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[Kreid]

Let us be reasonable here for a minute, BioWare are NOT going to rewrite the ending because a) there are people fine with it and don't want it completely changed (minority or not their opinion is as relevant as anyone else's DLC isn't free, the new content will probably be premium DLC and not everyone will want to pay for the "true2 ending that changes a whole section of the game.

We should be hoping that new endings sequences are made available if at all, anything else is just not going to happen.

Modifié par Creid-X, 03 avril 2012 - 10:01 .

[FemmeShep]

I just wanted to throw this out there:

First off, I never wanted the ending changed because I thought it sucked. As a fan, I can accept that writers can drop the ball when ending a story or writing a plot. I wanted the ending changed to reflect the promises that were made. This to me, is the most upsetting aspect to this.

Another point. I think if they are going to keep the ending that they originally wrote, they really need to retell the story of the Crucible and explain it so it makes sense. At the very least they could do this. But even then, that doesn't really address the main issues people had with the ending.

Modifié par FemmeShep, 03 avril 2012 - 10:07 .

[goose2989]

CYRAX470 wrote...

I like how it says "don't worry"

As if the past month consisted of a bunch of people BEGGING Bioware not to change the ending.

What universe am I in?

Also OP, if you want to be taken seriously, always list a source

Modifié par goose2989, 03 avril 2012 - 10:02 .

[Iakus]

No new ending options=no more money from me.

The Lazarus Project couldn't bring the current endings back to life as far as I'm concerned.

[OrumLeader]

GBJ13 wrote...

I really hope they're smart enough to realize this is a disaster. A year from now, Mass Effect 3 will be "that game with an awful ending." That's how it'll be remembered. When people do polls on the worse ending in video games, it'll win for the next decade.

Ever social media site is dominated by people who dislike the ending. There are nearly 60k people on FB saying they want a new ending. There are less than 1k supporting it.

I had a friend who worked on the Dean campaign. He remembers the day after Iowa when Dean was the butt of so many jokes. He didn't realize what had happened then, but now he realizes what just happened.

After Blizzard just punked Bioware on April 1st, you think they'd realize they had to change ship. What tends to happen in these things is that people involved bunker down, turn critics into enemies, and watch themselves implode.

I could be wrong, but it's harder to doubt.

I tend to agree.  I think they are going down with the ship.  I just watched Stanly Woo lock a thread because someone posted the same pic to the twitter feed posted a few post before this one.  The thread was title something along the lines of "its going to be tough at pax" - a few seconds after it was locked it was gone.   I wonder how long this thread will stay unlocked.

[Montana]

razor150 wrote...

Bioware to it's fans "We're polishing that turd till it shines!"

And they're most likely doing it with more Space magic

[Chuvvy]

Not sure if it's been posted in the thread, but there's your source.

[Gerudan]

GBJ13 wrote...

After Blizzard just punked Bioware on April 1st, you think they'd realize they had to change ship. What tends to happen in these things is that people involved bunker down, turn critics into enemies, and watch themselves implode.

I could be wrong, but it's harder to doubt.

Yeah, that is probably how it works. Bioware sees the critics of the end as whining trolls, instead of paying customers, that only complain because the love the rest of the series.

[nitefyre410]

OrumLeader wrote...

GBJ13 wrote...

I really hope they're smart enough to realize this is a disaster. A year from now, Mass Effect 3 will be "that game with an awful ending." That's how it'll be remembered. When people do polls on the worse ending in video games, it'll win for the next decade.

Ever social media site is dominated by people who dislike the ending. There are nearly 60k people on FB saying they want a new ending. There are less than 1k supporting it.

I had a friend who worked on the Dean campaign. He remembers the day after Iowa when Dean was the butt of so many jokes. He didn't realize what had happened then, but now he realizes what just happened.

After Blizzard just punked Bioware on April 1st, you think they'd realize they had to change ship. What tends to happen in these things is that people involved bunker down, turn critics into enemies, and watch themselves implode.

I could be wrong, but it's harder to doubt.

I tend to agree.  I think they are going down with the ship.  I just watched Stanly Woo lock a thread because someone posted the same pic to the twitter feed posted a few post before this one.  The thread was title something along the lines of "its going to be tough at pax" - a few seconds after it was locked it was gone.   I wonder how long this thread will stay unlocked.

 

Unless something amazing happen and some divine change of heart and mind. This may be  Bioware's death spiral. They are going down with ship when there is no need for the ship the go  down. The only reason that they are damning themselves is stupid foolish, stubborn, aggorance and pride.  

[Mandemon]

 

Slidell505 wrote...



Not sure if it's been posted in the thread, but there's your source.

 

Skull Bearer wrote...

Who the hell is worrying here? We're HOPING, you bloody idiots.

QFT

Modifié par Mandemon, 03 avril 2012 - 10:13 .

[zartan88]

I have to admit that I did like the ending as is (played all three!) however, I feel the best way to cater for everyone is to add another choice at the end so everybody is happy.

I (speaking for myself) would not want the endings changed - my Paragon Shep died the hero he always was!

[yoshibb]

More content is fine if it means more endings. Like for instance the ability to tell the god kid that his choices are ridiculous and forget the crucible. What I don't want is clarification of these three endings and that's it. This really doesn't tell us anything.

[dallicant]

I will say it's very unlikely that we'll see entirely new endings. Hopefully the clarifications will help.

[spz123]

http://twitter.com/#...246218093670400

Basically I'd take anything stated on the ME twitter with a large pinch of salt and wait for a proper announcement as seems like they're being deliberately vague and misleading.

[Jat371]

Slidell505 wrote...



Not sure if it's been posted in the thread, but there's your source.

[Sesshaku]

The Woldan wrote...

Bioware is listening!


But only to themselves....

Or the 2% that have the nerv to say the endings rocked..

[Garlador]

GBJ13 wrote...

I really hope they're smart enough to realize this is a disaster. A year from now, Mass Effect 3 will be "that game with an awful ending." That's how it'll be remembered. When people do polls on the worse ending in video games, it'll win for the next decade.

Why wait a year? ME3 has already received universal mockery for it's ending (that greatly overshadows any of the positives it has done). When you can actually make a game that many were going "Game of the Year!" and nuke that feeling to Virmire dust in the final 10 minutes, going from GOTY to "I've been enraged for three weeks straight", you know the ending has become one of the worst endings... ever... in ANY medium.

[squee365]

Slidell505 wrote...



Not sure if it's been posted in the thread, but there's your source.

Also: https://twitter.com/...278525194186752 Its a very real tweet.

[HungyBaby]

What I don't want is clarification of these three endings and that's it. This really doesn't tell us anything.

Agreed, though I would bet on exactly that happening. Hopefully we'll be proven wrong.

[aliengmr1]

My question to BioWare would be; is the ending going to be completely untouched and the new content just added to the rest of the game? Or will content be added to the endings?

If that would be answered, I might feel better. Right now, though it seems we were ignored. I would have thought fans worthy of a straight up "yes" or "no" answer. Clearly I thought wrong. Which is why my question wouldn't answered.

Truth is BW hasn't been listening from the start. They could have said weeks ago what exactly their plan was minus details and instead strung us along. I can't imagine it would be extremely hard to just read these forums and come up with 20 questions get them answered and post them.

Well I'm gonna live up to my part of the bargain. I'm done.

[webhead921]

To be fair, there is a significant chunk of people on twitter saying that they liked the endings. Still, i think it's bad business for bioware to completely ignore such a large portion of its devoted fanbase, especially when that fanbase has the support of mainstream press (i.e. forbes)

[yahtzo]

Its either Indoc theory or text clarifications that nobody will actually like.

[Turkeysock]

I side with FemmeShep, I didn't want to change the endings just to change it, I wanted to change the endings because of what Bioware promised we would get. It's ridiculous how horrible the ending is, but if they had gone and done what they were stating they were going to do in interviews, I wouldn't have an issue.

Instead, we're getting this horrible ending that contradicts everything Bioware said they were going to do, not to mention lore.

As for mod's closing down threads, they seem to be putting the hammer down more and more often to any thread that has a post that takes shots at them or is just stupid talk. I don't remember the forums being so totalitarian back in ME2.

[Faded-Myth]

blacqout wrote...
Not necessarily more intelligent, but certainly more creative and free thinking. It's not your fault that your brains work differently.

blacqout wrote...
I am not precisely applauding the ending or painting it as some bastion of creativity within the gaming industry.

I'm saying that more creative sorts are better able to make sense of it.

I don't think it's really fair to portray all people who hate the ending as being uncreative. I'm a 3D environment modeler in my spare time, and I work with a variety of intelligent people who are all creative themselves. Some of us our more visually creative, others more intelectually. Most of my collegues hated the ending, but this certainly doesn't make then uncreative neanderthals.

For me, it's not a case of not being able to understand an open, abstract ending, it's that I don't want one in a Mass Effect game. If I want abstract or metaphorical, or even just something with plenty of subtext, then I'll play a game like Silent Hill, which is all about subtext, both in terms of plot and with the protagonist's motives. Mass Effect has always been intelligently written, with a lot of complex themes, but the overall premise is a simple one. The ending is a sudden, jarring change that personally I feel is badly written and presented, but it's not that I don't grasp that, it's because I don't want that. I got plenty of that from Battlestar Galactica, and it worked for that series.

I think a lot of people are going to have personal preferences, and not everyone is going to want something they normally like in everything they watch or play.

Modifié par Faded-Myth, 03 avril 2012 - 10:22 .

[Femlob]

"PAX East - Boston, MA April 6-8, 2012"