealistically condescending attitude with the express purpose of either trying to ****** them off or where down their enthusiasm. This is a technique called "trolling" and it is most commonly used among people who are against a certain mindset but lack the support of others to oppose it.

You see, the offending party, or "troll", wouldn't need to resort to such behavior if there was any kind of legitimacy to his or her stance on the subject at hand. He or she is simply there to provoke people, draw attention to themselves, and of course, for teh lulz.

[GBJ13]

I really hope they're smart enough to realize this is a disaster. A year from now, Mass Effect 3 will be "that game with an awful ending." That's how it'll be remembered. When people do polls on the worse ending in video games, it'll win for the next decade.

Ever social media site is dominated by people who dislike the ending. There are nearly 60k people on FB saying they want a new ending. There are less than 1k supporting it.

I had a friend who worked on the Dean campaign. He remembers the day after Iowa when Dean was the butt of so many jokes. He didn't realize what had happened then, but now he realizes what just happened.

After Blizzard just punked Bioware on April 1st, you think they'd realize they had to change ship. What tends to happen in these things is that people involved bunker down, turn critics into enemies, and watch themselves implode.

I could be wrong, but it's harder to doubt.

[Creston918]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

 It said "releasing more content" and "your ending wont be changed" 

Maybe this is wishful thinking but maybe they're gonna add an option to tell the starbrat its an idiot and refuse. 

That would be FANTASTIC. Add a few minutes of seeing what happens in the Galaxy afterwards, and it'd make for a great ending, gates destroyed or not.

[Lancane]

"And in other news, BioWare and parent company Electronic Arts have had a rough day. First at Pax East in Boston, after announcing that the ending would not be fixed only explained a little bit better with a software patch and announcing their next DLC, the crowed booed and heckled the software giants. After learning of this, Electronic Arts stock took a dramatic nosedive before the market day's closing."

And I would laugh my *** off...kharma is a, you know what! 

Modifié par Lancane, 03 avril 2012 - 10:00 .